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| 10:19:13 | <Solid> | ?tell mc-47 I just noticed that you must have deleted `cleanupStatusBars' from the startupHooks in statusBarProp[To] at some point; that function is never called now unless users manually add it to their startupHooks, might want to fix that ;) |
| 10:19:13 | <lambdabot> | Consider it noted. |
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| 12:10:14 | <ElKowar> | is the type signature of `XMonad.Layout.IndependentScreens.onCurrentScreen` just wrong? it's (VirtualWorkspace -> WindowSet -> a) -> PhysicalWorkspace -> Windowset -> a but the example code using it shows it being used with a VirtualWorkspace as the second last argument,..... |
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| 12:13:01 | <ElKowar> | IndependentScreens is very much underdocumented / weirdly documented,... no idea how i actually managed to initially understand that thing lol |
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| 13:15:40 | <Solid> | ElKowar: according to the code both `PhysicalWorkspace' and `VirtualWorkspace' are just aliases for `WorkspaceId' |
| 13:15:57 | <ElKowar> | yea, i know, that's why i'm asking ;D otherwise the signature could not have been wrong |
| 13:16:26 | <Solid> | ah I see |
| 13:16:41 | <Solid> | well `marshall' expects a `VirtualWorkspace' |
| 13:16:57 | <Solid> | so I would assume that should be the case for `onCurrentScreen' as well |
| 13:17:29 | <Solid> | something-something that wouldn't have happend with newtypes something-something |
| 13:17:55 | <Solid> | oh and the name even is `vws', probabyl not supposed to be a physical one, that one :D |
| 13:20:40 | <ElKowar> | that whole module needs a good bit of love i feel like |
| 13:20:49 | <ElKowar> | currenlty trying to fix some issues with the window activation event |
| 13:21:04 | <ElKowar> | for which i need things like a `W.view` that views on the correct screen |
| 13:21:57 | <Solid> | yes a blame shows that the last commit to that module was in 2013 |
| 13:22:42 | <Solid> | I guess at some point most people embrace xmonad's objectvitely superior way of handling multi-monitor setups :> |
| 13:22:59 | <ElKowar> | really not a fan of the index-style handling i guess xD |
| 13:23:06 | <ElKowar> | just feels really awkward, even after a week of trying to get used to it |
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| 13:52:32 | <ElKowar> | God this took me much longer than it should have |
| 13:53:18 | <ElKowar> | https://paste.gnome.org/pzkgxpgna |
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| 14:20:46 | <ElKowar> | I'm still really confused by onCurrentScreen. Like the description states that it can transform functions of virtual workspaces to physical workspaces - which would at least have a point. The implementation however does the opposite - it takes a function that expects a physical workspace, and returns one over virtual workspaces |
| 14:20:55 | <ElKowar> | but then, why does it actually _work_? |
| 14:21:57 | <ElKowar> | the example shows `windows $ onCurrentScreen W.view 1`, which,... seems off |
| 14:22:19 | <ElKowar> | like onCurrentScreen W.view gives me `VirtualWorkspace -> WindowSet -> WindowSet` |
| 14:22:21 | <ElKowar> | wait ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 14:22:59 | <ElKowar> | then they're giving it "1", which is a VirtualWorkspace, which will then in turn be turned back into "1-1" (for exMPLe) and thus result in the correct WindowSet -> WindowSet function |
| 14:23:04 | <ElKowar> | ohhhh god this is weird |
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| 15:39:53 | <daphnis> | is it normal for everything the freeze if your cat types too many characters into the shell prompt? |
| 15:40:06 | <daphnis> | s/the/to |
| 15:41:32 | <daphnis> | i can open a different tty and see the changes in the tmux window, but the x session doesn't seem to accept any input at all |
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| 16:24:32 | <ElKowar> | Okay, I think I'm done with https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/438 now! Should make IndependentScreens a lot more ergonomic to work with |
| 16:24:38 | <vrs> | daphnis: ctrl+s/ctrl+q? |
| 16:24:58 | <vrs> | I don't think there's a similar thing for X though |
| 16:27:41 | <daphnis> | vrs: for x as opposed to what? i ended up killing xinit |
| 16:28:14 | <vrs> | C-s/C-q like to freeze terminals and it's usually very surprising |
| 16:29:23 | <vrs> | well, c-s does, c=q unfreezes |
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| 16:46:18 | <daphnis> | vrs: aha |
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| 23:21:58 | <andytoshi> | hiya. i'm trying to make my xmobar look different on the active monitor ... i've been able to output the screen ID of the active screen from xmonad, but i can't figure out how to make xmobar do anything useful with it (seems that StdinReader is just a dumb pipe) |
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| 23:22:13 | <andytoshi> | so alternatively i've been trying to do everything in xmonad... |
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| 23:22:52 | <andytoshi> | but i have a xmobarPP, and only ppOutput knows about the different instances of xmobar, and it's a String -> IO () |
| 23:23:05 | <andytoshi> | so I'm outside of the X monad there and can't get the current screen |
| 23:23:25 | <andytoshi> | has anyone successfully done this before? |
| 23:24:04 | <Liskni_si> | I have, but my setup is very custom |
| 23:24:29 | <Liskni_si> | on the other hand, having multiple xmobars sounds a bit custom, too |
| 23:25:40 | <Liskni_si> | my config is here: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.xmonad/xmonad.hs, and if you show us yours, maybe we can figure out the least intrusive way to do that |
| 23:26:37 | <andytoshi> | sure, one moment |
| 23:26:54 | <andytoshi> | is having multiple xmobars pretty custom? i think that's the usual way to get them on every monitor |
| 23:29:03 | <andytoshi> | here is my xmobar log hook -- | Get the name of the current layout. |
| 23:29:03 | <andytoshi> | logLayout :: Logger |
| 23:29:09 | <andytoshi> | oops wrong paste |
| 23:29:11 | <andytoshi> | here it is https://github.com/apoelstra/xmonad-config/blob/master/xmonad.hs#L49-L57 |
| 23:29:33 | <andytoshi> | i am doing some weird/custom stuff with workspaces, to force them to specific monitors, but i think the xmobar stuff is fairly mainstream |
| 23:29:37 | <Liskni_si> | well it's not something that is supported directly by DynamicLog, and DynamicBars is not very well documented and arguably somewhat less flexible (at least for me) |
| 23:29:55 | <Liskni_si> | so I'd consider it pretty custom :-) |
| 23:30:01 | <andytoshi> | ok that's fair :) |
| 23:30:58 | <andytoshi> | so... IndependentScreens actually does roughly what i'm trying to do here .. see `marshalPP` https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.13/docs/src/XMonad-Layout-IndependentScreens.html#onCurrentScreen |
| 23:31:18 | <andytoshi> | but the way they've done that is pretty hacky and specific to their way of naming workspaces (and mapping them to monitors) which i don't like |
| 23:31:31 | <andytoshi> | so i'd have to redo that code ... which i can do, but hopefully i don't have to implement my own PP like that |
| 23:31:43 | <andytoshi> | my hope is that there's a "simpler" way to go |
| 23:32:07 | <Liskni_si> | took a look at your code, I think the problem is that you're running dynamicLogWithPP only once and outputting the same output to all three xmobars |
| 23:32:32 | <Liskni_si> | when you invoke dynamicLogWithPP with slightly different pp for every xmobar, you'll have the flexibility you need |
| 23:32:46 | <andytoshi> | Liskni_si: yep .. which i think i got from some "xmonad with multiple monitors" tutorial |
| 23:32:58 | <andytoshi> | ok, nice, let me look into how to have multiple pps |
| 23:33:11 | <Liskni_si> | (and my xmonad.hs actually does implement my own PP because I need stuff that isn't in DynamicLog either) |
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