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| 16:16:30 | <deppy> | hi, is there a way to bind a key to using a specific layout? |
| 16:16:34 | <deppy> | rather than cycling |
| 16:20:37 | <Liskni_si> | deppy: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-LayoutCombinators.html |
| 16:20:43 | <Liskni_si> | look for "JumpToLayout" |
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| 16:26:13 | <deppy> | hmm |
| 16:26:50 | <deppy> | Liskni_si: this works for setting to stuff like Full which I haven't applied any modifiers to, but how to I set to layouts which I have modified |
| 16:27:25 | <deppy> | I have a layout `applySpacing tiled` |
| 16:27:35 | <deppy> | where tiled is just Tall with some values set |
| 16:27:47 | <deppy> | and I cant jump to that layout |
| 16:28:19 | <Liskni_si> | deppy: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-Renamed.html |
| 16:28:47 | <deppy> | oh yeah, just noticed |
| 16:28:49 | <Liskni_si> | you want the "Replace" |
| 16:28:53 | <deppy> | I'm blind |
| 16:28:58 | <Liskni_si> | these docs could use an improvement |
| 16:29:37 | <deppy> | I've found them to be quite nice overall :> |
| 16:29:40 | <deppy> | thanks for the help! |
| 16:29:44 | <Liskni_si> | JumpToLayout should mention Renamed, and Renamed should have an example with Replace and JumpToLayout |
| 16:30:59 | <geekosaur> | I thought JumpToLayout already mentioned Renamed, it just needs to be more obvious |
| 16:31:26 | <geekosaur> | hm, maybe it just mentions the mechanism by which Renamed works, but not that there's already a module fir it |
| 16:32:03 | <Liskni_si> | it mentions Named, which is deprecated in favor of Renamed |
| 16:32:09 | <Liskni_si> | so yeah, it's not that bad :-) |
| 16:34:17 | <deppy> | it works how I want it now, great! |
| 16:51:56 | <Liskni_si> | Solid, mc47[m]: https://github.com/orgs/xmonad/projects/2 |
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| 16:52:35 | <Liskni_si> | just an experiment, seems to be quite ugly and impractical: can't hide the labels or make it more compact, can't set it to auto-add milestones |
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| 16:53:14 | <Liskni_si> | I think it's meant as an alternative to milestones, not something that integrates with them :-/ |
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| 17:06:08 | <Solid> | Liskni_si: it seems good for getting a first overview of what has to be done |
| 17:06:11 | <Solid> | so thanks :) |
| 17:15:22 | <geekosaur> | latest X11 commit reminds me, at what point do we migrate from libxinerama to the equivalent functionality in xrandr? |
| 17:16:26 | <geekosaur> | not, I suppose, that they will bother to deprecate or remove the xinerama entry points |
| 17:16:59 | <Liskni_si> | is there any reason to do that? |
| 17:17:38 | <geekosaur> | not if they don't bother to remove the old ones. but libxinerama is already deprecated |
| 17:18:03 | <geekosaur> | even for the low level functions we use, there are equivalents in libxrandr |
| 17:18:52 | <Liskni_si> | where does it say that it's deprecated? |
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| 17:20:25 | <geekosaur> | uh, xinerama's been deprecated since X11R7 or thenabouts? practically everyone else has already migrated to the new functions |
| 17:21:41 | <geekosaur> | I'm just not sure if anyone will bother to follow through since they're all so certain it'll be irrelevant "soon" |
| 17:22:37 | <Liskni_si> | well, I can't find any mention of it :-( |
| 17:40:54 | <Liskni_si> | Solid, mc47[m]: I went through issues and PRs and milestones and cleaned it up and added to the project |
| 17:40:59 | <Liskni_si> | 16 items WIP |
| 17:41:07 | <Liskni_si> | no wonder I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed :-) |
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| 17:43:56 | <mc47> | thanks liskin[m] for taking the initiative on that |
| 17:44:56 | <mc47> | The "In Progress" column seems a bit scary, maybe we subdivide it more? |
| 17:45:15 | <mc47> | Maybe a "Reviewing" and "Approved" columns? |
| 17:45:27 | <Liskni_si> | there was an option to create a board that separates reviewed stuff |
| 17:45:41 | <Liskni_si> | I thought we wouldn't need it, and now I don't know how to add that :-/ |
| 17:45:59 | <Liskni_si> | let me try a bit harder :-) |
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| 17:59:45 | <Liskni_si> | Okay, I added two other columns. Let's see how it behaves. |
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| 18:01:10 | <Liskni_si> | It's a bit confusing that some of the PRs in "To merge" are waiting for something, but the only way to find out is to read the comments in there. :-/ |
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| 18:04:11 | <deppy> | Is there a function which returns the screen the focused window belongs to? |
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| 18:06:06 | <geekosaur> | withWindowSet (W.screen . W.current) |
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| 18:23:42 | <mc47> | it does look better |
| 18:26:31 | <Liskni_si> | we could have a "blocked" label, maybe |
| 18:27:29 | <Liskni_si> | but touching the labels is out of scope for this little procrastination project :-) |
| 18:32:30 | <deppy> | hmm, I'm trying to create binds to let me cycle through screens rather than specifyig a specific one |
| 18:33:21 | <deppy> | so the way I'd like to do this is to get a screen id then increment or decrement it and take it modulo the number of screens, then get the workspace of that screen so I can for instance move a window |
| 18:33:29 | <deppy> | would this be a good approach? |
| 18:33:56 | <deppy> | and if so how would I get the focused screens id and the number of screens |
| 18:34:23 | <geekosaur> | screen ids are not guaranteed to be monotonic, sadly |
| 18:34:30 | <Liskni_si> | deppy: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Actions-CycleWS.html#g:4 |
| 18:34:52 | <geekosaur> | xinerama delivers fun stuff like duplicate screen specs with different screen numbers, the core drops the duplicates |
| 18:34:57 | <deppy> | ooo |
| 18:35:03 | <deppy> | Liskni_si: excellent |
| 18:35:15 | <deppy> | geekosaur: ah, that's a shame |
| 18:37:35 | <fizzie> | (XMonad.Actions.PhysicalScreens could be useful to get screen IDs in a reasonable order. I guess that's not used by default by CycleWS's nextScreen though?) |
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| 19:13:36 | <timakro> | Hi, I very much like https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-Groups.html but I wonder if it's possible to have new windows open up in their own group, the same way it works with SubLayouts. Maybe the manage hook could be used to split the window out of it's group immediately? |
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| 21:27:27 | <mc47> | does freezing X.H.DynamicLog comes under breaking changes ? :) |
| 21:38:39 | <Liskni_si> | I think it doesn't need to, but it might be nice to write a "notable changed" section for 0.17 later |
| 21:38:45 | <Liskni_si> | *changes |
| 21:39:12 | <Liskni_si> | (the PR stuff, for release announcement, etc.) |
| 21:43:38 | <mc47> | yeah definitely |
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