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| 00:12:32 | <HannaM> | hasdoc... -_- ominous .. sounds like an amalgamation of "Hasso" (typical german name for dogs) and dog =) |
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| 00:14:38 | <monochrom> | But it's texdoc then s/tex/has/ |
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| 00:15:04 | <wrunt> | HannaM: if you think that's ominous, check out https://hackage.haskell.org/package/haskdogs |
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| 00:16:03 | <HannaM> | people working with functional programming languages have either too much time on their hands or too much fun.. |
| 00:16:07 | <HannaM> | or both |
| 00:16:50 | <HannaM> | which is a good thing .. |
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| 01:49:15 | <wroathe> | In the Typing Haskell in Haskell paper the author states that "the syntax of Haskell requires class arguments to be of the form v t1 ... tn, where v is a type variable, and t1,...,tn are types (and n ³ 0).". Isn't this the opposite of what Haskell actually requires? Or am I misunderstanding this. |
| 01:49:25 | <wroathe> | "(All instance types must be of the form (T a1 ... an) where a1 ... an are *distinct type variables*, and each type variable appears at most once in the instance head." is the typical error I see when compiling |
| 01:49:42 | <wroathe> | Here's the relevant section (end of the second paragraph) https://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~mpj/thih/TypingHaskellInHaskell.html#sec-ctxtred |
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| 03:26:55 | <hololeap> | what does n ³ 0 mean |
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| 03:34:51 | <johnw> | maerwald: what is the current recommended AE library? |
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| 03:36:11 | <wroathe> | hololeap: That was a copy/paste error. It's n >= 0 |
| 03:36:19 | <davean> | cccccclknknvedgfneknrijbbrktjdchdbvcuegthilh |
| 03:36:30 | <johnw> | ooh, Yubikey user! |
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| 03:36:43 | <johnw> | at work such strings are a running joke |
| 03:37:04 | <davean> | Yah, its annoying, I don't use that part of it, but disabling it ... |
| 03:37:16 | <johnw> | disabling it is actually very easy; want the steps? |
| 03:37:32 | <davean> | I had issues disabling it making touch-to-sign not work |
| 03:37:35 | <johnw> | https://gist.github.com/0472119c67eaf701799b99b4db235d43 |
| 03:37:38 | <davean> | the part I actually use |
| 03:37:39 | <johnw> | huh |
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| 03:37:57 | <johnw> | I stopped using touch-to-sign, I make too many Git commits per day for that |
| 03:40:50 | <davean> | well I was going to ask if theres a particular reason Solo isn't exposed in 'base', just ghc-prim and if there was a reason for that decision |
| 03:44:26 | <johnw> | I was wondering what the current "state of the art" is for Haskell algebraic effect libraries |
| 03:44:35 | <johnw> | I really like using them, but the landscape seems to change very often |
| 03:50:26 | <edwardk> | johnw: clearly the answer is mtl |
| 03:50:27 | <johnw> | sounds like fused-effects for the time being? |
| 03:50:33 | <johnw> | hah, edwardk |
| 03:50:38 | <johnw> | what's up! |
| 03:50:56 | <edwardk> | a fair bit. we should catch up |
| 03:51:24 | <johnw> | we absolutely should; a visit is in order. according to my wife I should be safest to travel come mid-May |
| 03:51:29 | <johnw> | I plan on heading out your way |
| 03:51:51 | <edwardk> | amy and i are out in the middle of the desert at the moment. berkeley was feeling a little crowded |
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| 03:52:31 | <edwardk> | got far enough away from it all that we don't need to deal with neighbors til after we get fully vaccinated, etc. |
| 03:53:32 | <edwardk> | have been generally hanging out and live-coding over on https://discord.gg/rHg4AJaB when I get free time |
| 03:54:06 | <edwardk> | working up a bunch of code for linear logic, etc. |
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| 04:01:05 | <johnw> | linear logic in what sense? |
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| 04:24:44 | <edwardk> | johnw: been playing with https://github.com/ekmett/linear-logic/tree/plugin |
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| 04:25:18 | <edwardk> | johnw: focus so far is on using linear-haskell to bootstrap a stronger linear logic and then see if i can't make plugins, etc. that make it nicer to work with |
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| 04:26:27 | <edwardk> | johnw: https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/mgve3s/linear_logic_in_ghc_9/gsxbysh/ is a short writeup on the 'how' |
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| 04:30:55 | <wroathe> | edwardk: I tried tuning into your stream one time, and it was so far beyond me that I decided my time would be better served by turning back to whatever mediocre thing I was working on at time time, but I've wondered how someone with your understanding of type theory would go about architecting a "regular" application that a user might use |
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| 04:38:15 | <edwardk> | i tend to just write whatever piece is in front of me with whatever laws I can come up with that hopefully have a little more motivation than me making them up on the spot and stitch parts together until i have an application |
| 04:38:48 | <MarcelineVQ> | when eddie said he didn't like his teddy you knew he was a no good kid |
| 04:38:49 | <edwardk> | i work with typeclasses named after mathematics ideas explicitly because i lack enough imagination to make up good laws |
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| 05:19:24 | <zzz> | can someone sum up the difference between Arrow and (->) for me please? |
| 05:23:36 | <zzz> | or point me somewhere useful? |
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| 05:26:45 | <davean> | zzz: (->) is a specific thing, Arrow is a set of laws and properties, which (->) happens to satisy, but other things not like (->) persay also do. |
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| 05:34:16 | <zzz> | so Arrow is more general |
| 05:35:25 | <zzz> | i was wondering why (->) is a Profunctor |
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| 05:35:48 | <davean> | I mean -> is also Num and Monad, and I'm not seeing you ask what the difference between Num and -> are |
| 05:37:47 | <davean> | (a horrible, no good, very bad instance but whatever) |
| 05:37:53 | <zzz> | if (->) is a Monad and Arrow is a Monad, I would ask what's the difference between (->) and Arrow |
| 05:39:18 | <davean> | Whats the difference between Ord and Num? |
| 05:39:35 | <davean> | And the fact that Int is both of them makes them the same tihng I guess? |
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| 05:40:10 | <zzz> | i think we are misunderstanding eachother |
| 05:40:11 | <davean> | I'd try to explain better but I don't understand your thinking here enough to make a useful comment |
| 05:40:14 | <gnumonic> | I dunno that "why is X a Y" (where Y is a typeclass) is ever a question with an interesting answer. X is always a Y because you can define an instance that satisfies the laws... |
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| 05:41:38 | <davean> | gnumonic: right. It doesn't really imply any relation other than that the law hold - and it certainly doesn't imply that that being true is interesting |
| 05:42:11 | <davean> | They exist at different levels and one is an observation about another |
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| 05:43:17 | <expipiplus1[m]> | hi all |
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| 05:47:02 | <juri_> | hi more all. |
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| 05:48:32 | <zzz> | right, let e rephrase that. (->) is an Arrow and all Arrows are Profunctors. Is there a need for (->) to be firectly declared a Profunctor instance, if we already have it for Arrows? |
| 05:49:15 | <zzz> | s/e/me | s/fireclty/directly |
| 05:49:17 | <davean> | Profunctor isn't a superclass of arrow |
| 05:50:40 | <zzz> | hmm |
| 05:53:12 | <zzz> | i see |
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| 05:53:18 | <zzz> | thank you |
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| 05:54:36 | <davean> | Direct questions like that are so much easier :) |
| 05:55:29 | <juri_> | davean: why does my code suck? :) |
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| 05:57:07 | <davean> | juri_: You haven't gotten the right people to provide patches yet. |
| 05:58:28 | <juri_> | wow. you do like direct questions. :) |
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| 06:07:11 | <davean> | juri_: also, lets be honest, code is just inherently sorta ugly by default. |
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| 06:27:30 | <edwardk> | zzz: even if it was a superclass of arrow, you'd have to define the instance. you can't just say instance Arrow a => Profunctor a where ... -- that instance means that _all_ profunctors are defined this way. |
| 06:28:51 | <edwardk> | zzz: that said we could have used "deriving via WrappedArrow (->) instance Profunctor (->)" -- to get it 'for free', except for the fact that profunctor contains a couple of extra efficiency oriented unsafe methods |
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| 10:39:51 | <zzz> | edwardk: i get it now. thank you |
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| 10:46:11 | <ij> | TIL: if you write "class C x where empty :: x y", then x's kind will be inferred and there is no explicit mention. I realized, because Graph from fgl doesn't say what "a" and "b" are https://hackage.haskell.org/package/fgl-5.7.0.3/docs/Data-Graph-Inductive-Graph.html#t:Graph |
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| 10:47:09 | <ij> | but it seems like they're just node/edge label parameters |
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| 12:58:06 | <joel135> | someone here wrote https://bradparker.com/posts/lets-learn-about-lenses |
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| 12:58:47 | <joel135> | I am not sure how to use the "[json| {" syntax. I get a syntax error. |
| 12:59:02 | <joel135> | I have imported import Data.Aeson.Lens. |
| 13:01:15 | <hpc> | add {-# LANGUAGE XQuasiQuotes #-} to the start of your file |
| 13:01:25 | <hpc> | that post neglects to mention that you need it |
| 13:01:31 | <joel135> | ok thanks |
| 13:01:32 | <hpc> | er, minus the X there |
| 13:04:34 | <joel135> | now it says "Not in scope: ‘json’" and "import Data.Aeson" gives me a type error |
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| 13:05:29 | <joel135> | (https://paste.tomsmeding.com/SeadJwVS) |
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| 13:09:28 | <hpc> | i am not sure where that json definition comes from, but the type error is because of https://hackage.haskell.org/package/aeson-1.5.6.0/docs/Data-Aeson.html#v:json not being a quasiquoter |
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| 13:10:46 | <hpc> | perhaps you can define someJson differently, using what you currently have in scope |
| 13:10:53 | <hpc> | it won't be as terse, but it'll compile |
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| 13:11:34 | <joel135> | I wish I could remember who in this channel wrote it. |
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| 13:26:53 | <joel135> | oh he has the same nick |
| 13:27:05 | <joel135> | bradparker: could you help me out? |
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| 15:14:16 | <maerwald> | Uniaika: https://discourse.haskell.org/t/reviving-the-abstract-filepath-proposal-afpp-in-user-space/2344/1 |
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| 16:17:16 | <Uniaika> | maerwald: thanks |
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| 17:18:07 | <hololeap> | can anyone recommend a good beginner's resource for learning type theory? |
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| 17:20:39 | <opqdonut> | I enjoyed TaPL, but I guess it might be a bit old-fashioned now |
| 17:20:48 | <opqdonut> | https://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/tapl/ |
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| 17:30:01 | <Uniaika> | hololeap: Type Theory and Formal Proof: An Introduction |
| 17:30:14 | <Uniaika> | by Nedeperlt and Geuvers |
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| 17:39:55 | <nut> | Do people put a quickcheck section in their cabal file for testing? |
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| 17:40:23 | <nut> | How do peole usually integrate QuickCheck in their cabal project? |
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| 17:40:56 | <Clint> | i usually just have one testsuite section that does everything |
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| 17:42:06 | <nut> | do you mean a testsuite section in the cabal file? |
| 17:42:10 | <nut> | Clint: |
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| 17:42:52 | <Clint> | nut: yes |
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| 18:09:30 | <epta> | is there any tutorial how to migrate from network-2.* to -3.*? For instance, where is `connectTo` now? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/network-2.2.1.6/docs/Network.html#v%3AconnectTo |
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| 18:13:55 | <maerwald> | epta: `connect` does not work? |
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| 18:18:33 | <epta> | maerwald: didn't try, but the signature is slightly different, at least it doesn't return a Handle |
| 18:19:13 | <maerwald> | the only big change is that you need network-bsd now for some functionality, but connectTo was removed before that I believe |
| 18:19:18 | <maerwald> | changelog doesn't mention it |
| 18:19:29 | <maerwald> | you rarely see migration guides in haskell |
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| 18:20:51 | <d34df00d> | Hi! |
| 18:21:00 | <maerwald> | your best bet is to look at reverse dependencies and check their git log |
| 18:21:26 | <maerwald> | https://packdeps.haskellers.com/reverse/network |
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| 18:22:07 | <d34df00d> | Let's say I want to write a function that has two effects: modifying a state carrying a BitVec and possibly failing to produce a value of type Word16. |
| 18:22:12 | <maerwald> | but digging that up might take more time than studying the new API |
| 18:22:24 | <d34df00d> | What's the best way to nicely express in types that the state modification happens only if the value has been produced? |
| 18:22:52 | <d34df00d> | `(MonadState BitVec m, Alternative m) => m Word16` (or MonadFail instead of Alternative, etc) doesn't say that. |
| 18:23:40 | <d34df00d> | I could probably write (MonadState BitVec m, Alternative f) => f (m Word16), but that looks kinda strange. |
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| 18:25:24 | <Lycurgus> | migration guides are part of the culture of ease |
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| 18:25:54 | <Lycurgus> | and accomodation. hs is teH hard |
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| 18:27:05 | <Lycurgus> | suggested adaptation: consider the bar raised |
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| 18:30:47 | <nut> | https://pastebin.com/jHrM629y |
| 18:31:03 | <nut> | Could anyone check why my test suite only runs one single test? |
| 18:31:16 | <nut> | This is the first time i use quickcheck and hspec |
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| 18:32:07 | <maerwald> | Lycurgus: what? :D |
| 18:32:48 | <Lycurgus> | maerwald, say what one more time;nut, what did you expect? |
| 18:32:54 | <DigitalKiwi> | sometimes i wonder why some of you are even here |
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| 18:33:35 | <nut> | Lycurgus: I thought by default it generate 100 random strings to my functions |
| 18:33:54 | <nut> | Lycurgus: what I saw after running cabal test, it pass only one test |
| 18:34:11 | <nut> | 1 of 1 test suites (1 of 1 test cases) passed. |
| 18:34:21 | <DigitalKiwi> | wow pastebin.com has gotten far worse than i remember |
| 18:34:23 | <maerwald> | cabal test is annoying, because it hides output |
| 18:34:29 | <maerwald> | run the test binary directly |
| 18:34:48 | <nut> | how to run the test binary? |
| 18:34:51 | <Lycurgus> | disappointed quickcheck expectations is a common trope here |
| 18:35:25 | <maerwald> | nut: cabal run test-suite -- sometime works |
| 18:35:25 | <Lycurgus> | ahead of exception handling I think |
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| 18:36:12 | <sclv> | i run the binary directly just by running the compiled executable in new-dist/... |
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| 18:37:17 | <nut> | maerwald: it works but still runs only 1 example |
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| 18:38:24 | <nut> | How to make hspec/quickcheck generate more random tests? |
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| 18:41:18 | <maerwald> | cabal run test-suite -- --help |
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| 18:44:16 | <nut> | cabal run test-quickcheck -- -a 10 |
| 18:44:21 | <nut> | but still only one test |
| 18:44:25 | <nut> | maerwald: |
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| 18:44:55 | <nut> | sorry |
| 18:44:58 | <maerwald> | well, how many tests did you write |
| 18:45:00 | <maerwald> | :D |
| 18:45:01 | <nut> | maerwald: sorry it worked |
| 18:45:09 | <nut> | thanks a lot! |
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| 18:54:37 | <hololeap> | d34df00d: doesn't MonadState already say that? if `s` hasn't been produced, how can `s -> m (a, s)` be called? |
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| 18:55:31 | <d34df00d> | hololeap: the problem here is on the returned value (on the `a`, basically). |
| 18:55:55 | <d34df00d> | I want to differentiate between s -> (Maybe a, s) and Maybe (s -> (a, s)) |
| 18:56:21 | <d34df00d> | I guess both are instances of `MonadState s m, Alternative m => m a` |
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| 18:57:18 | <hololeap> | MonadState s m => MaybeT m a -- ? |
| 18:57:47 | <d34df00d> | Hmm. |
| 18:57:51 | <d34df00d> | That might work, I guess. |
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| 18:58:12 | <d34df00d> | Yea, that looks reasonable, thanks! |
| 18:58:15 | <myme> | I'm wondering how, if possible, to define an option using optparse-applicative which is optional on two levels: It doesn't have to be present (so use `optional`), and if it's present, you don't have to provide it with a value (using e.g. defaults). Ex: `bin [--option [value]]` |
| 18:58:32 | <hololeap> | that expands to `s -> m (Maybe a, s)` |
| 18:58:35 | <hololeap> | np |
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| 18:59:29 | <d34df00d> | On a somewhat related note, can I do better than myFoo = state $ \st -> runST $ flip runStateT st $ runMaybeT $ do ... ? |
| 18:59:43 | <d34df00d> | All those runStateT and runMaybeT just to allow for runST look a bit ugly, IMO. |
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| 19:07:41 | <hololeap> | % type MyMonad st s = MaybeT (StateT st (ST s)) |
| 19:07:42 | <yahb> | hololeap: ; <interactive>:116:21: error:; Not in scope: type constructor or class `MaybeT'; Perhaps you meant `Maybe' (imported from Prelude) |
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| 19:08:01 | <hololeap> | % import Control.Monad.Trans.Maybe |
| 19:08:01 | <yahb> | hololeap: |
| 19:08:05 | <hololeap> | % type MyMonad st s = MaybeT (StateT st (ST s)) |
| 19:08:05 | <yahb> | hololeap: |
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| 19:09:32 | <hololeap> | % runMyMonad :: st -> (forall s. MyMonad st s a) -> (Maybe a, st) ; runMyMonad st x = runST $ flip runStateT st $ runMaybeT x |
| 19:09:32 | <yahb> | hololeap: |
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| 19:11:05 | <hololeap> | d34df00d: i think you can write functions in MyMonad normally and then use runMyMonad when you're ready to unpack all of it |
| 19:11:31 | <hololeap> | in other words, i don't think `state` is necessary |
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| 19:19:59 | <maerwald> | myme: you can have [--option=value | --option] |
| 19:20:04 | <maerwald> | via Alternative |
| 19:20:45 | <maerwald> | optional (option valueParter <|> flag Nothing (Just defaultValue)) |
| 19:20:52 | <maerwald> | I just tried |
| 19:21:05 | <maerwald> | this is pseudo-code obviously |
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| 19:22:13 | <maerwald> | myme: but it confuses the parser apparently |
| 19:23:17 | <myme> | maerwald: That was what I was trying right now. I didn't manage to get past that either option requires a value, or flag doesn't want one. |
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| 19:24:23 | <maerwald> | it would probably be less of a problem if only --foo=value was allowed and `--foo value` not |
| 19:24:33 | <maerwald> | then the `=` disambiguates |
| 19:24:46 | <myme> | Yeah. To make it more concrete, I'm adding a "--color" option to an app. |
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| 19:25:05 | <maerwald> | consider a magic value, like --color=default |
| 19:25:19 | <d34df00d> | hololeap: yea, that's better, thankss! |
| 19:26:12 | <maerwald> | myme: or even more cocky: [--colors | --color=value] |
| 19:26:18 | <myme> | Sucks to type though ;) It's for a simple CLI app I'd typically append to a command line with `| bin [opts]`. So less typing, the better. I think I'll be going for two options then, or one option and one clag. |
| 19:26:23 | <myme> | Yeah, exactly. |
| 19:26:29 | <myme> | Thanks though maerwald. |
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| 19:26:49 | <maerwald> | chances are your users will never read --help anyway :D |
| 19:27:03 | <myme> | chances are *I'm* the only user :D |
| 19:27:15 | <maerwald> | then I'd go with funny names |
| 19:27:52 | <maerwald> | also: color vs colour |
| 19:27:56 | <maerwald> | easy hack |
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| 20:50:09 | <d34df00d> | Is there a library that provides unboxed multidimensional vectors? |
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| 20:52:04 | <d34df00d> | Suppose I want to work with a vector of n-tuples of 64 words. Right now, I have to either do V.Vector (V.Vector (VU.Vector Word)), where V = Data.Vector and VU = Data.Vector.Unboxed, giving me quite some extra indirections I don't need. |
| 20:52:39 | <d34df00d> | I also know about repa, but I have to interface with some Vector-supporting code. |
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| 21:01:34 | <wz1000> | d34df00d: vector-sized |
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| 21:24:02 | <d34df00d> | wz1000: hmm, not sure it enables the multidimensional unboxed vectors.s |
| 21:24:24 | <d34df00d> | Although size in types is nice, I'll have a use for it in another part of my stuff. |
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| 21:26:36 | <wz1000> | d34df00d: it does, once you have known sizes you can define Storable and Unbox instances |
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| 21:26:48 | <wz1000> | that is exactly what is done in vector-sized |
| 21:27:06 | <d34df00d> | Maybe I've missed it in the docs, let me take another look. |
| 21:27:37 | <wz1000> | d34df00d: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/vector-sized-1.4.0.0/docs/src/Data.Vector.Generic.Sized.html#line-294 |
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| 21:27:59 | <d34df00d> | Ah right, (Unbox a, KnownNat n) => Unbox (Vector Vector n a) |
| 21:28:02 | <d34df00d> | Missed that on the first reading. |
| 21:28:11 | <d34df00d> | Yeah, that does the trick for me, thanks! |
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| 21:29:51 | <tomsmeding> | maerwald: "also: color vs colour" -- clearly the best answer |
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| 21:50:15 | <hololeap> | this is one of those silly questions of preference, but which is better: *> or >> |
| 21:50:28 | <hololeap> | (when dealing with a Monad) |
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| 21:52:35 | <hololeap> | on one hand, (*>) reminds us that the operation doesn't use the "full power" of the monad, but (>>) looks cleaner visually |
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| 21:54:25 | <hololeap> | it seems to me that in an ideal world, Applicative would have (>>) and you would just use that |
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| 21:56:49 | <hololeap> | although (*>) reminds us of (<*>) and therefore sort of explains what it does visually |
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| 22:02:14 | <hololeap> | anyway, just curious which of these has a bigger bandwagon |
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| 22:07:22 | <tomsmeding> | hololeap: *> has <* while there is no << |
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| 22:07:40 | tomsmeding | would like >> and << |
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| 22:08:33 | <hololeap> | oh, i didn't realize that |
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| 22:25:53 | <gentauro> | tomsmeding: you already have `>>` right? |
| 22:25:58 | <gentauro> | that's the `bind` operator |
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| 22:27:46 | <gentauro> | do |
| 22:28:02 | <gentauro> | foo = |
| 22:28:08 | <gentauro> | putStrLn "foo" |
| 22:28:16 | <gentauro> | >> putStrLn "bar" |
| 22:28:24 | <gentauro> | (forget about the first do) |
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| 22:35:08 | <infinisil> | :t (<>) |
| 22:35:09 | <lambdabot> | Semigroup a => a -> a -> a |
| 22:35:13 | <infinisil> | :t (*>) |
| 22:35:14 | <lambdabot> | Applicative f => f a -> f b -> f b |
| 22:35:17 | <infinisil> | :t (>>) |
| 22:35:19 | <lambdabot> | Monad m => m a -> m b -> m b |
| 22:35:27 | <infinisil> | (ignore (<>)) |
| 22:36:32 | <infinisil> | Is there a reason >> couldn't be removed from Monad? |
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| 22:39:11 | <gentauro> | infinisil: why would you remove it? |
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| 22:39:25 | <gentauro> | I use it a lot (I tend not to write with do-notation) |
| 22:39:34 | <gentauro> | therefore I use both `>>` and `>>=` |
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| 22:49:10 | <d34df00d> | I prefer *> because less constraints. |
| 22:50:20 | <justsomeguy> | I have a type ''data Three a b c = Three a b c deriving (Eq, Show)'', and an instance for it, ''instance Foldable (Three b c) where { foldMap f (Three _ _ c) = f c }''. Why is it that I can define an instance like ''instance Foldable (Three b c)'' but not ''instance Foldable (Three a b c)''? How do I know which type arguments can't be used, and why? |
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| 22:51:46 | <justsomeguy> | I see that Data.Foldable has ''type Foldable :: (* -> *) -> Constraint''. What is that? |
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| 22:53:49 | <justsomeguy> | I feel like I'm missing something basic about how kind signatures work, or how to define instances, but I'm not sure exactly what. |
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| 23:22:02 | <edwardk> | justsomeguy: it'll always peel off arguments from the right. Consider if you could do otherwise. e.g. I might want fmap to map over the left half of a pair or to map over the right half of a pair, and i just call 'fmap (+1) (2,3)' -- which fmap did i mean? |
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| 23:22:31 | <edwardk> | justsomeguy: to ensure that instance resolution is always unambiguous there are no 'type lambdas' that you can use for the instance descriptions. |
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| 23:23:25 | <edwardk> | Foldable :: (Type -> Type) -> Constraint -- is a way to say that it is a constraint that works on any type constructor of kind Type -> Type. (Type is another way to say *, you can import it from Data.Kind. |
| 23:23:48 | <edwardk> | It might be easier to start with something like Eq :: Type -> Constraint or Ord :: Type -> Constraint. |
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| 23:24:10 | <edwardk> | Int :: Type; so we can talk about Eq Int :: Constraint |
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| 23:24:38 | <edwardk> | that is the type of 'proofs' or 'dictionaries' that Int is an instance of Eq. |
| 23:24:50 | <edwardk> | you use those on the left of => to carry along the constraint. |
| 23:25:08 | <edwardk> | e.g. sort :: Ord a => [a] -> [a] |
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| 23:25:54 | <edwardk> | Going back to your "Three" type. you have Three :: Type -> Type -> Type -> Type; Three Int :: Type -> Type -> Type; Three Int Bool :: Type -> Type |
| 23:26:12 | <edwardk> | now you have something of the right form that you could pass it to Foldable or Functor or Traversable |
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| 23:33:06 | <justsomeguy> | Ok, interesting. |
| 23:33:31 | <justsomeguy> | So why is that I can define an instance by ignoring the innermost type variables at all? Shouldn't I have to make a type alias, first, or something, to get rid of the unused type arguments? |
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| 23:34:11 | <c_wraith> | nah. types are curried, just like values |
| 23:34:41 | <c_wraith> | you can use `map show' without assigning it to a name |
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| 23:52:10 | <koz_> | Does {Haskell, GHC} allow _prefix_ operators? |
| 23:52:22 | <koz_> | I assume 'no', but maybe there's some magic-AF extension which does. |
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