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| 07:06:28 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> asivitz you could also try #haskell-stack:matrix.org |
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| 14:15:32 | <mikko> | how does one enable the hover plugin for haskell-language-server? i'm trying to write a simple LSP client but it keeps saying "No plugin enabled for SMethod_TextDocumentHover": https://bpa.st/raw/K3XA |
| 14:16:03 | <mikko> | even though i'm specifying the plugin in the initializationOptions like described here https://haskell-language-server.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configuration.html |
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| 14:22:19 | <mikko> | oh the language server has their own irc channel too, let me try there |
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| 15:45:00 | <wroathe> | I'm trying to tinker around with printing the heap at runtime using Cabal's ability to compile and link in C sources, and they make a routine available, rts_listMiscRoots, which calls a callback for each root closure |
| 15:45:29 | <wroathe> | I can work with these objects, but I also see that there's some handy routines in Printer.h and Printer.c within the rts folder in GHC that are being marked as private |
| 15:45:37 | <wroathe> | I'm wondering if there's a way to access these |
| 15:46:12 | <wroathe> | In particular https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/blob/df1f5e41da9496c219c942668a84534752be1a95/rts/Printer.h#L31 |
| 15:46:41 | <wroathe> | Which would let me access function names from the debug symbols |
| 15:47:46 | <wroathe> | As of right now what it seems like to me is that I'd have to write my own routine that loads the debugger symbols from the executable and does the lookup, but it would pain me to do that given that the functions in Printer.c already do so |
| 15:48:08 | <geekosaur> | that's probably a question for #ghc, but are you aware of the ghc-heap package? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/ghc-heap |
| 15:49:52 | <wroathe> | I just stumbled upon that last night, and I had it earmarked here to look at. |
| 15:50:34 | <wroathe> | It seems like to interrogate the heap at runtime the RTS needs to be paused, and so I need to see if this still requires that and if this gives me direct access to the debug symbols for these objects |
| 15:51:18 | <wroathe> | And yeah, good looking out. I didn't realize there was a separate GHC channel. GHC has become so dominant that I think of it as being one and the same with haskell. |
| 15:53:44 | <wroathe> | brb |
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| 16:11:27 | <dmj`> | wroathe: the external-stg-interpreter can dump the heap at runtime |
| 16:12:01 | <wroathe> | dmj`: Thanks |
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| 16:25:05 | <tomsmeding> | wroathe: quite apart from ghc being one and the same as haskell (which, some would say, is kind of true nowadays, for better or for worse), the difference between #haskell and #ghc is mostly just topic :) |
| 16:25:16 | <tomsmeding> | and expertise |
| 16:25:35 | <geekosaur> | #ghc is about ghc development, this is the user channel |
| 16:26:16 | <geekosaur> | if you're poking at ghc internals you almost certainly want to talk to the devs, especially if private decls are involved |
| 16:28:48 | <wroathe> | geekosaur: tomsmeding: Totally get it. I was just commenting on how singular GHC is these days |
| 16:28:56 | <wroathe> | I'll ask about it there |
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| 16:57:35 | <Fieldofnodes> | Hi, I am new here. |
| 16:58:11 | <geekosaur> | welcome! |
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| 16:59:34 | <Fieldofnodes> | Thanks |
| 17:00:26 | <Fieldofnodes> | For chatting here, what is a good etiquette on finding channels or interesting topics etc? |
| 17:02:04 | <ghoulguy> | Generally you will take your own interests and see if there are corresponding channels |
| 17:02:22 | <geekosaur> | you can send private messages to alis to search for channels on particular topics |
| 17:02:24 | <Fieldofnodes> | Cool. Is there a channel browse thing? |
| 17:02:28 | <Fieldofnodes> | Cool |
| 17:02:30 | <ghoulguy> | https://libera.chat/guides/findingchannels |
| 17:02:40 | <Fieldofnodes> | 👍 |
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| 19:15:23 | <madnight> | Is there any way to find all instances of a typeclass (in base) in all libraries on hackage? |
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| 19:27:34 | <siers> | is accelerate not maintained any more? nix shows it up as broken |
| 19:31:05 | <nullie> | maybe nix package is broken |
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| 19:36:29 | <nullie> | https://gutier.io/post/development-fixing-broken-haskell-packages-nixpkgs/ |
| 19:39:59 | <haskellbridge> | <Inst> You should try to import the package from Git, unfortunately. |
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| 20:11:49 | <nullie> | which room is this channel on matrix? |
| 20:12:16 | <geekosaur> | #haskell-irc:matrix.org |
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| 22:14:16 | <ghoulguy> | madnight: probably not without you downloading a bunch of stuff or using a search engine |
| 22:15:49 | <geekosaur> | I was surprised to find hoogle didn't support that |
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