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07:45:20 <AusCyber> hi
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07:47:59 <AusCyber> has anyone ever tried to make Lenses for StackSet?
07:48:26 <AusCyber> I was going to do it anyone for my extension but I wondered if anyone had already done it?
07:51:59 <Solid> Liskni_si: done! I think doing things in handleOther is quite elegant and so I went with that for the prompt; treeselect, however, doesn't have such a function and so I went with the other approach there
07:52:53 <Solid> AusCyber: the answer to "has anyone ever done X with xmonad" is probably yes :)
07:53:29 <Solid> I remember augmenting the StackSet with lenses once; it was even possible to do this in a nicely backwards compatible way by deriving them with generic-lens
07:53:39 <Solid> but frankly these dependencies are quite massive
07:54:04 <AusCyber> Control.Lens is already in xmonad-contrib
07:55:07 <AusCyber> If i did make Lenses would that be a worth contribution to xmonad or xmonad-contrib
07:55:52 <Solid> the StackSet is defined in xmonad though
07:55:57 <Solid> not in contrib
07:56:13 <AusCyber> im not talking about like editing StackSet
07:56:16 <Solid> and generic-lens has a whole bunch of TH dependencies on its own
07:56:22 <AusCyber> just manually typing in lenses
07:56:29 <AusCyber> for every single part of stackset
07:57:38 <Solid> that still sounds like something that should belong to where the StackSet is actually defined
07:57:49 <AusCyber> so i should add it to xmonad ?
07:58:26 <Solid> if anything then yes
07:58:38 <Solid> but as I said I'm not sure how feasible adding lens as an xmonad dependency is
07:59:41 <AusCyber> maybe just not not adding them as a depdendency
07:59:51 <AusCyber> but just making them functions
07:59:54 <AusCyber> like what a lens is
08:00:01 <AusCyber> like just purely defined
08:00:15 <AusCyber> so in contrib modules u can use the lens package to actually manipulate them
08:02:47 <Solid> how is lens a dependency in contrib btw? I can't find it in the dependency list
08:02:51 <Solid> is it transitive?
08:04:34 <AusCyber> i think something relies on it
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08:10:19 <AusCyber> wait no maybe it doesnt rely on lens
08:10:42 <AusCyber> anyway i could just make a simple lens library and add that
08:10:50 <AusCyber> with different names
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08:13:47 <Solid> microlens exists, but at that point I would question the validity of the whole endeavour
08:14:12 <Solid> I'm just some guy on IRC of course but, as much as I love lenses to death, I don't think they're a good fit here
08:14:23 <Solid> but feel free to wait for other people to respond
08:17:10 <AusCyber> nah there still is the point as this means people can interact easier with the StackSet
08:17:30 <AusCyber> I'm working on multiple Workspace Set kinda thing
08:17:38 <AusCyber> and nested record updates is very annoying
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13:29:49 <Solid> <Liskni_si> that dynamic icons PR, would that work as a separate module? looks like it might, in which case they might mark themselves as a maintainer and we wouldn't need to worry about consistent code quality with the rest of DynamicLog >> I think it would work as a separate module yeah
13:31:35 <Solid> But I think we're also *almost* there in terms of code; we just need to fix some redefinitions of things already exposed by the StackSet, some trailing spaces, maybe add some strictness annotations...
13:32:02 <Solid> I'm also not clear on why `NameSet' needs to hold a type variable, as it's not really used in the code
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15:17:44 <Liskni_si> there was another PR recently that added some dynamic something based on the workspace windows, that seems related
15:18:00 <Liskni_si> and NameSet could use some docs/examples, last time I checked
15:24:30 <Solid> true that
15:25:04 <Solid> ...I'm beginning to see the benefits of your suggestion :P
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17:05:23 <Solid> fixing bugs feels good
17:05:25 <Solid> I'm happy
17:05:55 <Liskni_si> :-)
17:06:30 <Liskni_si> it was an awesome team effort!
17:07:38 <Liskni_si> (and I wanted to say that I love how you pick existing issues and PRs one after another and deal with them; that's really helpful; I'm swamped by my own troubles and barely keep up with the new stuff)
17:07:46 <Solid> definitely! thanks again :)
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17:10:30 <Solid> I have (mostly) managed to convince my brain that working on some issue/pr is a much better way of procrastinating than hanging around on reddit or something :>
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18:36:23 <Solid> huh?
18:39:47 <geekosaur> "If yes then I will try to find some time this as thoroughly as I can"
18:45:26 <Solid> oh
18:45:40 <Solid> haha, I should fix that yes
18:46:17 <Solid> thanks
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20:05:37 <andi_> hello i got a question regarding xmobar, i want to use the Run MultiCpu option, but if i read the exmaple correct with the template [ "--template", "Cpu: <total0> % | <total1> %" i just see the workload of cpu0 and cpu1, now i have more cpus, is there a way to combine them into one value?
20:05:43 <andi_> other than Run Cmd?
20:07:53 Liskni_si is quite happy with "--template", "<autovbar>", "--", "--contiguous-icons"
20:08:27 <andi_> Liskni_si: would you share your xmobarrc?
20:08:34 <Liskni_si> which doesn't answer your question, but I'd still suggest to try that, as it's quite compact and provides excellent information density
20:08:50 <Liskni_si> andi_: https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/home/.xmonad/.xmobarrc
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20:10:01 <andi_> thank you i'll have a quick look
20:14:12 <andi_> Liskni_si: so if i see this correct it's a load-bar?
20:14:41 <Liskni_si> andi_: it's one vertical bar for each CPU
20:15:08 <Liskni_si> I wouldn't use the word "load" as that is a terminus technicus related to something unrelated to CPU usage
20:15:32 <andi_> so my cpus are basically dead right now :)
20:15:54 <andi_> but that's way more handy than the % for each core
20:15:57 <Liskni_si> (unrelated is probably an overstatement, should've said something different)
20:16:12 <Liskni_si> yeah, it's % for each core but takes much less space
20:16:14 <andi_> Liskni_si: it's also just physical cores right?
20:16:25 <Liskni_si> mine shows hyperthreads
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20:17:55 <Liskni_si> last time I checked, hyperthreading was disabled in Linux by default by cpu vulnerability mitigations, so if you're only seeing physical cores, maybe that's all you have right now :-)
20:19:11 <geekosaur> I think that's false since I show two CPUs on this machine and I'm quite sure it's not multicore :)
20:19:27 <Liskni_si> it's possible the default has changes since
20:20:51 <geekosaur> (pretty sure this machine is older than some of the people in this channel)
20:21:34 <Liskni_si> the machine being old probably means it's not vulnerable to the stuff that disabling SMT is meant to mitigate
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21:08:42 <andi_> may i ask again if there's an option like Liskni_si said for the cputemp?
21:10:36 <andi_> https://paste.xinu.at/eV60Xz/ that's my config so far
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21:19:48 <Liskni_si> andi_: https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/blob/master/doc/plugins.org#multicoretemp-args-refreshrate
21:20:52 <Liskni_si> Solid: ^^ the plugins.org file is not linked from readme.org, so even though I knew exactly what I'm looking for, it took me >1min to find it :-(
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21:27:37 <Liskni_si> Fetched 91.8 MB in 21min 20s (71.7 kB/s)
21:27:57 <Liskni_si> I wonder if ppa.launchpad.net is throttling github actions or if this is just an intermittent issue
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22:57:36 <DrEuclidean> anyone here
22:58:02 <Liskni_si> lots
22:58:10 <DrEuclidean> awesome
22:58:27 <DrEuclidean> i'm having trouble with it
22:58:35 <DrEuclidean> I'm running FreeBSD
22:58:49 <DrEuclidean> ghc --make .xmonad works
22:59:08 <DrEuclidean> its chown-ed to my user
22:59:15 <DrEuclidean> and it recompiled
22:59:21 <DrEuclidean> yet it does not read the config
22:59:52 <DrEuclidean> i meant ghc --make .xmonad.hs works
23:00:02 <DrEuclidean> sry no leading dot there
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23:04:01 <Liskni_si> I don't think you're supposed to recompile it like that
23:04:44 <Liskni_si> it should recompile the config itself, and when it does that, the output file has platform and arch in its name
23:05:14 <DrEuclidean> i read the `hc --make xmonad.hs' is merely to catch errors
23:05:26 <Liskni_si> there's also xmonad --recompile, which I never tried, but I'd guess if you run that, you might get an idea what's wrong with the automatic recompile
23:06:39 <Liskni_si> and then there's also been some bugs in the code that looks for xmonad.hs, as it could either go in ~/.xmonad or ~/.config/xmonad and something was wrong with that, perhaps you're hitting this issue
23:08:22 <DrEuclidean> hmm, so I should move it to one of these rather than `~/.xmonad/' ?
23:08:41 <DrEuclidean> recompiling the way you said exits successfully, but says: xmonad-x86_64-freebsd: executeFile: does not exist
23:09:12 <DrEuclidean> xmonad opens, but does not make the boarder 3 pixels, etc.
23:10:29 <Liskni_si> well I'm not saying you should move it
23:10:50 <Liskni_si> just... that it might be related, and that you might check if you perhaps have both of them as that might cause problems
23:13:58 <DrEuclidean> i entered `ln -s ~/.xmonad ~/.config/xmonad' and it didn't fix it
23:16:04 <DrEuclidean> no I didn't have both prior
23:18:30 <Liskni_si> then that likely isn't that bug
23:18:47 <Liskni_si> maybe look whether you have .local/share/xmonad or something
23:18:58 <Liskni_si> but if you don't, then this isn't it, you can remove the symlink, and look elsewhere
23:19:22 <DrEuclidean> what directory is `.local/share/xmonad' in?
23:19:28 <Liskni_si> ~/.local/…
23:19:51 <Liskni_si> I don't even know if that kind of thing is used in freebsd at all, actually
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23:20:22 <DrEuclidean> I don't have it in home
23:21:24 <Liskni_si> then forget I ever said anything about it.
23:21:28 <DrEuclidean> i don't even have a ~/.local
23:24:36 <DrEuclidean> i ran `ghc -v --make .xmonad.hs' and it has the line:
23:25:19 <DrEuclidean> Loading package environment from /home/ldve/.ghc/x86_64-freebsd-8.10.2/environments/default
23:25:54 <DrEuclidean> this exists
23:27:40 <DrEuclidean> it also says `Skipping Main ( /home/ldve/.xmonad/xmonad.hs
23:28:04 <DrEuclidean> it says that a bunch of times next to each other
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23:33:09 <Liskni_si> I have to admit I got completely lost
23:33:58 <DrEuclidean> don't worry abt it I don't think it's the issue
23:34:08 <Liskni_si> if you could put together a coherent description of what you're exactly doing, what the exact outputs are, some "ps axf" or something that shows which exact xmonad binary is being run, etc. and put that to some pastebin or something, that might be best
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23:34:45 <DrEuclidean> kk
23:44:05 <DrEuclidean> https://www.mediafire.com/file/40xrps57cz9lmuz/xmonad_recompile/file
23:44:56 <DrEuclidean> https://www.mediafire.com/file/er7386hr87r0nwx/ghc_make_xmonad/file
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23:56:51 <DrEuclidean> okay I got it--I renamed ~/.xmonad/xmonad -> ~/.xmonad/xmonad-x86_64-freebsd
23:57:44 <DrEuclidean> even being passed --recompile it works and doens't even recreate the xmonad executable, just keeps it with the new name
23:57:46 <DrEuclidean> weird shit
23:58:05 <DrEuclidean> should I like submit this to the devs?
23:58:08 <Liskni_si> it seems you have ~/.xmonad/build
23:58:24 <Liskni_si> which is supposed to compile it into ~/.xmonad/xmonad-x86_64-freebsd, but apparently it does not
23:59:46 <DrEuclidean> build seems only to create the xmonad-config
23:59:56 <DrEuclidean> this si the value of EXE_NAME

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