Logs on 2023-09-15 (liberachat/#haskell)
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| 07:15:54 | <Axman6> | Things i wish Read instances could do: understand the use of ($) and Data.Function.(&) - I'd have a really nice DSL if it could. Will sadly probably have to resort to using YAML |
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| 07:17:56 | <Axman6> | 'xactly |
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| 11:13:07 | <samlamamma> | Hi good people. I'm off on vacation and so am in need of some vacation reading. Have you read any good papers that I can download in PDF form and print out? |
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| 11:21:16 | <probie> | On what? |
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| 11:22:37 | <samlamamma> | Honestly, I'm up for most stuff, if you have a paper that you love then I'd like to hear about it. I don't want to limit myself by my own familiar areas |
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| 11:24:56 | <jackdk> | Monoids: Theme and variations (functional pearl) |
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| 11:32:57 | <Rembane> | samlamamma: The original typeclass paper by Philip Wadler is quite interesting for historical reasons. |
| 11:34:50 | <probie> | I quite enjoyed "fast and loose reasoning is morally correct" (https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1111037.1111056) |
| 11:34:55 | <samlamamma> | Rembane: Making ad-hoc polymorphism less ad-hoc :-)? I actually read that as part of a writing assignment in uni haha |
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| 11:35:41 | <Rembane> | samlamamma: Yes! :D |
| 11:36:06 | <Rembane> | samlamamma: Was it perhaps as a part of "Computer scientist in society"? |
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| 11:43:22 | <samlamamma> | Rembane: It was a programming language fundamentals course with an essay component. I compared Java's, Common Lisp's CLOS's, and Haskell's variants of ad-hoc polymorphism and read that as part of understanding how it can be implemented (or something, it was a few years ago) |
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| 11:45:53 | <Rembane> | samlamamma: That's absolutely lovely! |
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| 11:48:34 | <lyxia> | samlamamma: types as propositions by Wadler |
| 11:49:58 | <lyxia> | https://commie.club/papers/reynolds83:parametricity.pdf |
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| 12:04:31 | <haskellbridge> | <mauke> https://okmij.org/ftp/Haskell/tr-15-04.pdf |
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| 16:05:34 | <Inst> | just out of curiosity, and i know no one bothers with this workflow |
| 16:05:39 | <Inst> | but how do you have an error that looks like this |
| 16:06:14 | <Inst> | https://paste.tomsmeding.com/yErx5YI1 |
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| 16:06:52 | <Inst> | made with manual GHC calls, but this is just hilarious in its own way, i.e, without cabal, ghc can't see that vector via vector is the same as the exact same package version, orchestrated |
| 16:06:59 | <Inst> | probably via aeson |
| 16:07:29 | <geekosaur> | the thing is they're probably not identical, but ghc isn't smart enough to show ABI hashes that differ |
| 16:07:43 | <carter> | Yeah |
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| 16:08:17 | <geekosaur> | cabal and stack will both save you from this by ensuring everything uses the same version and ABI hash |
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| 16:17:14 | <EvanR> | that situation is much worse in gcc right |
| 16:17:20 | <EvanR> | there's no tracking of ABI anything |
| 16:17:35 | <Inst> | i thought segfaulting was the point of C? |
| 16:18:36 | <EvanR> | be thankful for a swift segfault |
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| 16:20:35 | <sm> | the problem is error reporting.. it's hard to explain to the user what's going on |
| 16:20:58 | <sm> | but we should |
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| 16:23:54 | <Inst> | btw, do you know where the config is for cabal packages? |
| 16:24:25 | <Inst> | actually, found the pakaceg.db |
| 16:25:06 | <geekosaur> | don't use it directly, you just invite ghc to make the same mistake you saw |
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| 16:32:28 | <sm> | Inst: I haven't had this for a while, but IIRC the usual fix was stack clean [--full] and try again |
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| 16:34:06 | <Inst> | well, not stack user :) |
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| 17:23:48 | <Inst> | I ended up uninstalling and cleaning my cabal store, then reinstalling to get this to work |
| 17:23:50 | Inst | shrugs |
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| 23:03:26 | <wroathe> | Hey guys, I must be blind. Reading through the documentation on async I'm trying to find an operation with similar semantics to Promise.allSettled in Javascript. Meaning execute a traversable of asyncs concurrently and then collect their results in another traversable with something like t (Either Error a) as the type? |
| 23:03:32 | <wroathe> | Am I just missing it? |
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| 23:03:47 | <EvanR> | there's mapConcurrently |
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| 23:03:55 | <wroathe> | mapConcurrently and forConcurrently seem to promise that they'll cancel pending asyncs if one of them fails |
| 23:04:01 | <wroathe> | EvanR: Yeah that's not quite what I'm after |
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| 23:04:29 | <EvanR> | you could also just mapM_ over await |
| 23:04:34 | <EvanR> | er, mapM |
| 23:06:13 | <wroathe> | Oh maybe that's the idea. That mapM already gives me this |
| 23:06:23 | <wroathe> | I was expecting the library itself to export this function |
| 23:06:49 | <[Leary]> | wroathe: `traverse waitCatch` |
| 23:07:36 | <wroathe> | [Leary]: <3 |
| 23:07:38 | <wroathe> | thanks again |
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