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| 09:17:45 | <Solid> | I wish things in the PP type were a little more strongly typed :/ |
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| 11:30:02 | <ADG1089__> | @t spawnPipe |
| 11:30:03 | <lambdabot> | Maybe you meant: tell thank you thanks thesaurus thx tic-tac-toe ticker time todo todo-add todo-delete type v @ ? . |
| 11:30:11 | <ADG1089__> | @type spawnPipe |
| 11:30:14 | <lambdabot> | error: Variable not in scope: spawnPipe |
| 11:31:11 | <ADG1089__> | spawnPipe :: MonadIO m => String -> m Handle (Launch an external application through the system shell and return a Handle to its standard input.) |
| 11:31:52 | <ADG1089__> | how can i get the handle to its standard output? |
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| 11:38:56 | <Solid> | it returns the handle as a monadic action |
| 11:39:19 | <Solid> | i.e. if you're in some do-notation-thing you can do `h <- spawnPipe "my-program"'` |
| 11:39:26 | <Solid> | and then `h` will be the handle |
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| 12:30:52 | <ADG1089__> | Solid: it returns stdin, i wanted stdout; I copied the source code and modified it to spawnPipe' |
| 12:31:08 | <ADG1089__> | anyways, i wanted to know if there is a X transformer |
| 12:31:10 | <ADG1089__> | @hoogle X a -> IO a |
| 12:31:11 | <lambdabot> | Basement.Monad unsafePrimToIO :: PrimMonad prim => prim a -> IO a |
| 12:31:11 | <lambdabot> | Generic.Data.Internal.Utils coerce' :: Coercible (f x) (g x) => f x -> g x |
| 12:31:11 | <lambdabot> | Control.Effect.Lift sendM :: (Has (Lift n) sig m, Functor n) => n a -> m a |
| 12:32:44 | <Solid> | ADG1089__: whoops, sorry for missing that detail |
| 12:33:39 | <Solid> | There's no (safe) way to do `X a -> IO a', no |
| 12:33:51 | <Solid> | because the X monad is essentially "IO with more stuff" |
| 12:34:33 | <Solid> | what you can do it run that "more stuff" and get the IO action out; that function is called `runX' |
| 12:34:42 | <Solid> | @hoogle runX |
| 12:34:43 | <lambdabot> | Text.XML.HXT.Arrow.XmlState runX :: IOSArrow XmlTree c -> IO [c] |
| 12:34:43 | <lambdabot> | Text.XML.HXT.Arrow.XmlState.RunIOStateArrow runX :: IOSArrow XmlTree c -> IO [c] |
| 12:34:43 | <lambdabot> | XMonad.Core runX :: XConf -> XState -> X a -> IO (a, XState) |
| 12:35:10 | <ADG1089__> | Solid: I was using XMonad.Util.ExtensibleState#gets :: (ExtensionClass a, XLike m) => (a -> b) -> m b inside a do notation with IO |
| 12:35:35 | <ADG1089__> | but IO is not XLike so i couldn't bind the result `v <- XS.gets` |
| 12:36:00 | <Solid> | Yes, if your function is in IO there's no way you can get at xmonad's extensible state |
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| 12:37:58 | <ADG1089__> | I can make that X and use liftIO in dependent functions |
| 12:38:01 | <ADG1089__> | I think Solid |
| 12:39:27 | <Solid> | That would be possible yes |
| 12:40:13 | <Solid> | actually, maybe not; depends on _where_ you want to use that |
| 12:40:42 | <dminuoso> | It still surprises me how non-Haskellers write their xmonad config with extensible state, and not run scared off. It confused the heck out of me for a long while how this could even work when I was actually learning Haskell. |
| 12:41:41 | <Solid> | dminuoso: I would expect non-Haskellers to be much more comfortable with the idea of "oh there's some bit of global mutable state here" than people who're already a few levels deep into the cult ;) |
| 12:49:26 | <ADG1089__> | i have some haskell experience |
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| 13:03:04 | <dminuoso> | Solid: Not just mutable state, but global mutable extensible state! :P |
| 13:03:47 | <aldum> | non-haskellers don't know what they are messing with in the config :) |
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| 19:35:55 | <ADG1089__> | anyone using gridselect, has anyone thought of adding add .desktop files in path to it? |
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| 19:49:11 | <Liskni_si> | ADG1089__: rofi already does this |
| 19:49:31 | <Liskni_si> | (but the UI is different a bit, yeah) |
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| 19:55:59 | <ADG1089__> | Liskni_si: this rofi is amazing |
| 19:56:22 | <ADG1089__> | I can remove xmonad run prompt, ssh prompt, grid select |
| 19:57:05 | <ADG1089__> | and probably tree select too |
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| 20:01:56 | <dminuoso> | Gah, why is the intel driver so damn buggy. |
| 20:02:15 | <dminuoso> | Now firefox is regularly bugged to the point, that it's window content doesn't refresh. It's visually stuck |
| 20:02:29 | <ADG1089__> | Liskni_si: i have used Albert launcher in the past, how does it compare to rofi |
| 20:02:49 | <dminuoso> | Sadly modesetting doesn't offer vsync, what are my options here? Is a compositor likely to have a positive effect? |
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| 20:15:38 | <al3x27> | ADG1089__: rofi is simpler, but faster |
| 20:16:36 | <al3x27> | ADG1089__: gridselect is great for stuff you tend to forget (for older folk) |
| 20:16:59 | <Liskni_si> | dminuoso: compositor solves tearing |
| 20:17:16 | <Liskni_si> | dminuoso: unfortunately it usually brings its own problems |
| 20:17:58 | <Liskni_si> | I'm on picom 7.4 and it works, but newer versions are slow and older buggy. It's a total mess. |
| 20:18:33 | <Liskni_si> | (the x11 compositor landscape, not picom/compton in particular) |
| 20:18:50 | <Liskni_si> | ADG1089__: never heard of Albert |
| 20:21:15 | <ADG1089__> | Liskni_si: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i95rn3sl_Uo |
| 20:21:19 | <al3x27> | Liskni_si: Liskni_si it's a quicksilver wanabe, from the golden days of MocOS |
| 20:21:36 | <al3x27> | MacOS |
| 20:27:23 | <dminuoso> | Liskni_si: Sigh. So perhaps its better to just accept tearing, switch to modesetting and not plug in a compositor then... |
| 20:28:06 | <Liskni_si> | dminuoso: it's not that bad :-) |
| 20:28:28 | <Liskni_si> | Most people won't notice the slowness or the bugs. |
| 20:28:38 | <dminuoso> | Well, I guess its bearable since I rarely watch videos on my work laptop. |
| 20:28:49 | <dminuoso> | On my desktop it's a different story because it's an nvidia card |
| 20:28:58 | <Liskni_si> | It's better than the random full system hangs of xf86-video-intel |
| 20:29:12 | <dminuoso> | full system hangs? |
| 20:29:26 | <dminuoso> | Mmm. Well I've had just my share of large windows bug/crap out in mysterious ways.. |
| 20:29:32 | <dminuoso> | All disappeared when I switched to modesetting. :> |
| 20:29:39 | <Liskni_si> | Or whatever other problem you're having... |
| 20:30:10 | <dminuoso> | I should get a T14 then with an ATI card. |
| 20:30:14 | <dminuoso> | Or well. AMD. |
| 20:30:20 | <Liskni_si> | :-D |
| 20:31:24 | <Liskni_si> | I'm going to bisect picom sooner or later, but there's little motivation as 7.4 or .5 or whatever I have just works. |
| 20:31:44 | <Liskni_si> | I don't need the fancy new features like shadows that slow everything down |
| 20:32:28 | <Liskni_si> | Or blurs. Shadows are there since xcompmgr |
| 20:32:31 | <dminuoso> | Well, at best Id just use it to fight tearing. |
| 20:33:03 | Solid | is still using some old compton fork because it has a blur option that no one else has yet :> |
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| 20:33:45 | <dminuoso> | How is blur even useful on a tiling wm? |
| 20:33:56 | <dminuoso> | Oh wait. I was thinking transparency |
| 20:35:30 | <Solid> | dminuoso: I don't have a border around windows; instead, unfocused windows are slightly transparent+blured |
| 20:36:03 | <dminuoso> | Can you share a screenshot how that would look? Im curious |
| 20:38:56 | <Liskni_si> | I think I only have blur under notify-osd and I could live even without that. |
| 20:40:21 | <Solid> | dminuoso: sure https://i.imgur.com/nBNvBfc.png |
| 20:40:26 | <Liskni_si> | Actually have no idea if that blur is composited |
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| 20:47:46 | <AHemlocksLie> | I'm getting into xmonad and using it to build an info board sort of set up, and I want to autostart some programs and predefine the layout of a couple workspaces. Ideally, define a few workspaces, each with a preset list of autorun applications in a set layout and its own background. Can anyone recommend a resource to start working this out? |
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| 20:54:27 | <Solid> | AHemlocksLie: you can use topic spaces ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-TopicSpace.html ) or dynamic projects ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-DynamicProjects.html ) for that |
| 20:54:43 | <Solid> | (probably others, but these are the ones that come to mind right now) |
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| 21:07:08 | <AHemlocksLie> | Awesome, thanks for the leads |
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