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00:03:34 <c_wraith> I suppose it is a challenge to just say "if you ignore the type arguments, it's a monoid"
00:03:39 <c_wraith> formally, I mean
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00:05:44 <shachaf> "identity" and "interchange" might instead be called "left identity" and "right identity"
00:06:09 <shachaf> And composition is associativity, as you said.
00:06:11 <monochrom> They managed to say that. "4. Monoids are phantom Applicative functors" :)
00:06:17 <shachaf> So what's going on with homomorphism?
00:07:58 <monochrom> Does it help to rewrite as "fmap f (pure x) = pure (f x)"? Now it is a "pure is a natural transformation from Identity to your F" thing...
00:09:07 <monochrom> OTOH the form "pure f <*> pure x = pure (f <*>_Identity x)" is a homorphism law.
00:09:42 <monochrom> It is a beauty that there are so many perspectives.
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01:18:58 <qrpnxz> composition laws are pretty awesome man, letting you combine things easily, but also opening the door for fusion
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01:20:11 <haskl> Is there any advantage to using something like this https://github.com/utdemir/ghc-musl over just installing all the haskell depends via APK in alpine the normal way and building from there? like how fossa/haskell-static-alpine does it. I don't understand what the advantage of musl would be in this context.
01:21:28 <qrpnxz> musl is a small lightweight libc, if that's what you want then use musl
01:23:17 <geekosaur> alpine I think already uses musl
01:23:49 <geekosaur> the main advantage seems to be that ghc-musl is set up to be a docker image so someone can do static builds anywhere
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01:24:07 <geekosaur> instead of having to installl and configure a separate alpine install in e.g. a vm
01:24:45 <geekosaur> so if you're already using alpine you get nothing from ghc-musl
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01:31:39 <haskl> yeah so if i'm already building static binaries in an alpine container i get nothing, got it
01:31:50 <haskl> i'm also looking at https://github.com/lunaris/minirepo and wondering why anyone would want such a complicated setup
01:32:11 <haskl> seems like *a lot* of code to do the same thing
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01:36:23 <geekosaur> I ask myself that every time I see someone struggling with nix :)
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01:38:55 <Axman6> I'm not convinced that Nix isn't just an excellent nerdsnipe designed to slow down progress of functional programmers
01:39:05 Axman6 awaits jackdk's fury
01:40:19 <justsomeguy> lol
01:41:30 <Boarders> Is there anything more I need to do with cabal than: `cabal install exe --enable-profiling` to get a profiled executable. I have tried that several times today also adding various ghc-options and none of them seem to give RTS options
01:42:05 <Axman6> you might also have to enable rts options explicitly
01:42:34 <Boarders> I have done that in the cabal file, but could you be more specific about what you mean?
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01:54:02 <Axman6> what problem are you actually observing?
01:54:07 <jackdk> Axman6: I'm not angry with you, just disappointed.
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02:02:54 <qrpnxz> can you refute that nix is a waste of time
02:03:40 <Axman6> All human actions are a waste of time, so no
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02:06:40 <qrpnxz> wrong
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02:07:10 <Axman6> Can you refute that?
02:07:38 <qrpnxz> why would i refute myself
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02:08:20 <qrpnxz> from the pipes docs: "The former function only accepts polymorphic Producers as arguments. The latter function accepts both polymorphic and concrete Producers, which is probably what you want." This doesn't make sense, would not the poly type take both poly producers and concrete producers? The "former" takes a poly and the "latter" takes a concrete btw
02:09:09 <qrpnxz> I think it's a mistake.
02:11:44 <c_wraith> unlikdly
02:11:51 <c_wraith> also unlikely, if I consider typos
02:12:22 <c_wraith> notice the phrase "as arguments"
02:12:33 <c_wraith> that tells you a higher-rank type is involved
02:12:48 <c_wraith> and when arguments are required to be polymorphic, that is more restrictive
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02:14:07 <qrpnxz> the function that takes poly is a subtype of the function that doesn't, but that doesn't somehow make it that the function that takes poly accepts "only poly" (??) and that the func that takes concrete accepts concrete AND poly (???)
02:14:21 <qrpnxz> like what?
02:14:22 <c_wraith> yes, that all follows
02:14:53 <qrpnxz> the poly function takes all concrete, it's poly, the concrete function only accepts the one concrete
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02:16:25 <c_wraith> @let foo :: (forall a. a -> a) -> Int ; foo f = f 5
02:16:26 <lambdabot> Defined.
02:16:42 <c_wraith> How many non-bottom values can be passed as arguments to that function?
02:17:00 <c_wraith> @let bar :: (Int -> Int) -> Int ; bar f = f 5
02:17:01 <lambdabot> Defined.
02:17:05 <c_wraith> How about that one?
02:17:47 <c_wraith> > bar (+1)
02:17:49 <lambdabot> 6
02:17:53 <c_wraith> > foo (+1)
02:17:55 <lambdabot> error:
02:17:55 <lambdabot> • No instance for (Num a) arising from a use of ‘+’
02:17:55 <lambdabot> Possible fix:
02:18:38 <c_wraith> > foo id
02:18:40 <lambdabot> 5
02:18:41 <c_wraith> > bar id
02:18:43 <lambdabot> 5
02:18:58 <c_wraith> you can pass a polymorphic argument to either foo or bar
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02:19:19 <c_wraith> you can only pass a non-polymorphic argument to bar
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02:20:41 <qrpnxz> yeah that makes perfect sense, and the quote is saying you can pass a poly arg to a function that accepts a concrete parameter, it's saying the exact opposite of what you are demonstrating here
02:21:02 <c_wraith> :t foo
02:21:03 <lambdabot> (forall a. a -> a) -> Int
02:21:06 <c_wraith> :t bar
02:21:07 <lambdabot> (Int -> Int) -> Int
02:21:08 <c_wraith> :t id
02:21:09 <lambdabot> a -> a
02:21:11 <c_wraith> > bar id
02:21:13 <lambdabot> 5
02:21:29 <c_wraith> I passed a polymorphic argument to a function that accepts a non-polymorphic value
02:21:40 <c_wraith> That's exactly what I was demonstrating
02:23:06 <qrpnxz> oh the forall is the problem
02:23:09 <qrpnxz> i see
02:23:25 <c_wraith> without the forall, the argument wouldn't be required to be polymorphic
02:23:41 <c_wraith> it would just be some unknown type
02:26:44 <qrpnxz> ok cool thanks for taking the time to beat that into me
02:27:17 <c_wraith> it is a bit confusing - the rules reverse when something is an argument vs a return value
02:27:42 <c_wraith> That's why a type variable in an argument is sometimes referred to as "in a negative position"
02:27:50 <c_wraith> Because of that reversing of rules.
02:29:08 <c_wraith> Note that this is essentially the same trick runST is based on
02:29:26 <qrpnxz> oh wait, daaaang. The confusing part is that forall a. a -> a is the subtype of int->int. Flipped the tree on it's head.
02:29:53 <c_wraith> Yes - but only in negative position :)
02:30:41 <qrpnxz> no look, if i want a list of [int->int] i can take int->int or polymorphics, but if i want [forall a. a -> a] i can only take polymorphics. The poly is a subtype
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02:31:19 <c_wraith> when you're talking about arguments to a function (negative position), yes
02:31:24 <qrpnxz> wait, but then in the negative position the generic one should be the one that takes the subtype
02:31:27 <qrpnxz> ahhh wtf!
02:31:41 <qrpnxz> no i was talking about a list
02:31:46 <qrpnxz> with should be covariant
02:32:10 <qrpnxz> *which
02:33:06 <c_wraith> Watch out - polymorphism of limited scope is only created by forall
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02:33:46 <c_wraith> (a -> a) -> Int is very different from (forall a. a -> a) -> Int
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02:39:12 <qrpnxz> if i want a [int->int], i can also pass in a [forall a. a->a], if i want a (forall a. a->a) -> * i can also pass in a (int->int) -> *, hmm ok yes that check's out, because i will put into it a polymorphic and it will just use it as an (int->int). Alright, cool. So the warning is basically pointing out that poly is unintuitively a subtype of the concrete.
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02:39:57 <qrpnxz> right, thanks
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03:39:34 <Boarders> are there any alternatives to alex + happy that generate lexers + parsers via a yacc + bison style grammar in Haskell?
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03:41:04 <c_wraith> that's pretty much it for that style
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04:29:06 <Axman6> so, I've been stuck for a few days trying to reimplement this (IMO bizarre) hashingn scheme in Haskell. anyone want to take a stab at it? https://github.com/microsoft/electionguard-python/blob/main/src/electionguard/hash.py I'm using https://hackage.haskell.org/package/cryptonite-0.28/docs/Crypto-Hash.html
04:29:25 <Axman6> I just can't seem to get my head around the bizarre recursion
04:29:45 <Axman6> and end up using too many or not enough |'s
04:30:44 <Axman6> I resorted to building S-expressions but still can't make it work
04:32:14 <glguy> Axman6, you're implemeting hash_elems?
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04:32:42 <Axman6> yeah
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04:35:28 <c_wraith> do you have any of the cases working?
04:38:30 <Axman6> I've written several implementations, which all do something, but since there's no useful unit tests it's hard to know if I have any of it right. the tests are all of the form hash [] == hash None, there aren't any that say hash [1,2,3] == "234ee8ui9o2fioklqwhekljaerh"
04:39:00 <dibblego> sounds like you need to poke the snake to get some cases
04:40:34 <Axman6> so as far as I can tell, the ElementModP/Q ones are working fine, they should be the hash of the hash of | <> toHex e <> | which I'm pretty sure I have working. but when it comes to what should be done for sequencey things and how to represent variadic functions I'm struggling
04:41:27 <Axman6> though, then there are tests like self.assertEqual(hash_elems(1), hash_elems("1"))
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04:41:50 <Axman6> from what I can tell, that 1 should be turned into "01" so they shoulod not hash to the4 same thing
04:43:16 <Axman6> then there's self.assertNotEqual(hash_elems(0), hash_elems("0")) which should not be equal because the 0 becomes "null" becase truthiness
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04:53:13 <Axman6> Argh, got the small tests I have to pass >___<
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05:38:21 <haskl> I hope easy static binaries are coming down the pipe for Haskell. Anyone know about any plans?
05:38:41 <haskl> Feels weird that I have to launch a Docker container to build a static binary that works well.
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05:41:47 <eco> haskl: are static binaries easy in any environment other than Go and maybe Zig?
05:44:10 <haskl> yeah i guess i was mainly thinking about how good golang devs have it
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06:07:32 <dminuoso> haskl: Last I checked, building static binaries was not difficult.
06:08:45 <dminuoso> It's nothing that needs to "come down the pipe", its already there.
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06:10:04 <dminuoso> Just keep in mind that using GMP this will require you to license the resulting binary as GPLv3
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06:11:09 <haskl> dminuoso, don't you need docker to make a good static build?
06:12:39 <dolio> I don't see how docker would even help.
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06:13:13 <dminuoso> haskl: Mmm, I dont think so. You just need to make sure you can resolve all the libraries for linking.
06:13:18 <eco> Its just a quick way to get an Alpine build environment
06:13:27 <dminuoso> I know some people do it with alpine docker because that guarantees everything is there by default
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06:14:58 <haskl> oh interesting
06:15:14 <dminuoso> The main inconvenience why this hasn't caught on, is because of the GMP licensing.
06:15:29 <haskl> sorry if these questions are annoying i'm rather new to compilers and somewhat new to haskell
06:15:29 <dminuoso> Arguably.
06:15:49 <haskl> oh yeah i heard that dynamically linked libraries tend to be used due to licensing
06:16:52 <haskl> that by giving people just the part of your program that they need to be compiled as a binary they can get the other parts that may be licensed differently from other sources like dependencies in a deb package and thus you're not "distributing" it
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06:19:00 <dminuoso> (There is a drop-in solution for gmp called integer-simple, but you pay with a hefty performance penalty with any Integer heavy code)
06:19:18 <c_wraith> it's not called integer-fast. :P
06:19:44 <dolio> Depends on the code, really.
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06:20:02 <haskl> --enable-executable-static is all i really need to builda static executable with cabal, then?
06:20:28 <c_wraith> well, you need a static libc installed
06:20:34 <dolio> I think at some point it was actually faster than the GMP version for some cases.
06:20:56 <haskl> c_wraith, ah, and that's why lots of peopel use alpine docker?
06:21:14 <c_wraith> yeah, alpine has that by default
06:21:22 <dminuoso> haskl: Some systems provide it, others dont. With glibc you have just a variety of issues.
06:21:27 <haskl> i'm using debian
06:21:32 <dminuoso> haskl: Alpine gives you musl out of the box
06:21:45 <dminuoso> haskl: Also regarding cabal, keep in mind there's an open issue https://github.com/haskell/cabal/issues/7236
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06:24:04 <dminuoso> dolio: Interesting, is that possibly due to the simplifier having deeper inlining opportunities?
06:24:39 <dolio> I think it had to do with FFI overhead.
06:25:20 <dolio> Or whatever the wired-in equivalent was.
06:25:24 <dminuoso> So I guess the same rule as with any performance problem applies: profile if you have issues.
06:25:59 <dminuoso> But then again, I also dont know where Integer is transitively used heavily in my code.
06:26:04 <dolio> Basically whatever slower algorithms integer-simple was using weren't slow enough that GMP could outweigh the overhead of calling into GMP.
06:26:13 <dminuoso> Right
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06:26:49 <dolio> And I don't know how big your integers had to be to swing the other way, but most people probably don't really use integers big enough.
06:27:01 <haskl> thanks
06:27:10 <haskl> i'm excited to try out ghc2021 as soon as cabal supports it
06:27:24 <haskl> (as soon as cabal supports uh ghc... i forget... 9.x?)
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06:45:12 <sekun> what's the progress on GHC 2021?
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06:50:21 <haskl> sekun, all I know is this: https://github.com/ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals/blob/master/proposals/0380-ghc2021.rst
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07:25:00 <sekun> haskl: I see. I wonder when it's going to land
07:25:24 <haskl> there's some PR talking about the ghc alpha integration into cabal
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08:17:47 <boxscape> sekun: The proposal says "implemented:: 9.2"
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08:18:54 <sekun> boxscape: oh so that's what that means. thanks. haven't read ghc proposals before so i wasn't sure what it meant.
08:19:42 <boxscape> understandable
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08:20:49 <dminuoso> That's probably one of the simplest proposals ever implemented.
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09:21:59 <ocramz> hullo!
09:22:40 <ocramz> does anyone know why ghc-the-library 9.0.1 is not visible on Hackage yet? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc the latest one is 8.10.2
09:23:35 <boxscape> ocramz: https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/19924
09:24:13 <ocramz> boxscape : ooh, thank you
09:24:25 <ocramz> I didn't think of thecking the trac
09:24:51 <boxscape> I happened to know that ticket exists :)
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09:26:19 <ocramz> yeah I'm writing a ghc plugin and for some reason there has been a large module reorganization in that area between ghc series 8 and 9 so I'm slowly becoming .. acutely aware of the internals
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09:28:12 <boxscape> I believe that was the conclusion of an ongoing project to modernize the module structure from an originally flat to fully hierarchical
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09:28:36 <ocramz> the new one is easier to read, for sure
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10:09:19 <kuribas> Anyone have experience with streamly?
10:10:06 <kuribas> I'd like to use it for it's fusion, like read timeseries from a lmdb database, perform calculations, write a new timeseries or return results.
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10:10:24 <kuribas> Then streamly would apply all the fusion and make it very efficient.
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10:12:51 <maerwald> What's the question
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10:16:31 <kuribas> maerwald: is it efficient?
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10:18:07 <kuribas> I could do a proof of concept, compare with C...
10:18:21 <maerwald> For your use case, I dunno. Not sure there are streamly compatible libraries yet. You might have to write your own Unfolds.
10:18:39 <kuribas> maerwald: that was the idea, yes :)
10:18:56 <kuribas> Write a low level library on top of LMDB, which doesn't copy anything.
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10:19:14 <kuribas> So read straight from the lmdb buffer.
10:19:45 <kuribas> there is a high level lmdb library, which does like 4 copies for the buffer.
10:19:58 <maerwald> I don't think there's anything faster than streamly currently. But the inlining is carefully shuffled stuff that no one understands. So if you do some mistake in your low level streamly code, it might not fuse
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10:20:31 <maerwald> Ask on their gitter channel, harendra is active there
10:20:46 <kuribas> my other idea was to write a stream processing language using GRIN :)
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10:20:53 <kuribas> but that's way more work...
10:21:13 <kuribas> I am happy with a factor of 2 of C.
10:21:19 <kuribas> C performance.
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10:37:42 <Franciman> ops
10:37:45 <Franciman> sorry wrong channel
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15:44:53 <TheCommieDuck> Hey there. So coming back to haskell after some time away. Is the use of typeclasses in a classy lens type way (rather than foo :: ConcreteA -> Bar, you write foo :: HasA x => x -> Bar) a poor idea? I'm unsure if there's a nicer way to avoid this. it's not a closed type, so I can't just use a sum.
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15:46:00 <shane> TheCommieDuck: Have you seen generic-lens?
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15:46:29 <TheCommieDuck> shane: I've seen a lot of lens but not specifically generic-lens, and I've read bits and pieces about generic but never quite understood it properly
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15:49:00 <shane> It might be a way to get you what you want. You can use it with an extension called OverloadedLabels (which look like #foo). #foo would be a magic lens for any type with a Generic instance that has a field named "foo"
15:49:51 <TheCommieDuck> I'll give it a look, thank you...I've always shyed away from generic because it feels like throwing away the hefty type system bonuses
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15:50:28 <shane> Ah no, not at all
15:50:34 <shane> It's completely type safe
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15:52:32 <c_wraith> generic-lens gives you incredibly specific type errors, in fact.
15:52:49 <TheCommieDuck> huh, cool. I'll give this a solid looksie.
15:52:57 <TheCommieDuck> thank you!
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16:10:12 <TheCommieDuck> Whilst I'm here: so right now, I have a collection of components (records of a few fields), then I use TH to generate one big record type of many Maps from IDs to components, where one ID has potential;ly many different components (i.e. it's an entity component system). because it's an open sum (I want to add more types of components and more combinations of components..) I can't just have a
16:10:14 <TheCommieDuck> single Map
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16:10:46 <TheCommieDuck> can I somehow have a heterogenous map that doesn't lose type information?
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16:18:18 <raehik> TheCommieDuck: there's some work done on type-level sets and lists that should be relevant https://hackage.haskell.org/package/type-sets
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16:18:59 <raehik> ah, here's the one I remembered better: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/type-level-sets
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16:19:21 <TheCommieDuck> ooh neat, ty
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16:56:24 <crazazy> hey guys I have a problem:
16:56:42 <crazazy> i have a library that, when running things, prints things using putStrLn
16:56:54 <crazazy> can I somehow intercept these messages?
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16:57:20 <crazazy> so that I can then parse these putStrLn messages and do other stuff with it?
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16:58:56 <geekosaur> not easily. maybe reopen fd 1 on the write end of a pipe and have a thread reading and reacting to its read end
16:59:52 <crazazy> oof that sucks
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17:00:29 <crazazy> thing is I have a project buddy who doesn't know too much about haskell, and I don't want to throw him *that* much into the deep end
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18:57:15 <mrmonday> fork the library, remove the putStrLn's?
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18:57:48 <mrmonday> oh, missed that that mesasge was sent a day ago, my bad :<
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19:13:43 <peutri> merely 2 hours or so
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19:15:38 <slack1256> Does Maybe have nominal or representational type role on its parameter?
19:16:10 <Hecate> I don't think it has a type role annotation…
19:16:30 <slack1256> Is there a flag I can put on ghci so it prints the inferred one?
19:17:15 <Hecate> hmm, you're going to have to scour the manual, I can't tell you that from the top of my head
19:17:58 <slack1256> Oh well. Thanks anyways!
19:18:46 <glguy> slack1256: representational
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19:20:34 <slack1256> That seems correct. How did you know?
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19:20:59 <glguy> that's the default, so if it doesn't say then it's representational
19:21:13 <slack1256> I mean, Maybe is parametric on `a` so it seems like representational should be. But is there a way the print to the inferred role?
19:21:27 <glguy> GHCi doesn't bother printing it for the most common case
19:21:49 <slack1256> Ah, so if ghci doesn't bother printing it, I can assume is representational.
19:21:53 <slack1256> Cool!
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19:28:27 <junkicide> does anyone use haskell-mode in emacs? I want to know what version of ghci it is running
19:29:07 <Vq> I use haskell-mode, I wasn't aware it used ghci.
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19:29:46 <junkicide> when you do C-c C-l, the so-called Haskell Interactive mode. isn't that ghci?
19:30:28 <byorgey> junkicide: I think it just runs whatever ghci is in your PATH. It doesn't come with a copy of ghc.
19:31:07 <Vq> It just says: Run ‘C-h f haskell-mode‘ for instruction how to setup a Haskell interaction mode.
19:31:23 <junkicide> byorgey: I see. where can I edit/view this path variable?
19:31:54 <byorgey> junkicide: what OS are you on?
19:31:58 <Vq> I use nix-shell to edit it. :o)
19:32:02 <junkicide> ubuntu
19:32:29 <byorgey> junkicide: if you open up a shell prompt (aka terminal) and type 'ghci', what happens?
19:32:36 <Vq> export PATH=my_ghc_prefix:$PATH # in .profile or similar
19:33:07 <byorgey> junkicide: https://superuser.com/questions/488173/how-can-i-edit-the-path-on-linux -- in case you actually need to edit your PATH
19:33:20 <junkicide> byorgey: it launches ghci 8.8.4
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19:33:59 <byorgey> junkicide: ok, so that's probably what version haskell-mode will use.
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19:35:07 <junkicide> thanks Vq and byorgey!
19:36:25 <Vq> You seem to be able to change it in Emacs.
19:36:44 <Vq> M-x customize-group haskell-interactive
19:37:46 <Vq> It mentions settings for cabal repl as well. I'm unsure when those come in to play.
19:38:15 <Vq> I mainly use haskell-mode for assisting with indentation.
19:38:39 <monochrom> It is used (instead of the ghci setting) when haskell-mode autodetects you have a foo.cabal file
19:39:25 <junkicide> is run-haskell part of haskell-mode? or is it something different?
19:39:48 <monochrom> run-haskell? runhaskell?
19:40:21 <junkicide> M-x run-haskell
19:40:32 <Vq> run-haskell seem to be a function from the haskell-mode package.
19:41:47 <junkicide> when I type M-x run-haskell, it says it's running ghci 8.6.5 which isn't the version I run from my shell prompt when I type ghci
19:42:19 <junkicide> so I'm a little confused why M-x run-haskell is running an inferior version
19:44:50 <Vq> That's not what they mean by inferior-haskell.
19:45:50 <Vq> Have you tried running ghci from an eshell or similar? Maybe Emacs runs with a different PATH.
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19:47:49 <Vq> Or maybe haskell-process-path-ghci is set to something other than just "ghci".
19:48:07 <Vq> C-h v haskell-process-path-ghci
19:48:54 <geekosaur> if you started a gui emacs from a window manager, its $PATH may be different from that in a terminal especially on non-Debian-derived systems
19:51:08 <Vq> junkicide is on Ubuntu
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20:03:33 <safinaskar> is it possible to have two different versions of same lib in dependency tree for my project?
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20:04:07 <geekosaur> not generally
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20:04:58 <geekosaur> if one of the two is entirely internal to the package that uses it, it can work. they use completely separate types, values, etc. and can't see each other
20:05:26 <geekosaur> (but cabal/stack doesn't know about this and will reject build plans calling for it)
20:06:44 <junkicide> Vq: I checked haskell-process-path-ghci and the value is "ghci" so it should be run version 8.8.4 rather than 8.6.x
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20:07:27 <geekosaur> junkicide, did you instalol a newer version after starting emacs (or possibly your wm), possibly via ghcup?
20:07:52 <geekosaur> install*
20:07:57 <safinaskar> geekosaur: but the first section of this answer ( https://stackoverflow.com/a/43140519 ) mentions project, which builds (and eventually fails to build) with 2 different versions of "text"
20:08:00 <junkicide> geekosaur: I do remember using ghcup
20:08:47 <geekosaur> safinaskar, yes, that used to happen and it's why cabal and stack exist
20:09:24 <geekosaur> because ghc would blindly try to link them together and, as I said, the two versions can't see each other and will conflict when they collide
20:09:50 <safinaskar> geekosaur: so modern cabal and stack forbids such build plans?
20:10:01 <geekosaur> yes
20:10:22 <junkicide> geekosaur: I misunderstood, if you mean to ask if I recently installed a new version then the answer is no.
20:10:26 <safinaskar> geekosaur: this is sad
20:10:37 <geekosaur> because most of the time they cause the errors in your link
20:10:46 <sclv> its not sad, its the Only Correct Thing To Do
20:10:48 <safinaskar> geekosaur: i think this restriction limits ecosystem grow
20:10:57 <geekosaur> what sclv said
20:11:11 <geekosaur> causing weird errors does not help the ecosystem grow
20:11:34 <safinaskar> okey
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20:15:18 <safinaskar> % do { let { x = 3; }; x; }
20:15:18 <yahb> safinaskar: 3
20:15:22 <safinaskar> why this works?
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20:16:24 <geekosaur> do is just syntactic sugar, if you don't use the parts that require Monad (or Applicative) the result doesn't require them either
20:16:30 <geekosaur> > do do do do do 5
20:16:31 <lambdabot> 5
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20:18:13 <safinaskar> ok, thanks
20:18:15 <geekosaur> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch3.html#x8-470003.14 specifies the desugaring
20:19:09 <geekosaur> ghc's is a little different because of ApplicativeDo and MonadFail which are not covered by the Report, but both follow the same general rule of not adding constraints unless specifically required
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20:29:21 <maxon0> hi. does GHC 8.10.4 support RecordDotSyntax?
20:29:32 <maxon0> can't find anything about it in release notes, so probably not
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20:30:02 <maxon0> I meant 8.10.5
20:30:53 <tbd> Does someone know if/how it is possible to increase the timeout until an idle connection is closed in the http-client family of libraries?
20:31:35 <tbd> I see that connections are closed after 30 seconds if idle.
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20:36:51 <geekosaur> maxon0, pretty sure it's only in 9.0.1 and later
20:42:06 <geekosaur> don';t see it in 9.0.1 so may be 9.2
20:43:02 <geekosaur> yeh, it's in 9.2
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20:47:20 <maxon0> ah, ok! any ideas when we can expect a stable 9.2 releaes?
20:48:20 <geekosaur> no, they're cleaning up issues still
20:49:42 <safinaskar> maxon0: you can install ghc 9.2 prerelease using ghcup
20:50:33 <geekosaur> https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/milestones/365 suggests there's a fair amount of work still needed
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21:04:44 <bitmapper> huh, GHC used to have a .net backend
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21:09:21 <troydm> bitmapper: long time ago
21:09:32 <bitmapper> yeah
21:09:39 <troydm> bitmapper: obsolete now
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21:13:06 <bitmapper> yeah it's just i've always heard that languages like scala/haskell couldn't target .net due to CIL being very inflexible in regards to types
21:14:20 <geekosaur> you can target them as long as you're not interchanging data --- of course, the whole point of targeting them would be to take advantage of their libraries, so that makes it kinda pointless
21:14:51 <geekosaur> (you're not bound by CIL if you're not exchanging data and can define your types as needed)
21:19:22 <bitmapper> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/babel01.pdf seems to say otherwise
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21:21:36 <geekosaur> "Inparticular we aim for easier interoperability between com-ponents whose interfaces are expressed using function types,discriminated unions and parametric polymorphism, regard-less of the languages in which these components are implemented"
21:22:01 <geekosaur> if you're not interooperating you can do whatever, but interop is the point of CIL
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21:35:51 <maerwald> is there a working online repl for haskell?
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21:37:57 <dsal> I had repl.it kind of working yesterday.
21:38:08 <maerwald> broken on mobile
21:38:11 <monochrom> repl.it but you discounted it
21:38:26 <monochrom> tryhaskell.org
21:38:38 <maerwald> broken on mobile too
21:38:47 <dsal> lambdabot:
21:38:50 <monochrom> but I feel that maybe your definition of "working" is very high
21:39:01 <dsal> lambdabot is my goto on mobile. :)
21:39:08 <maerwald> yeah, having working input :>
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21:45:45 <MorrowM> I use mniip's eval on mobile :3
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21:49:18 <Hecate> :D
21:49:21 <Hecate> hiya MorrowM
21:49:24 <Hecate> nice to see you here
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21:55:00 <MorrowM> Hi Hecate :) I lurk here from time to time
21:55:06 <Hecate> hehe
21:55:41 <MorrowM> Should probably try getting a bouncer properly set up now that I got my home server up and running again
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21:56:47 <Hecate> yup :p
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