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| 01:47:14 | <Hash> | My Xmonad community |
| 01:48:10 | <Hash> | I buried my older brother today with my own hands. I carried him to his final resting place and shoveled the Earth onto his grave. |
| 01:49:08 | <Hash> | He was an ER nurse, a COVID first responder, the most loving and kind soul... My entire life... 40 years... I cannot recall a single person who disliked him |
| 01:49:38 | <Hash> | He was a brillaint painter, an exceptional singer, that when he sang, you could not help but be moved. His voice induced chills. |
| 01:49:51 | <Hash> | My heart is broken into a million pieces. |
| 01:50:29 | <L29Ah> | did he use xmonad? |
| 01:50:30 | <Hash> | I shed not one tear in front of my family and did my best to support my mother and sister. |
| 01:50:44 | <Hash> | But here in front of you, I cannot help but weep uncontrollably. |
| 01:50:53 | <Hash> | I cannot be a man in this moment. I have to break down and let it out. |
| 01:51:12 | <Hash> | Please... whatever you may believe, pray that my mother and sister can find peace. |
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| 01:57:07 | <vrs> | f |
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| 04:04:19 | <coldpress_> | R.I.P. |
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| 10:46:56 | <Solid> | holy shit, Hash I'm very sorry for your loss |
| 10:49:10 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: I don't think pandoc-2.11 is needed to generate the manpage, it just happened to be the version I was using when I rebuild it in #258 |
| 10:49:53 | <Solid> | And I'm not sure what you mean by "it doesn't build in LTS 16", as it build just fine for me; do you mean that, for some reason, the CI can't build it? |
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| 11:30:52 | <Liskni_si> | Solid: that's truly weird, it doesn't build here |
| 11:31:40 | <Liskni_si> | there's pandoc 2.9 in LTS 16, and the current version of GenerateManpage requires pandoc 2.11, which has different API |
| 11:32:01 | <Liskni_si> | I can't see how you could build it with LTS 16 :-/ |
| 11:32:20 | <Solid> | Oo |
| 11:32:24 | <Solid> | that is weird indeed |
| 11:32:33 | <Liskni_si> | (apart from overriding pandoc in extra-deps in stack.yaml) |
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| 11:37:19 | <Solid> | oh, my zsh history tells me I actually build it with cabal instead of stack |
| 11:37:22 | <Solid> | well, nvmd then :) |
| 11:40:21 | <Liskni_si> | good, I'm not hallucinating or delusional then |
| 12:19:50 | <afreak> | trying the 'RefocusLast' module, it works nice with normal-floating-windows, but it does not seem to work with NamedScratchpad-floating-windows, is there something different you have to do to make it work with NamedScrathpad ? |
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| 13:09:26 | <afreak> | seems refocuslast only works if the floating window is being closed, not if its shifted to another workspace |
| 13:18:12 | <afreak> | lol it even says so in the module ^^ sorry |
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| 14:08:53 | <sillyKitty> | I'm having issues getting the prompts in Xmonad to work, after importing and binding xmonadPrompt to a keybinding, nothing happens, no errors in xmonad.error, I've confirmed it is not the keybinding by attaching a spawn instead of the prompt, not sure where to go from here |
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| 14:13:56 | <sillyKitty> | version is 0.15 running on arch if that makes any difference |
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| 14:26:52 | <Solid> | sillyKitty: have you given `xmonadPrompt' its required XPConfig argument? |
| 14:27:25 | <sillyKitty> | yup, I've used def, amberXPConfig, and greenXPConfig as well as modifying def, no go |
| 14:28:57 | <Solid> | as a sanity check, xmonad --recompile does not produce any errors, right? |
| 14:29:05 | <sillyKitty> | correct |
| 14:30:58 | <sillyKitty> | Ive also run it on a default config with no xmobar and it also doesn't appear anywhere |
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| 14:33:43 | <Solid> | that sounds truly weird |
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| 14:34:29 | <Solid> | can you check your xsession-log (or however it's called) |
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| 14:35:35 | <geekosaur> | that can mean a font is missing and it's throwing an exception |
| 14:36:06 | <geekosaur> | modern linux systems don't install the "fixed" bitmap font which is the default (and used to be part of base X11) |
| 14:36:20 | <sillyKitty> | I checked the /var/log/Xorg.* files and nothing there, but the font sounds plausable, hadn't considered that |
| 14:37:05 | <Solid> | depending on how you start your X server you may have to redirect things to your own log file |
| 14:37:54 | <Solid> | but the font thing sounds the most plausible; I remember reading some issue about arch and default fonts |
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| 14:41:39 | <sillyKitty> | yup, that was it, hardcoded a font in there and it started up ... then the whole thing froze, but I think I can probably debug that, thanks! |
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| 14:55:18 | <toniz4> | hello, it's possible to change the layouts name? I want to display a icon on my bar, instead of the name, like Tall or Full |
| 14:57:14 | <Solid> | toniz4: check out XMonad.Layout.Renamed |
| 15:00:00 | <toniz4> | Solid: Thanks! |
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| 15:23:55 | <toniz4> | I'm having a problem using this, when using an icon it doesn't work. Here is the error https://0x0.st/-zs1.txt |
| 15:27:01 | <Irishluck83> | is that a font awesome icon? |
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| 15:28:20 | <toniz4> | Irishluck83: nope, siji/stlarch |
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| 15:30:44 | <Solid> | try using "\57649" explicitly instead of the icon |
| 15:30:56 | <Solid> | (yes it's a hack, but it'll probably work ;) |
| 15:31:02 | <Irishluck83> | that i was thinking or to see if it had those |
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| 15:34:58 | <toniz4> | Solid: thanks again, it worked |
| 15:35:27 | <toniz4> | why that happened? Haskell don't support unicode 100%? |
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| 15:39:43 | <Irishluck83> | nope |
| 15:40:05 | <Irishluck83> | if you want something like that for your workspaces you need to do the same thing |
| 15:40:32 | <Solid> | GHC _should_ be completely UTF-8 compliant |
| 15:40:48 | <Solid> | but I remember string literals being kinda flaky sometimes |
| 15:40:59 | <Solid> | there are a few issues about this on gitlab, but all of them are closed |
| 15:41:11 | <Solid> | it's probably some unicode table somewhere that's out of date |
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| 16:59:48 | <geekosaur> | someone made the decision that string literals should not support private use area characters directly, only as escapes. :( |
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| 17:15:56 | <Liskni_si> | I do have to confess that the exchange with Peter has made me extremely demotivated. |
| 17:18:20 | <vrs> | eh your argument seems sound |
| 17:18:55 | <vrs> | if it fixes a build problem and simplifies dependencies, it's a measurable improvement |
| 17:22:00 | <Liskni_si> | The entirety of GenerateManpage could probably be a oneliner in sed or make or perl or something, yet here we are arguing which exact half a gig worth of deps is the best one to use. |
| 17:22:07 | <Liskni_si> | This is fuckin bollocks. |
| 17:22:14 | <Liskni_si> | (sorry for the language) |
| 17:35:16 | <vrs> | you could always be stuck arguing with a maintainer over irrelevant formatting details that only happen because they refuse to use an autoformatter |
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| 17:36:14 | <vrs> | "we have a style guide, but you'll have to style it all by hand, and yeah I'll make that a sticking point" |
| 17:37:27 | <Liskni_si> | I'd actually prefer that :-( |
| 17:37:31 | <Liskni_si> | or :-) |
| 17:41:51 | <Solid> | calling 8.8.x an old compiler is a bit... well, weird |
| 17:48:24 | <Solid> | and I don't really understand this pr |
| 17:49:19 | <Solid> | we switch to 8.10 because "development should take place withrecent versions of our dependencies", but we have to support the old GHC versions anyways |
| 17:49:52 | <Solid> | and what if a developer wants to update the man page, but their distro doesn't ship 8.10 yet? do they have to compile GHC themselves for that? |
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| 18:15:58 | <sfrique> | hello, is there a "better" way for running xmobars when changing number of monitor? For instance, I just want to start one xmobar if there is only 1 output, but star two if there is two. Right now it starts two all the time. |
| 18:16:29 | <geekosaur> | XMonad.Actions.DynamicBars? |
| 18:17:24 | <sfrique> | let me look! |
| 18:18:36 | <sfrique> | it seems it could do the trick, i will take a look. |
| 18:18:40 | <sfrique> | thanks! |
| 18:19:26 | <sfrique> | the other problem is related to salonetray, but i guess a simple restart with different configs should do the trick. If you know a way to do this in xmonad itself it would be good. |
| 18:19:53 | <sfrique> | I am currently going to use grobi to manage multi screens changes. Not sure if this is possible with xmonad itself |
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| 18:31:21 | <mc47> | What's the general feeling about using the combinator (.) . (.) ? :-) I'm tempted to use it in the PR I'm writing... |
| 18:31:55 | <Solid> | I like multivariant composition |
| 18:33:31 | <mc47> | I do too ! |
| 18:33:35 | <Solid> | and I think in the case of `(.) . (.)' (I've seen this being defined as `(.:)') it's easy enough to see what's going on |
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| 18:34:26 | <mc47> | I like that symbol too |
| 18:34:27 | <Solid> | but it's probably really easy to write unintelligible code with it :> |
| 18:35:12 | <mc47> | It's just f .: g I promise :D |
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| 18:35:31 | <Solid> | hah |
| 18:35:37 | <Solid> | in that case it seems fine |
| 18:35:45 | <mc47> | Nice! |
| 18:35:46 | <Solid> | (to me) |
| 18:36:22 | <mc47> | BTW, the issue I mentioned last time with "cleanupStatusBars" was completely avoidable |
| 18:43:50 | <Liskni_si> | So, um, is this (https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/261#issuecomment-757349330) person really telling me that I should cut out the ad hominem attacks? |
| 18:44:16 | <Liskni_si> | I was always bad at dealing with people, so I'd use a hint or something :-) |
| 18:44:22 | <Solid> | uff |
| 18:44:22 | <geekosaur> | their latest seems more like an ad hominem attack |
| 18:44:32 | <Solid> | maybe they're having a bad day or something |
| 18:45:04 | <Liskni_si> | Maybe I should give this a break, yeah. |
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| 18:53:28 | <Solid> | I feel like if you do this issue will just stay open for months without any resolution :/ |
| 18:54:05 | <Liskni_si> | I meant waiting a few days. |
| 18:54:49 | <Liskni_si> | I think it's pretty clear the problem has been acknowledged by now. We just need to calm down the discussion and agree upon an approach to solving it. |
| 18:55:15 | <Solid> | ah I see |
| 18:55:23 | <Solid> | yeah that sounds reasonable |
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