Logs on 2021-04-22 (freenode/#xmonad)
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| 05:13:08 | <Solid> | this is yet another CoC that boils down to "don't be an asshole, please" and yet people still have a problem with it |
| 05:13:11 | <Solid> | sigh |
| 05:14:04 | <Solid> | maybe the internet hasn't radicalized me enough to find offense there, so that's a success, I guess :) |
| 05:15:46 | <heck-to-the-gnom> | It's 98% fine, it's merely the parts outlined in that clip |
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| 05:42:32 | <Solid> | probably just there to stop bullshit complaints because that's needed in $CURRENT_YEAR |
| 05:42:44 | <Solid> | maybe a sneaky way to filter out people who would inevitably cause problems later on :> |
| 06:00:40 | <heck-to-the-gnom> | It's possible, regardless, I don't care for their DE, so, even if their CoC is nothing bad/a way to appease the mob, I don't really care for them. |
| 06:01:21 | <heck-to-the-gnom> | mc47: It seems you've switched full time to matrix, yes? |
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| 06:08:07 | <Solid> | he's still on IRC sometimes I think; probably just uses what's already open |
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| 08:06:33 | <mc47[m]> | heck-to-the-gnome that's because I'm mainly using my phone these days, I'm not spending as much time in front of the PC |
| 08:11:24 | <mc47[m]> | That and the fact that the internet is pretty terrible so IRC keeps disconnecting, which really annoys me |
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| 08:52:58 | <MrElendig> | rule 4861 of the internet: if anything is related to distrotube; ignore it, it is full of bs |
| 08:53:49 | <MrElendig> | fox news of the *nix world :p kinda |
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| 08:54:56 | <Solid> | :D |
| 08:59:34 | <oogeek> | :MrElendig I use Xmonad because of seeing his video, but then I start to read the source code and learn more |
| 08:59:55 | <oogeek> | No need to watch videos then |
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| 09:01:25 | <oogeek> | MrElendig: Well, I must admit that it is a fact for about 90% of the time |
| 09:06:23 | <Liskni_si> | I maintain the opinion that everything is crap. DT is crap, CoCs are crap, vocal CoC proponents are crap people, vocal CoC opponents are crap people, RMS is crap and the anti-RMS witch hunt is crap too. So now I hope I've offended everyone equally, and thus offended noone. |
| 09:07:43 | <MrElendig> | the root problem is not the CoC's etc, but the fact that we still need them in 2021 tl;dr humanity sucks and should be wiped out :p |
| 09:08:29 | <MrElendig> | http://www.dieselsweeties.com/ics/301/ |
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| 09:10:21 | <oogeek> | May I ask what is 'Coc'? |
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| 09:10:31 | <oogeek> | *CoC |
| 09:10:46 | <mc47[m]> | Code of conduct ist |
| 09:10:54 | <oogeek> | Oh thanks |
| 09:11:04 | <mc47[m]> | Ignore the "ist"... Stupid autocomplete |
| 09:11:45 | <oogeek> | I have opened a question about stack build here: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/524 |
| 09:11:51 | <oogeek> | I am not sure if it is stupid |
| 09:12:18 | <Liskni_si> | MrElendig: yeah that's true. I've seen a few incidents of CoC enforcement and all of them were mishandled and ended up angering everyone more than necessary. Humans are crap, no matter which side of the CoC they stand on. :-/ |
| 09:12:50 | <mc47[m]> | oogeek it's not, we talked about solving those before |
| 09:13:04 | <Liskni_si> | (And I am crap, too, obviously. We all are.) |
| 09:13:38 | <mc47[m]> | We need to at least be consistent with the development guidelines and also solve the hlint warnings |
| 09:14:06 | <mc47[m]> | Hopefully that could be automated |
| 09:14:38 | <mc47[m]> | And enforced by some kind of CI, otherwise it's a futile effort |
| 09:15:22 | <oogeek> | Oh got it. |
| 09:22:00 | <Liskni_si> | xmonad core already builds with -Werror in CI so xmonad-contrib should follow but it's work that needs to be done. |
| 09:24:20 | <Solid> | apply-refact can apply hlint warnings automatically I think |
| 09:25:07 | <Solid> | not sure about ghc warnings as there's often not a unique way to get rid of them |
| 09:25:15 | <mc47[m]> | I also found a CI action that annotates problematic code spans in github (e.g. If we run hlint on PRs). Still haven't played with it enough |
| 09:27:14 | <Liskni_si> | I have an action like that of my own. ;-) |
| 09:27:52 | <Liskni_si> | Nothing complicated really, just sets up regexes for Github to understand the output. |
| 09:28:19 | <Liskni_si> | (Any action that does something more complicated than that will be crap in one way or another.) |
| 09:29:08 | <mc47[m]> | That's cool |
| 09:31:44 | <Liskni_si> | GHC's error messages are not machine-friendly though, so I never bothered to support those. :-/ |
| 09:32:04 | <Liskni_si> | But it probably can be done, somehow. |
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| 09:42:39 | <oogeek> | Recently I bought a raspberry pi and sadly I found out that I could not run xmonad on it. |
| 09:43:10 | <oogeek> | It is too hard for me to cross-compile something like that. |
| 09:45:27 | <Liskni_si> | oogeek: did you try to compile it there? |
| 09:45:40 | <MrElendig> | shouldn't be that hard to crosscompile for arm |
| 09:45:50 | <MrElendig> | unless you have an ancient ghc/llvm |
| 09:46:28 | <MrElendig> | could always compile on the rpi instead if you have a day to spare :p |
| 09:46:32 | <MrElendig> | could also* |
| 09:46:34 | <oogeek> | I mean I have no experience with crosscompile |
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| 09:47:10 | <Liskni_si> | Back in 2011 I tried compiling something with GHC on the Nokia N900 which had 256M RAM + 768M swap, it was very slow but it did build eventually. |
| 09:47:26 | <oogeek> | Any resources for that? I have found some guide about cross-compile some other languages, but no haskell |
| 09:48:14 | <MrElendig> | https://mobile-haskell-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/# |
| 09:48:58 | <oogeek> | MrElendig Oh thanks a lot for that. |
| 09:49:18 | <oogeek> | I really want to use it on my Arch Linux Arm aarch64 Raspberry Pi 4B |
| 09:49:23 | <MrElendig> | docker image should work with podman too |
| 09:49:49 | <oogeek> | I think I will dit into that later. |
| 09:50:03 | <oogeek> | Right now I use my Pi as VPN server. |
| 09:50:24 | <oogeek> | *dig |
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| 13:40:42 | <heck-to-the-gnom> | oogeek: Do you use wireguard? Or another VPN technology? |
| 13:45:27 | <oogeek> | heck-to-the-gnom I use openvpn |
| 13:45:56 | <heck-to-the-gnom> | Ah, have you tried wireguard? The blog posts on it seem really promising. |
| 13:47:52 | <oogeek> | I think I may try it in the future. |
| 13:50:32 | <oogeek> | Right now I am reading three guides about cross-compling haskell to Arch linux arm aarch64 |
| 13:53:33 | <heck-to-the-gnom> | ah, yes, your hands are full |
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