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00:01:12 <kajzer> liskin: there's one difference though, with firefox going fullscreen, xmobar is still there, has nothing to do with PR and that problem, would have to use keybind to avoid struts, just saying
00:02:06 <liskin> kajzer: not sure I follow; difference to what?
00:04:29 <kajzer> liskin: ah yes, well that problem with key grabbing I was able to avoid with different config, seems liek it's related to statusBarProp, but if I don't use that and go with loghook instead, that problem is gone
00:04:37 <kajzer> like*
00:05:07 <kajzer> again, that's minor and has nothing to do with that PR
00:06:34 <kajzer> that's a different issue, forget about it :)
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00:16:31 <kajzer> well, actually no, that is my mistake, had to restart firefox, so there's no difference
00:16:54 <kajzer> sorry about that confusion
00:17:39 <liskin> if restarting firefox makes any difference to xmobar being visible or not, then I presume your xmobar isn't being lowered on start?
00:21:49 <kajzer> liskin: it's not defined, don't know what default is, I guess it's not
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00:25:48 <kajzer> I thought that was related because without PR pressing unbound key would cause similar effect
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00:30:57 <dmwit> What an odd "bug". When you ask for the wrong thing, you get the wrong thing, and this is a bug?
00:32:49 <geekosaur> which, #297?
00:32:56 <liskin> if this is what I think it is, "related" is indeed a bit of a stretch :-)
00:33:39 <liskin> the key to toggle status bars doesn't really toggle their visibility, it only toggles xmonads avoidance of them while laying out windows
00:33:55 <liskin> but this doesn't affect fullscreen windows in any way
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00:34:18 <liskin> what does affect fullscreen windows, though, is the stacking order of xmobar vs those windows
00:34:23 <dmwit> Well, #293, which is the issue that #297 fixes.
00:35:45 <geekosaur> the problem there is that `def` is so "magical" that people expect it to Just Work but it can''t do anything sane as a keybinding function
00:35:57 <geekosaur> and I was less than happy to find out it would typecheck there
00:36:40 <geekosaur> in particular the function instance caught me by surprise
00:38:22 <geekosaur> I suppose it would be possible to invoke it and check for (0,0) result and substitute the default that it uses for the built-in status bars (mod-b), but that kinda sucks
00:39:33 <liskin> it'd be a hack for the sake of better ux
00:39:51 <geekosaur> yeh
00:40:20 <liskin> but I'm not sure this is a real pressing issue
00:41:16 <geekosaur> well, it does also hack around another issue, which is that there's no way to get at said built-in binding currently
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00:41:56 <liskin> oh, I thought we export it now
00:43:42 <geekosaur> don't see it in the export list
00:44:28 <liskin> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/StatusBar.hs#L31
00:46:53 <geekosaur> oh, I was looking at DynamicLog
00:47:10 <geekosaur> which I expect people will continue to use for compatibility
00:47:32 <geekosaur> or for still-passing-around-and-hacking-up-ancient-configs
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