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| 07:26:27 | <dsal> | > let baseStr digs = reverse . unfoldr (\x -> case x of 0 -> Nothing; x -> let (d,r) = x `divMod` length digs in Just (digs !! r, d)) in baseStr "0123456789ABCDEF" 12345 -- iqubic |
| 07:26:28 | <lambdabot> | "3039" |
| 07:26:41 | <dsal> | > let baseStr digs = reverse . unfoldr (\x -> case x of 0 -> Nothing; x -> let (d,r) = x `divMod` length digs in Just (digs !! r, d)) in baseStr "01234" 12345 |
| 07:26:43 | <lambdabot> | "343340" |
| 07:26:51 | <iqubic> | Yeah, that's cool. |
| 07:28:32 | <dsal> | > let baseStr digs = reverse . unfoldr (\x -> case x of 0 -> Nothing; x -> let r = x `mod` length digs in Just (digs !! r, (d+r) `div` length digs) in baseStr "012=-" 2022 |
| 07:28:34 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:147: error: parse error on input ‘in’ |
| 07:28:38 | <dsal> | argh. |
| 07:29:15 | <dsal> | > let baseStr digs = reverse . unfoldr (\x -> case x of 0 -> Nothing; x -> let r = x `mod` length digs in Just (digs !! r, (x+r) `div` length digs)) in baseStr "012=-" 2022 |
| 07:29:17 | <lambdabot> | "1=11-2" |
| 07:29:22 | <dsal> | Generalized negatives. |
| 07:29:29 | <iqubic> | I see. |
| 07:29:30 | <dsal> | > let baseStr digs = reverse . unfoldr (\x -> case x of 0 -> Nothing; x -> let r = x `mod` length digs in Just (digs !! r, (x+r) `div` length digs)) in baseStr "01-" 2022 |
| 07:29:32 | <lambdabot> | "10-100-0" |
| 07:30:30 | <dsal> | > let baseStr digs = reverse . unfoldr (\x -> case x of 0 -> Nothing; x -> let r = x `mod` length digs in Just (digs !! r, (x+r) `div` length digs)) in baseStr ['a'..'z'] 2022 |
| 07:30:32 | <lambdabot> | "dau" |
| 07:31:06 | <dsal> | Probably shouldn't use an even number of digits for such a thing. |
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| 07:35:14 | <iqubic> | Yeah, that would be ambiguous. |
| 07:43:48 | <dsal> | > unfoldr (Just . (`divMod` 3)) a |
| 07:43:50 | <lambdabot> | [a `div` 3,a `mod` 3 `div` 3,a `mod` 3 `mod` 3 `div` 3,a `mod` 3 `mod` 3 `mo... |
| 07:43:57 | <dsal> | lambdabot, you crazy |
| 07:44:23 | <iqubic> | That is a bit crazy. |
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| 12:46:40 | <HaskellNewb> | Hello, folks. |
| 12:48:15 | <HaskellNewb> | I have worked through Graham Hutton's "Programming in Haskell" (2nd Edition) and thoroughly enjoyed it. Now, what is the next step to take? I've seen a few resources, but could not really find anything as structured or well-explained. Basically, maybe the more useful question is - to create real-world projects, what major topics need to be known |
| 12:48:16 | <HaskellNewb> | beyond the topics covered in Hutton's book? |
| 12:48:47 | <HaskellNewb> | (For reference, just in case, Hutton's book covers upto and including Functors, Applicatives, and Monads, no libraries, cabal, or stack, just pure ghc and ghci). |
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| 12:51:09 | <__monty__> | HaskellNewb: One way is to just dive in. Start writing small utility programs and gradually build up to what interests you most. Asking for advice here along the way. |
| 12:51:31 | <HaskellNewb> | Hmmm ... that's one way to go about it indeed. |
| 12:52:00 | <__monty__> | As for a list of books... |
| 12:52:03 | <__monty__> | @where books |
| 12:52:03 | <lambdabot> | https://www.extrema.is/articles/haskell-books is the best list of Haskell books. See also: LYAH, RWH, YAHT, SOE, HR, PIH, TFwH, wikibook, PCPH, HPFFP, FSAF, HftVB, HTAC, TwT, FoP, PFAD, WYAH, non- |
| 12:52:03 | <lambdabot> | haskell-books |
| 12:52:32 | <__monty__> | I'm not sure any of those really go into any depth on the available libraries though. |
| 12:52:43 | <__monty__> | That's more something you gradually discover when you find a need. |
| 12:52:55 | <HaskellNewb> | Thanks for the book list, __monty__ |
| 12:53:24 | <HaskellNewb> | Just wondering - do I need something like monad transformers or plain old monad chaining works fine? |
| 12:53:27 | <HaskellNewb> | (to begin with) |
| 12:55:20 | <HaskellNewb> | Because I had a cursory look at it from a few blogs, and I couldn't understand any of it. The whole "lift" business, for instance. |
| 12:55:32 | <__monty__> | I'd say they're not necessary. |
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| 12:58:21 | <HaskellNewb> | Okay, thank you, __monty__! |
| 12:58:42 | <__monty__> | The best way to understand them is to run into situations that get boilerplatey without them. |
| 12:59:17 | <__monty__> | And then you can rewrite it with transformers and have an "Aha-Erlebnis." |
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| 13:00:19 | <HaskellNewb> | I hope I can reach that stage of understanding eventually! :) |
| 13:00:32 | <__monty__> | You will, I believe in you. |
| 13:00:58 | <HaskellNewb> | I found this small game which looks approachable enough - https://github.com/jxv/dino-rush. Maybe I'll play around with it and start getting my hands dirty! |
| 13:01:10 | <HaskellNewb> | Hahaha, you're very kind, __monty__! :) |
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| 13:04:53 | <__monty__> | Note that graphics programming can be a bit hard to follow if you're not familiar with it and it may not be the most idiomatic Haskell. Don't let that stop you if it's of particular interest to you though. The graphics knowledge will carry over to other languages easily. |
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| 16:28:02 | <rustisafungus> | happy holidays and merry christmas #haskell, may you enjoy whatever you unwrap from your monads today |
| 16:33:15 | <hpc> | enjoy your unboxed heap under a balanced tree? :D |
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| 16:34:02 | <rustisafungus> | haha |
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| 16:34:18 | <rustisafungus> | are you hoping to get a transformer ? |
| 16:34:58 | <Rembane> | https://xkcd.com/835/ :D |
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| 17:32:44 | <monochrom> | haha |
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| 20:57:10 | <Umeaboy> | I think I made a boo boo in my commit and I would like some help to solve it: https://github.com/haskell/ghcup-hs/pull/730 |
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| 22:41:12 | <geekosaur> | Umeaboy, the commit itself looks harmless as it's a doc commit. You'd have to talk to maerwald about why tests are failing |
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