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07:52:34 <always_blue> Hello everyone. Does anybody know if there is a Query for the manageHook to check if a window is floating?
07:54:04 <Solid> isFloat :)
07:55:25 <always_blue> Thank you Solid :)
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07:58:20 <Solid> granted, it probably shouldn't be in X.H.RefocusLast
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08:15:19 <always_blue> isFloat is not doing it for me unfortunately. I've added the following to my manageHook: "fmap not isFloat --> insertPosition Below Newer", with the intention of drawing floating windows above the newest and of drawing any other window below the newest to "reverse" the direction in which windows are spawned (to the right instead of to the left in Tabbed Simplest for instance). I want to do this
08:15:25 <always_blue> because I want to draw all other windows in the reverse direction w.r.t. the default one, but if I do this for floating windows then a floating window below another floating window would remain hidden. So I wanted to make an exception for floating windows, which should be drawn as per default
08:15:58 <always_blue> You have any idea for why this is not working? Or any tips for how to do it differently?
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08:17:14 <liskin> When manageHook runs, the window isn't managed yet, so isFloat won't work :-(
08:18:01 <always_blue> Oh shucks
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08:33:53 <liskin> always_blue: this is what xmonad uses to decide whether to float or not: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/6caac22df135614fecc66b4dcf1f7792352f07da/src/XMonad/Operations.hs#L57-L58
08:34:40 <liskin> so if you take this and turn into a willFloat :: Query Bool, it should work
08:35:41 <liskin> would be nice if xmonad core exported this, but we'd need to think hard about how to name this and where to put it
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08:47:25 <always_blue> I will try that, thank you liskin :)
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09:00:35 <always_blue> It works :) thank you very much liskin
09:03:32 <liskin> always_blue: glad to hear that
09:04:18 <liskin> always_blue: would you perhaps open a github issue and attach the few lines of code you ended up with, so that we can think about putting it somewhere?
09:05:14 <always_blue> Sure thing :) I'm on it
09:10:29 <Solid> collaboration \o/
09:23:06 <always_blue> Done :) I haven't tested the example configuration I used in the issue yet, but I will do it in a short while and edit it if need be
09:30:14 <liskin> cool
09:31:14 <liskin> This is something that I could use as well. It happens every so often that a floating window opens below another floating window here. Wasn't annoying enough for me to do anything about it, but now that I know what, I might. :-)
09:35:10 <always_blue> Glad I could be of help :)
09:56:26 <always_blue> I can't seem to be able to build xmonad-testing :( here's the error I get: https://pastebin.com/BRPSJ21t
09:56:37 <always_blue> Not sure how to go about it
09:59:05 <Solid> you probably don't want to actually build xmonad-0.13 do you?
09:59:28 <always_blue> Probably not. I'm just trying to test an example configuration
09:59:54 <always_blue> But the checklist on the github issues page tells me to test with xmonad-testing
10:02:53 <Solid> eh just ignore that
10:02:59 <liskin> :-D
10:03:07 <Solid> :>
10:03:10 <Solid> xmonad-testing is a bit overly complicated
10:03:14 <liskin> this bloody checklist of ours…
10:03:20 <Solid> in contrib we have removed it already
10:03:26 <liskin> people who shouldn't ignore it do ignore it, and people who should ignore it don't
10:03:31 <Solid> we should probably do the same in the xmonad repo
10:03:38 <always_blue> Will do :D
10:04:09 <liskin> anyway; TIL: NamedFieldPuns completely disabled -Wname-shadowing for all record fields
10:04:17 <liskin> *disables
10:04:52 <liskin> (was wondering why XMonad.Main gets away with name shadowing "dirs")
10:07:01 <Solid> oh neat
10:09:22 <liskin> I was like "oh crap am I just going to waste my morning reporting a ghc bug or what"
10:20:55 <always_blue> Still having troubles building xmonad :( I got this error with my example config: https://pastebin.com/kGyweUmq. Simple enough to fix (or so I thought), I'll just add xmonad-contrib as a build-depend. This is what I get if I do that: https://pastebin.com/wK5zXHJv
10:21:36 <liskin> Solid: https://github.com/liskin/xmonad/commit/90101613e76de52c9586b11032f8bb2a66cd4c72#diff-206141305e4cc4e20f2b6ee7b8b99b238c57cff3a9fa442848427958e4c64f63R483 any better idea how to name this?
10:22:37 <liskin> always_blue: you shouldn't name your package xmonad
10:22:52 <liskin> there already is a package named xmonad
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10:25:30 <always_blue> That fixed it :) thank you
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10:36:28 <always_blue> Done all my testing and it seems to work :) thanks everyone for your help
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11:07:33 <Solid> liskin: no; in fact, that's exactly why I originally called the specialized one "Dirs" :)
11:07:51 <Solid> names are hard
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