Logs on 2021-01-17 (freenode/#xmonad)
| 00:00:10 | <aplainzetakind> | keyBindings <+> (keys desktopConfig) |
| 00:00:19 | <aplainzetakind> | I'm trying to see how it behaves. |
| 00:02:20 | <aplainzetakind> | Weird. |
| 00:02:39 | <aplainzetakind> | I don't get that swapping, but most workspaces there are empty. |
| 00:03:44 | <aplainzetakind> | They're like a separate set of workspaces. |
| 00:03:55 | <fizzie> | Yes, that's what IndependentScreens does. |
| 00:04:29 | <fizzie> | You could even say they two sets of workspaces are "independent", eh. |
| 00:05:29 | <aplainzetakind> | :) |
| 00:05:58 | <aplainzetakind> | So I can't duplicate a workspace in each screen? |
| 00:06:42 | <fizzie> | No. It's not really a window manager limitation, it's an X limitation. You can't map a single window to more than one place. (Others can probably express this better.) |
| 00:08:14 | <aplainzetakind> | That's annoying. |
| 00:09:07 | <aplainzetakind> | So how do I send clients across screens then? M-S-# just moves them around in the current screen. |
| 00:09:45 | <fizzie> | M-S-{w,e,r} are I think the default keybindings for moving a window to screen 1/2/3. |
| 00:09:58 | <aplainzetakind> | Oh right. |
| 00:10:01 | <aplainzetakind> | Thanks. |
| 00:12:29 | <fizzie> | I started with IndependentScreens when (quite a while ago) moving from awesomewm to XMonad, since it was the model I had gotten used to, but eventually switched to XMonad's native model; it's just more convenient to be able to show a specific workspace on any screen, without "manually" moving all its windows; also less to reason about when there's just the one set of workspaces; and less running into |
| 00:12:35 | <fizzie> | unexpected interactions IndependentScreens has with other XMonad modules that weren't expecting it. |
| 00:12:39 | <fizzie> | (But this is all for the traditional multi-monitor use case.) |
| 00:13:45 | <aplainzetakind> | So with a single physical monitor, if I want to send something to v4l2loopback, and don't want it to be affected when I skip around workspaces on my actual screen, is there a way? |
| 00:14:37 | <aplainzetakind> | That's my intended use case atm. |
| 00:15:36 | <aplainzetakind> | Of course I also want to be able to see what I'm doing with that broadcasting client on my screen when I'm not away on other workspaces. |
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| 00:32:09 | <fizzie> | I can't think of any obvious way of doing that. Which is not to say there isn't any. |
| 00:32:17 | <fizzie> | One *hypothetical* way would be to do something similar to IndependentScreens where that virtual monitor has its own dedicated workspace (or a set if you like), but when you want to see what's happening on that screen, instead of trying to make XMonad do it with workspaces, you'd use XRandR to temporarily mirror that (virtual) screen to your real one. But I'm not sure how that'd mess up things, if it also |
| 00:32:23 | <fizzie> | causes the Xinerama screen count to change. |
| 00:32:56 | <fizzie> | (I'm kind of glad the only screen-sharing I ever need to do is Google Meet's "share this specific Chrome tab", because that plays perfectly reasonably with XMonad.) |
| 00:37:08 | <fizzie> | Or buy another monitor, then you can just turn your head when you want to see what's happening on it. ;) |
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| 08:07:47 | <hoijui> | I am using xmonad since about a year. now I installed updates and recompiled it again since a long time. |
| 08:08:45 | <hoijui> | It still runs, but when I start the first application, a white bar appears on the top of the application window, and the applications border is constantly blinking (i guess that indicates .. resizing?) |
| 08:09:18 | <hoijui> | the bar is completely white, nothing in it, and it stays, even after closing the application |
| 08:09:35 | <hoijui> | I have no idea how to debug this |
| 08:11:05 | <hoijui> | eventually, when opening and closing mutliple applications, and changeing layouts, I get to 50+% CPU usage just with xmonad, without any application being open |
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| 11:21:08 | <lonelyfroginvent> | hi I'm using xmonad with xkfce de but xfce 4 panel has wrong number of workspaces. panel config doesnt affect it nor does xmonad workspace cfg |
| 11:22:16 | <lonelyfroginvent> | any ideas how to fix it? Or any other DE suggestions ? Plasma is nice but krunner and other plasma stuff only shows if you click/press hard enough |
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| 23:40:48 | <ADG1089__> | how can i add an app icon to the tabs layout |
| 23:40:59 | <ADG1089__> | is there a way to get app icons in x11? |
| 23:44:26 | <fizzie> | There's an (optional) _NET_WM_ICON property in the EWMH spec. I think it's pretty commonly set. No idea about getting it into XMonad layouts though. |
| 23:44:54 | ← | aplainzetakind parts (~johndoe@captainludd.powered.by.lunarbnc.net) () |
| 23:45:03 | <fizzie> | (A survey with N=3: Chrome and Steam have it set, urxvt doesn't.) |
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| 23:46:11 | <ADG1089> | how can i add icon in xmobar for current app? |
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| 23:58:50 | <ADG1089__> | can i use _NET_WM_ICON to set the icon in xmobar? |
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