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| 04:16:35 | <rudentoxic> | How can I get a window to display behind other windows with transparency? I switched from xcompmgr to picom, and I'm using Full layout. |
| 04:18:02 | <rudentoxic> | I just noticed, when I float a window, that it does work. maybe I should use a different layout. |
| 04:28:29 | <rudentoxic> | Basically, what is it that keeps a window from being composited below another window? |
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| 06:16:07 | <rudentoxic> | this channel is more unhelpful than archlinux |
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| 07:20:38 | <Solid> | really living up to the name |
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| 10:19:04 | <kmicu> | Wait a minute so it works for floats but not when tiled? But there’s no window below when tiled. That’s the point of tiling. I do not follow. |
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| 12:44:54 | <geekosaur> | the answer being that windows that are completely covered aren't even mapped. that goes back several years |
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| 15:54:46 | <al3x27> | What's this with some windows that start as floats, then mod-t puts them in the right place, is it a config error on my side? |
| 15:56:20 | <Solid> | al3x27: (almost) no windows start as floats by default, that must be something in your manageHook |
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| 15:57:10 | <al3x27> | Solid: hmm, weird, it's halflife and libreoffice, i have no hooks, but maybe they are covered by something else... |
| 15:57:53 | <al3x27> | mod-t is the best key ever, though |
| 16:00:37 | <fizzie> | `isFixedSize || isTransient` windows do start as floats by default. LibreOffice at least shouldn't fall into that category though. |
| 16:01:48 | <Solid> | yes these are kind of rare windows |
| 16:01:53 | <al3x27> | fizzie: ah, halflife does, though, so that's one... |
| 16:02:06 | <Solid> | there's also a default manageHook for MPlayer for some reason |
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| 16:02:52 | <fizzie> | There used to be one for Gimp as well. |
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| 16:03:19 | <Solid> | yes that was removed at some point, but somehow obscure music players survived :> |
| 16:03:35 | <al3x27> | fizzie: gimp has grown up, and is a decent app now |
| 16:03:40 | <fizzie> | It's more of a video player, not a music player. |
| 16:04:21 | <fizzie> | (And IME it was more of a "de-facto standard" rather than "obscure".) |
| 16:05:31 | <al3x27> | mplayer was king for quite many years, and is still the lightest, all 'round player (mpv is nicer, though) |
| 16:06:37 | <Solid> | well I stand corrected then; I'm clearly not old school enough for this |
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| 16:13:13 | <fizzie> | I may be biased from having had a Matrox card for so long. ("mplayer -vo mga" / "mplayer -vo xmga" was really the only way for video playback.) |
| 16:13:16 | <fizzie> | In any case, "regular" LibreOffice windows do start tiled for me, FWIW. |
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| 16:31:37 | <al3x27> | fizzie: having had a matrox card puts you solidly in old-school... and office now behaves as it should |
| 16:31:52 | <al3x27> | just the wine apps left |
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| 16:35:14 | <ADG1089__> | how can i theme qt apps under xmonad? |
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| 16:36:51 | <al3x27> | ADG1089__: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and_GTK_applications |
| 16:38:15 | <Solid> | qt is sane here and they ship their own theming program |
| 16:38:20 | <Solid> | it's called qtconfig |
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| 16:40:44 | <ADG1089__> | qtconfig no longer exist in qt5 |
| 16:41:12 | <Solid> | ... |
| 16:41:20 | <Solid> | s/is/was/ |
| 16:41:49 | <ADG1089__> | I think some apps obey qt style like kdevelop but konversation does not want to |
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| 16:43:20 | <al3x27> | ADG1089__: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KDE_Plasma |
| 16:44:25 | <ADG1089__> | al3x27: thanks, installing qt5ct, hoping it works |
| 16:44:29 | <al3x27> | qt5ct is the new qtconfig |
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| 16:46:33 | <ADG1089__> | al3x27: amazing!!!! thank you very much |
| 16:46:50 | <al3x27> | archwiki to the rescue! |
| 16:47:16 | <ADG1089__> | yeah that's a f*king great wiki, I solved a lot of problems and learnt lot of stuff from it |
| 16:47:23 | <ADG1089__> | just been a month or so installed arch |
| 16:47:35 | <ADG1089__> | after 2 years of ubuntu and countless years of windows |
| 16:47:49 | <al3x27> | i've been using the wiki a lot longer then arch :-) |
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| 16:53:00 | <ADG1089__> | I should set these variables in /etc/profile? export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct |
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| 17:00:04 | <al3x27> | i use ~/.zshrc, but see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xprofile |
| 17:01:10 | <al3x27> | anyting that gets read before your WM is fine, but local is better then /etc (in theory) |
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| 17:07:14 | <ADG1089__> | Also I wanted to ask I had kde installed with xmonad so the login was from sddm, can i safely remove kde now, what would i use as my login gui then? |
| 17:09:39 | <Solid> | I'm pretty sure sddm is standalone |
| 17:10:26 | <Solid> | so you can just continue to use sddm (assuming uninstalling kde doesn't also uninstall that; in that case you may have to reinstall) |
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| 18:55:43 | <Liskni_si> | Speaking of mplayer, oh the joys of playing media on a 32M RAM Celeron laptop. |
| 18:56:50 | <Liskni_si> | X11 was too slow. |
| 18:57:33 | <Liskni_si> | Solid: I'll try to look at your xdg PR tomorrow. Traveling today. |
| 19:01:09 | <Ristovski> | a bit off topic, but any idea why changing window atoms seemingly has no effect? I am working on a status bar and I'm using glfw for context/windowing, I grab the X Window ID from it and then run some xcb_change_property, which are reflected in xprop/xwininfo, but they seem to have no effect |
| 19:01:46 | <Ristovski> | for example, setting it to _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK does not seem to have any effect, even after xcb_flush() :/ |
| 19:03:29 | <geekosaur> | most atoms are looked at only at specific times, for example when the window is mapped |
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| 19:03:34 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: awesome, thanks :) |
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| 19:05:03 | <geekosaur> | and you mean properties |
| 19:05:51 | <Ristovski> | geekosaur: the thing is, doing xcb_unmap_window/xcb_map_window doesn't seem to do anything either |
| 19:06:58 | <geekosaur> | what were you expecting to happen? |
| 19:09:25 | <Ristovski> | did you mean most atoms are only parsed /the first time/ the window is mapped? |
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| 19:10:07 | <Ristovski> | (I tried unmapping/mapping the window to reparse them, but if they are only looked at the first time the window is mapped, I can see why it wouldn't work) |
| 19:16:48 | <geekosaur> | should be any time it's mapped. but setting that property does not turn a window into a dock; it advertises that the window is a dock and should be handled as such (that is, look for _NET_WM_STRUT_PARTIAL and friends) |
| 19:17:57 | <geekosaur> | docks are self-managing and must know that they are docks |
| 19:24:05 | <Ristovski> | geekosaur: for reference, here is a minimally reproducible example: https://bpa.st/MVUQ |
| 19:25:22 | <Ristovski> | xprop and xwininfo: https://bpa.st/WITA |
| 19:26:33 | <geekosaur> | I'm still trying to figure out what you think should happen |
| 19:26:33 | <Ristovski> | I really can't figure what else is necessary, I toyed with the source code of something like yabar, and the dock property /alone/ is enough to produce the desired behavior |
| 19:27:34 | <Ristovski> | geekosaur: well I get a regular movable/resizable window instead of one that is static and ignored by xmonad (aka, like any other bar) |
| 19:28:44 | <Ristovski> | the properties (dock + struts) clearly get set, and if they get re-read each time the window gets mapped (I unmap and map it again), I don't see why it wouldn't be working |
| 19:36:58 | <geekosaur> | unmap and remap should be enough. although I'll note that it's on the dock app to draw itself in the right place, not on the window manager |
| 19:39:01 | <Ristovski> | geekosaur: if I take yabar, remove all properties, it also acts as a regular window, if I put its _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK property back - it works as expected |
| 19:39:08 | <Ristovski> | I am starting to think this might be some weird glfw issue :/ |
| 19:41:31 | <geekosaur> | glfw may indeed be the issue, opengl is actually somewhat separate from X11 and has its own behaviors |
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| 19:49:33 | <abhixec> | is there a way to automatically change layout if number of windows is equal to some value? |
| 19:55:37 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Layout/IfMax.hs |
| 19:56:14 | <geekosaur> | not quite the same thing but maybe close enough? |
| 19:56:56 | <abhixec> | thanks geekosaur |
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| 22:17:40 | <toniz4> | hello, I'm tring to make xmobar work with xmonad, but xmobar just wont show up |
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| 22:21:16 | <dariof4> | have you set up your xmonad.hs so that it starts xmobar? |
| 22:22:19 | <toniz4> | dariof4: it would be in the main function right? |
| 22:22:25 | <toniz4> | like this: xmproc <- spawnPipe "xmobar ~/.config/xmobar/xmobar.hs" |
| 22:22:46 | <dariof4> | yeah |
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| 22:23:41 | <toniz4> | oops, killed the window by mistake |
| 22:23:59 | <toniz4> | and xmonad is allocating space for the bar |
| 22:25:36 | <dariof4> | have you tried just running it with "xmobar" instead of "xmobar ~/.config/xmobar/xmobar.hs"? |
| 22:26:50 | <toniz4> | same problem |
| 22:27:22 | <dariof4> | oh actually, that should point to "~/.config/xmobar/xmobarrc" instead of xmobar.hs i think |
| 22:28:14 | <toniz4> | dariof4: the config is the default one, i just renamed it |
| 22:28:28 | <toniz4> | im going to change the name of it |
| 22:28:37 | <dariof4> | and can you pastebin your xmonad.hs so i can take a look at it and maybe see if i find anything? |
| 22:28:43 | <toniz4> | sure |
| 22:28:59 | <toniz4> | https://0x0.st/-s9r.hs |
| 22:33:03 | <dariof4> | weird, your config is not working for me either |
| 22:36:18 | <toniz4> | dariof4: my xmobar config is default, just changed the font |
| 22:44:23 | <dariof4> | toniz4: i found the issue |
| 22:44:47 | <toniz4> | dariof4: nice, where it is? |
| 22:47:14 | <dariof4> | replace "logHook = myLogHook" with "logHook = dynamicLogWithPP xmobarPP |
| 22:47:16 | <dariof4> | { ppOutput = hPutStrLn xmproc |
| 22:47:18 | <dariof4> | } |
| 22:47:20 | <dariof4> | , |
| 22:48:23 | <dariof4> | and also change "defaults = def { blah blah blah}" to "defaults xmproc = def {blah blah blah}" |
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| 22:49:05 | <dariof4> | and the last thing to change is in main replace "xmonad defaults" with "xmonad $ defaults xmproc" |
| 22:49:33 | <dariof4> | and it should work hopefully |
| 22:50:18 | <toniz4> | dariof4: can i change myLoghook instead of logHook directly? |
| 22:51:38 | <dariof4> | I'm not 100% sure tbh |
| 22:51:50 | <toniz4> | gonna try the way you said first |
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| 22:54:55 | <toniz4> | still isn't working ;( |
| 22:55:39 | <dariof4> | let me try to give you the pastebin to your config with the change i made, wait a seconed |
| 22:55:53 | <toniz4> | ok thanks! |
| 22:56:40 | <toniz4> | btw, i use this function in my shell to upload files to 0x0.st |
| 22:56:47 | <toniz4> | upload0x0() { |
| 22:56:48 | <toniz4> | for arg in "$@"; do |
| 22:56:48 | <toniz4> | curl -F"file=@${arg}" https://0x0.st |
| 22:56:48 | <toniz4> | done |
| 22:56:48 | <toniz4> | } |
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| 23:16:58 | <dariof4> | toniz4: ughh, i got the bar working, but it's no longer leaving the space for it |
| 23:17:35 | <toniz4> | damm |
| 23:18:24 | <dariof4> | oh wait i got it working |
| 23:19:00 | <toniz4> | haskell looks like an alien language to me lol, i can't understand a line of it |
| 23:20:12 | <dariof4> | https://pastebin.com/aAwVCYLu |
| 23:20:14 | <dariof4> | try this |
| 23:20:17 | <dariof4> | should work |
| 23:21:00 | <dariof4> | though it was giving me some trouble with firefox for some reason |
| 23:24:19 | <toniz4> | dariof4: it allocates space for the bar, but it doesn't show |
| 23:24:24 | <dariof4> | oh and also you should change your xmobar config by adding %StdinReader% to your template, eg. ", template = "%StdinReader%}{ %mpd% | %memory% | %RJTT% | %date% || %kbd% "and also add ", Run StdinReader" where all the other things are run |
| 23:24:32 | <toniz4> | are you using a different config for the xmobar? |
| 23:25:01 | <dariof4> | try adding those two things i mentioned to your xmobar config |
| 23:27:11 | <dariof4> | https://pastebin.com/QhLR71DY |
| 23:27:17 | <dariof4> | this is my xmobar config |
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| 23:36:54 | <toniz4> | dariof4: i'm having this problem https://0x0.st/-s9_.txt |
| 23:38:04 | <dariof4> | oh woops |
| 23:38:35 | <dariof4> | it didn't copy properly, that line should be [ Run Weather "RJTT" [ "--template", "<skyCondition> | <fc=#88c0d0><tempC></fc>°C | <fc=#88c0d0><rh></fc>% | <fc=#88c0d0><pressure></fc>hPa" |
| 23:49:38 | <toniz4> | now im having this error , Run = StdinReader |
| 23:49:40 | <toniz4> | oops |
| 23:49:44 | <toniz4> | https://0x0.st/-s9W.txt |
| 23:50:56 | <dariof4> | that's weird |
| 23:52:55 | <dariof4> | can i see the full config? |
| 23:53:05 | <dariof4> | and try to see if it works on my system |
| 23:55:05 | <toniz4> | https://dpaste.com/EYG9SGAS5 |
| 23:56:26 | <dariof4> | hmm |
| 23:56:47 | <dariof4> | when does it give you that error? |
| 23:57:10 | <toniz4> | when i run xmobar xmobarrc |
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