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00:39:03 <andytoshi> is there a way i can setxkbmap specifically for a specific program? without modifying my actual keyboard
00:43:26 <andytoshi> oh! i got it, i just needed to do `setxkbmap -device=5` where 5 is the ID of the "Virtual core XTEST keyboard"
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14:05:26 <Tanish2002> Hello I recently started using xmonad and I'm liking it so far.. but i have a little problem.. I use google meet daily for classes and when I try to share my screen(just a app) it doesn't show up in the list if it's in some other workspace but If i move the app to the same workspace then it works.. I tried this with discord as well and it was same
14:05:27 <Tanish2002> there as well.. from what I could find I think that xmonad doesn't keep windows mapped when changing the workspace.. so my question is that if I can somehow change that behaviour?
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14:12:00 <vrs> afaik that's pretty fundamental to how xmonad works but there might be some hack around it
14:12:40 <vrs> some kind of virtual or actual external screen maybe
14:14:13 <Tanish2002> ye I can understand that's how xmonad works but it's still pretty annoying to keep moving windows only so that I can share them
14:14:32 <Liskni_si> I wonder if this works in other wms?
14:15:37 <Tanish2002> yes it worked on awesome
14:16:37 <Tanish2002> I was using awesome before but it's very slow and has a very high cpu usage... so I switched to xmonad which feels very snappy compared to it and the cpu usage is pretty good as well
14:17:49 <Solid> I wonder what would happen if you simply mapped the window
14:19:11 <Tanish2002> wdym? sorry if I sound dumb I don't know much haskell and I'm learning it through xmonad only
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14:20:07 <Tanish2002> https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm/issues/478 apparently bspwm has a issue for this as well..🤔
14:20:35 <Solid> nono don't worry I was mainly talking into the void :) I haven't looked into this side of X11 much really
14:20:54 <Tanish2002> ah ok
14:21:22 <Solid> but according to "dwm uses the dirty hack: it doesn't map/unmap anything" it might actually work
14:22:05 <Solid> but it would be a very dirty hack (and might require writing haskell, I don't know how much because I havent quite thought it through :)
14:22:29 <Solid> funny that I've never run into this issue
14:22:50 <Solid> but I always have a second monitor connected when I screenshare I think so the window I want is always mapped that way
14:23:35 <Tanish2002> i don't really care if it's a hack as long as it works coz online classes are going to end some day but again I don't really know much haskell to even code a hack'=(
14:23:50 <Liskni_si> oh, it seems gnome (mutter) uses that hack as well
14:24:51 <Liskni_si> which means I was wrong when I told the chromium devs yesterday that checking the map state is enough to tell whether a browser window needs redrawing or not
14:24:59 <Liskni_si> and that means they'll never implement it
14:25:13 <Liskni_si> and I'll be stuck with hundreds of wakeups per second until the end of time
14:25:16 <Liskni_si> fuck this stupid world.
14:25:19 <Solid> :/
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17:24:10 <afreak> is it possible to do something like this https://github.com/i3/i3/pull/2231 in xmonad ? setting some x property to all floating windows
17:32:35 <fizzie> Just speculating, I don't think there's a hook to do it without patching XMonad itself (to be fair, that's an i3 patch), but I imagine you'd get pretty close simply by having a (sequenced last) ManageHook to set the property initially, and adding a call to keep that up to date in any key/mouse bindings you've got that can toggle floating-ness.
17:35:24 <afreak> fizzie: i havent really seen any functions that can be used for setting window properties, have you?
17:36:02 <afreak> or do you mean having xmonad run maybe `xprop -id x -set something`
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17:37:01 <fizzie> No, you'd just use the X11 functions. I don't know if there's any convenience utilities for *setting* properties though.
17:37:32 <Solid> there's changeProperty{8,16,32}
17:38:10 <fizzie> Yeah. The only xmonad-contrib convenience thing that I see is XMonad.Util.StringProp, which is limited to setting string properties on the root window, but that's what it uses under the hood.
17:39:36 <afreak> aha nice, then I would only need a event that runs when windows gets spawned, or when windows gets toggled floating/tiling :p
17:41:24 <fizzie> That'd be the latter half of my comment (as an approximation, since I don't think there's such an event).
17:44:18 <fizzie> (It's not like it's an X11 event that XMonad changes its mind about whether a window's floating or not. Though often -- but not always -- there'd be a geometry change associated with it.)
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17:46:58 <Solid> the logHook runs on an internal state change, which would include adding a window to the floating map, no?
17:47:46 <geekosaur> yes, but it doesn't tell you what state changed
17:48:18 <fizzie> Yeah, I guess if you want to enumerate over the whole stackset on loghook.
17:52:53 <Solid> lots of logHooks do that already, so probably not too worrysome :>
18:01:53 <fizzie> You'd possibly want to cache what you last set the property to, if you go that way.
18:02:56 <Solid> lots of modules don't even do that
18:03:02 <Solid> but I don't know how expensive `getAtom' is
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