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09:35:42 <hoijui_> is it possible, to test an xmonad config in a second, temporary X server, while the first one keeps running as is?
09:36:39 <Liskni_si> hoijui_: yes, ctrl-alt-f1 or fsomething, log in, startx xmonad
09:37:00 <Liskni_si> you could also run Xephyr in your existing X server
09:39:28 <hoijui_> Liskni_si, thanks! :-) easier then I imagines... I'll try
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10:11:53 <Liskni_si> ?tell geekosaur May I ask you to take a look at https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/406? It's been more than 4 years since I initially proposed to initialize the cache lazily, and I still believe there are way more pros than cons.
10:11:53 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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11:04:13 <hoijui_> Liskni_si, I tried both ways, but the first one served me better (as with Xephyr, Win-key-bindings go to the parent session, not the one I am testing)
11:04:40 <hoijui_> it served me well! allowed me to trouble-shoot much faster, and got my faulty config fixed. :-)
11:05:14 <hoijui_> thanks again! :-)
11:05:21 <hoijui_> and tschauuu!
11:06:18 <hoijui_> (btw, the problem was, that I had to define 3 missing variables in my Theme config: (active|inactive|urgent)BorderWidth
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12:08:42 <Liskni_si> mc47, Solid: I need to add some unit tests for NoBorders and possibly SubLayouts, but I haven't been watching the Haskell ecosystem very much the last 4 years, do you guys know what's the current optinion about hspec, test-framework, tasty, etc.?
12:08:55 <Liskni_si> input from anyone else around here obviously welcome as well!
12:11:19 <mc47> Liskni_si sorry, no idea! I've only used haskell "in production" in XMonad, the rest of my (one year) experience with Haskell is through uni and a bit of hacking alone
12:22:19 <Solid> Liskni_si: hspec or tasty pretty much; don't think there's much "functional" difference between the two
12:22:36 <Solid> I've always found hspec "more intuitive" in some way; so I've always defaulted to using that
12:23:44 <Solid> (But disclaimer that I too am a baby and only have like 2-ish years of Haskell experience :)
12:24:09 <Solid> But I guess that means I don't know any "outdated" libraries, which may be a bonus :>
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13:55:33 <geekosaur> wow, that's a pretty significant bug in the web client. it keeps putting lambdabot on ignore because the first thing it did was message me. I can turn it off but witch tabs and it turns it back on again
13:55:56 <geekosaur> had to dig though the log to find who @message-d me
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13:59:18 <psibi[m]> Liskni_si: I would just stick with hspec. There is also sydtest which is very nice, but I don't understand it's licensing good enough to know if it can be used in open source projects.
14:01:43 <Liskni_si> psibi[m]: oh, yeah, I saw sydtest on twitter and completely forgot about it
14:01:47 <Liskni_si> https://github.com/NorfairKing/sydtest#features--comparison-to-similar-projects is ♥
14:02:03 <Liskni_si> so yeah, hspec seems to be a very reasonable compromise!
14:09:55 <Liskni_si> Solid: how did you reproduce the problem that #447 fixes? I can't reproduce it here
14:10:16 <Liskni_si> tried cliking into another terminal, tried clicking into a gtk app, focus is still in prompt
14:12:30 <Solid> Liskni_si: are you using either `clickJustFocuses' or `updatePointer'? These are two settings that we know don't cause the issue
14:14:34 <Liskni_si> Solid: oh, I'll try disabling clickJustFocuses
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15:00:52 <Liskni_si> I can reproduce it, but it's totally weird
15:01:29 <Liskni_si> when I click somewhere, the events just stop coming, and there's no FocusOut or anything
15:02:25 <Liskni_si> but they're not coming to the window I click on either
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15:47:33 <Liskni_si> oh!
15:48:35 <Liskni_si> (I now fully understand it and I'll comment on $447)
15:48:37 <Liskni_si> #
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18:02:02 <geekosaur> wow. I must have been doing poorly
18:02:19 <geekosaur> not that I'm enormously better now, but.
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21:43:49 <Liskni_si> well it didn't turn into us hating each other so all is well
21:43:53 <Liskni_si> anyway
21:44:30 <Liskni_si> geekosaur: shall I take this as a confirmation that the strut cache PR is okay or do you want more time to think about it?
21:44:48 <geekosaur> I thought I said it was okay in the PR
21:45:03 <Liskni_si> oh all right, I wasn't sure how to interpret it :-)
21:48:47 <wz1000> it seems like there's been a significant uptick in activity recently
21:51:40 <geekosaur> we'r ehoping to make a release before debian freezes
21:52:24 <wz1000> I mean in general, from user contributions over the last year or so
21:53:09 <geekosaur> we go through waves. someone mentions xmonad somewhere, we get a fresh influx of new users and activity
21:53:37 <geekosaur> then gradual attrition s people settle on configs they like and drift away from the community :/
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