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01:13:46 <dminuoso> Haha, I was about to file a bug report for a bottom that keeps blowing up in DebugWindows
01:14:14 <dminuoso> Just to finally realize, that Firefox screws up
01:14:43 <dminuoso> WM_NAME(COMPOUND_TEXT) = "Hot Questions - Stack Exchange — Mozilla Firefox"
01:14:46 <dminuoso> Sigh.
01:15:06 <dminuoso> That is not COMPOUND_TEXT...
01:29:56 <Liskni_si> dminuoso: does it crash xmonad or just print an error?
01:33:18 <dminuoso> Liskni_si: Oh amusing, I think I found it.
01:33:24 <dminuoso> How did nobody else stumble over it
01:33:31 <dminuoso> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/422
01:34:22 <Liskni_si> that's a question I keep asking me entire life
01:35:15 <dminuoso> Maybe people just dont debug their stacksets? Or perhaps utf8 titles are that rare..
01:35:22 <Liskni_si> or both
02:19:46 <Liskni_si> oh and the travis/github integration seems to be broken
02:20:00 <Liskni_si> there's just too much work that needs to be done :-(
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10:29:11 <psibi[m]> Liskni_si: It seems travis no longer works for open source projects: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25338983
10:30:51 <psibi[m]> I'm integrating github actions to xmonad-extras: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-extras/pull/27 But it's limited to stack. (since I use only that)
10:30:51 <psibi[m]> I will send a PR integrating the same to xmonad, xmonad-contrib. Although I would like if someone integrates cabal too and sends a PR for it.
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11:04:26 <Liskni_si> psibi[m]: awesome!
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13:47:56 <Liskni_si> I'll definitely not tackle the cabal integration though, I haven't seen it in 5+ years
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15:55:32 <Liskni_si> psibi[m]: btw did you look at https://github.com/actions/setup-haskell? if we need to integrate cabal as well it might be easier to just use this for the setup
15:56:38 <Liskni_si> unfortunately I've got loads of other stuff I'm working on so even though I could help, I have no idea when I could realistically get to it :-/
15:59:38 <psibi[m]> Liskni_si: That does look interesting. I think that could be used for adding cabal integration easily. Probably a separate workflow in addition to the stack one.
16:00:26 <Liskni_si> psibi[m]: Yeah, or perhaps a matrix with an if branch, if we're lucky and it's not more complicated than that :-)
16:01:01 <psibi[m]> I prefer the current CI configuration for stack as it's pretty simple: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-extras/blob/c4f51c0ff259692cfb617b2a3aea1432629a78c3/.github/workflows/tests.yml#L31
16:01:01 <psibi[m]> But for cabal integration, I think we should try to use this.
16:01:56 <Liskni_si> Yeah, I really love the simplicity. Honestly wasn't expecting given what the travis.yml looked like :-)
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16:31:44 <Liskni_si> mc47: hey just to be sure, when you say "doesn't break anything" did you look into the tarballs it generates?
16:32:19 <Liskni_si> sdist without extra-source-files will probably still work, just produce a tarball with missing files
16:32:26 <mc47> Let me check again
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16:32:52 <mc47> these stack/cabal shenanigans are all new to me
16:33:18 <mc47> yes, they're there
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16:58:42 <psibi[m]> Liskni_si: Thanks for your comments related to caching. I think I have to understand it more. So I will likely play around it with my personal projects and send an updated PR if things work out well.
16:59:15 <Liskni_si> psibi[m]: feel free to ping me if you want any hints any time
16:59:40 <Liskni_si> I spent half of summer with github actions, so it's still fresh in my memory
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17:17:42 <psibi[m]> Liskni_si: Thanks. :-) I will definitely ping you if I hit any blockers.
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17:36:40 <dminuoso> Liskni_si: Regarding https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/399 - what further work needs to be done?
17:37:35 <Liskni_si> dminuoso: X.H.Focus needs to be adapted, documentation updated, and EwmhDesktops documentation updated as well
17:38:00 <Liskni_si> so far I only commented the parts of X.H.Focus that didn't compile
17:38:10 <Liskni_si> but they need to be rewritten to fit into the new framework
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17:38:37 <Liskni_si> (or maybe they can stay dropped but the docs need to reflect that and describe how to use it without them)
17:39:14 <Liskni_si> goes without saying that any help is appreciated
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17:39:56 <Liskni_si> I've been meaning to get to it, but I procrastinate on documentation, and I don't personally need X.H.Focus so I'm now hacking on SubLayouts instead :-)
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17:45:08 <Solid> hah
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17:46:47 <Solid> Liskni_si: I'd +1 "Debian Stable has 8.4.4 so I'd probably attempt to support lts-12+ but anything older can probably be dropped?" if that means anything
17:47:25 <Solid> that's how we did it for xmobar anyways, a user running xmonad on a system that's moldier than debian stable seems infeasable :>
17:48:24 <Liskni_si> that's not entirely fair though
17:48:48 <Liskni_si> ubuntu 16.04 lts and 18.04 lts are still supported and I keep seeing them mentioned
17:49:05 <Liskni_si> debian stable is bleeding edge compared to that :-)
17:49:53 <Solid> holy shit, 7.10 Oo
17:50:02 <Liskni_si> that being said, unless we test on these old platforms and someone puts in the work to support them, ...
17:50:07 <Solid> yeah
17:51:13 <Solid> I suppose if you run these kinds of ultra ~~moldy~~ stable systems then you're not likely to install from git
17:51:33 <Liskni_si> yeah, and if you do, you'll just let stack install ghc for you
17:51:35 <Solid> I haven't seen a project that actively supports 7.10 in a while
17:51:40 <Solid> yeah, or that
17:52:25 <Solid> I for one am getting my "remove all the useless Data.Monoid ((<>)) etc. imports"-pr ready :D
17:52:27 <Liskni_si> (about to merge https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/421, just added a last note)
17:52:39 <Liskni_si> oh ě
17:52:41 <Liskni_si>
17:52:59 <Solid> ah of course
17:53:08 <Solid> I can't believe no one ever wanted the NSP name exported
17:53:18 <Solid> I guess it's easier to just write "NSP"
17:53:48 <Liskni_si> I have "silence unused imports warnings" on my todo list as it's sometimes difficult to support multiple versions of base without getting warnings on at least some of them
17:54:01 <Liskni_si> can you perhaps do this instead of me?
17:54:36 <Liskni_si> or maybe it's calmed down now and you'll be able to silence them all while supporting all bases, dunno
17:55:03 <Liskni_si> been reading snoyberg's blog posts lately and the suggestion to -Wall -fno-something-unused-somethingsomething was there :-)
17:55:37 <Solid> no-incomplete-uni-patterns or something I think
17:56:00 <Liskni_si> that, too
17:56:01 <Solid> no wait that's a warning that should be enabled
17:56:19 <Liskni_si> that's a separate issue
17:56:53 <Liskni_si> that's a warning we may like to have, maybe, but the unused imports is making a lot of noise now
17:57:12 <Solid> I think most unused imports are just from (<>) and (<$>), which should be fixable with all newer ghc's
17:57:25 <Solid> but yeah I can look at unused imports as a whole
17:57:40 <Solid> (the NSP doc thingy is fixed btw)
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