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| 07:44:19 | <Solid> | xacktm: you can make a conditional managehook |
| 07:44:58 | <Solid> | X.H.ManageHelpers.currentWs can, for example, be used to query the current workspace |
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| 14:03:05 | <Liskni_si> | mc47: I probably won't get to taking a look any time soon, sorry |
| 14:05:26 | <Liskni_si> | opening github doesn't spark joy any more :-/ |
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| 14:15:04 | <Solid> | I don't think anyone can fault you for that... |
| 14:15:33 | <Solid> | I was hoping this was gonna get resolved semi-quickly |
| 14:16:34 | <mc47> | it's definitely understandable... no rush, I only observed what happened and it made me feel bad |
| 14:17:43 | <mc47> | you don't need to apologize ;) |
| 14:17:54 | <Liskni_si> | yeah, well, expectations usually lead to disappointment |
| 14:18:22 | <Liskni_si> | I always remind myself this, and then still expect and disappoint |
| 14:19:04 | <Liskni_si> | so I'll just spend time elsewhere, and time will heal |
| 14:19:27 | <mc47> | would've done the same if I were you |
| 14:21:01 | <Solid> | I'm still hoping someone "will do the right thing" :/ |
| 14:22:02 | <mc47> | I always assumed when a conflict would arise, it would've been resolved somewhat "democratically", at least in the maintainer circle |
| 14:22:05 | <mc47> | oh well |
| 14:22:19 | <mc47> | It's unfortunate |
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| 14:22:47 | <Liskni_si> | these structures are way more brittle than one might expect |
| 14:23:55 | <Liskni_si> | especially here, where most maintainers are AWOL |
| 14:24:06 | <Liskni_si> | and I'm not a people person at all |
| 14:24:31 | <Liskni_si> | I've seen enough in my life that the only thing I'm sure about is that I can never tell right from wrong |
| 14:25:01 | <Liskni_si> | so even though you two perhaps believe my side is the correct one, I don't |
| 14:25:23 | <Liskni_si> | anyway, let's not get too sentimental |
| 14:27:18 | <Liskni_si> | even before it all went sideways, I sent an email to the list ccing Adam Sjøgren who wanted to refactor generatemanpage and ccing the debian maintainers |
| 14:27:49 | <Liskni_si> | if/when they reply, it might be easier to tell what's real and what's not |
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| 14:28:50 | <mc47> | Technically I'm not sure what's the right thing to do |
| 14:29:14 | <mc47> | but the way the conflict was handled is kinda an abuse of power (which isn't justified) |
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| 14:33:58 | <Liskni_si> | It's just weird. There's probably some hidden context somewhere that might explain it, or something. |
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| 14:37:35 | <Solid> | I can see that peti worked quite a bit on that file; maybe he just doesn't want all of that work "to have been for nothing"? I don't know |
| 14:38:17 | <Solid> | but quite frankly I think, regardless of who was "right", that there has been an injustice here |
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| 14:38:52 | <Solid> | it's quite telling that the only reason why this didn't turn into a gigantic shitshow is that you showed restraint and didn't revert that commit |
| 14:39:49 | <Liskni_si> | and that's because I've seen a nontrivial amount of such shitshows, and I've been on the wrong side several times :-) |
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| 14:40:19 | <Liskni_si> | it's a learning opportunity :-) |
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| 14:41:07 | <vrs> | I haven't looked close enough to have an actual technical opinion, but the charitable interpretation of peti's actions is that he forced the issue instead of letting it fester |
| 14:42:29 | <Liskni_si> | (the most recent one was a month ago where an ex-colleague of mine who is definitely much further on the spectrum than I am went full berserk on pulseaudio devs after 2 years or work on bluetooth codecs, and I tried to salvage the effort) |
| 14:43:13 | <Liskni_si> | (being able to hear opinions of both sides was pretty interesting) |
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