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| 01:07:41 | <lisbeths_> | the pure parts of haskell are an abstract machine |
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| 02:32:35 | <lisbeths_> | based on the lack of anger I am guessing that is correct |
| 02:32:45 | <EvanR> | seems perfectly cromulent |
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| 04:23:32 | <monochrom> | All of Haskell is an abstract machine. >:) |
| 04:24:33 | <monochrom> | Hell, given that even today's asm is emulated on real hardware, all languages in use are abstract machines! |
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| 07:10:23 | <haskellbridge> | 05<irregularsphere> computers are (implementations) of the Von Neumann architecture (abstract machine) and all computer science is built on top of it |
| 07:10:37 | <haskellbridge> | 05<irregularsphere> well not all |
| 07:10:54 | <haskellbridge> | 05<irregularsphere> ok microsoft word is an abstract machine |
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| 16:30:14 | <ncf> | is there an easy way to attach an error context to some value, so that if its evaluation fails i get a more detailed error? |
| 16:31:05 | <ncf> | i'm guessing it's gonna be some combination of evaluate, try/catch and unsafePerformIO, but is that already packaged somewhere? |
| 16:33:56 | <glguy_> | ncf: I don't know of one, but if you find it I'd be interested to hear |
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| 16:38:41 | <ncf> | found https://hackage.haskell.org/package/spoon-0.3.1 |
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| 16:41:44 | <glguy_> | I opened that to see if it had anything, but that's not what you want, is it? |
| 16:42:58 | <ncf> | well fromMaybe (error "foo") (spoon a) is pretty close to what i want |
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| 19:07:04 | <glguy> | TIL you can consolidate multiple classes in one deriving via e.g. deriving (ToTable, ToValue, FromValue) via GenericToml Physical |
| 19:07:32 | <glguy> | I think that should have been obvious because it's how normal deriving works, but I just didn't have the right mental model |
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| 19:08:32 | <glguy> | ncf: ^ |
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| 19:20:14 | <Ashkan> | Hello :wave: |
| 19:20:15 | <Ashkan> | I'm looking for a lib to model 2,3 and 4 element vector for graphics. I've found `linear` and its vector types are `Storable` (+1) but I'm thinking maybe it's an overkill ? there is `vect` package as well but looks kinda abandoned ... |
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| 19:25:10 | <[exa]> | Ashkan: Linear.V3 and Linear.V4 and everything should be pretty good for the purpose. The package isn't completely heavyweight is it? |
| 19:25:33 | <[exa]> | (oh wait it depends on lens and everything, ok) |
| 19:27:09 | <Ashkan> | exarkun Tnx for the quick response. Honestly I'm not sure what constitutes *heavy* here :D just trying to make sure I'm not missing some de facto nice little package that is a better fit. Otherwise Linear looks rather good for me. |
| 19:28:12 | <Ashkan> | At the moment even a 3-tuple would do for me. Problem is `(a,b,c)` doesn't have a `Storable` instance (or I couldn't find it ?) |
| 19:28:34 | <[exa]> | re heavy, it's initially gonna install for some time until everything compiles, but that's it |
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| 19:29:31 | <Ashkan> | That's not a problem. I'm thinking more along the like of too-many-features-Im-never-gonna-use kinda heavy |
| 19:29:48 | <[exa]> | re storable tuple, I don't think the normal tuple would have storable but there's a strict tuple somehow which might have |
| 19:30:35 | <[exa]> | ah re the features I wouldn't care |
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| 19:31:35 | <[exa]> | as in, are you doing some actual 2d/3d math? if so, the features likely come handy later. If not, you might also just want to copypaste the code you need and that's it |
| 19:33:27 | <Ashkan> | Atm, no. Just need to put a number of (x,y,z) and (r,g,b) values together to model a very rough mesh to feed into my vulkan shader for testing. But I'm thinking, math part will come sooner or later ... |
| 19:34:03 | <[exa]> | then just go with linear, it's gonna get super handy |
| 19:34:26 | <[exa]> | ah btw |
| 19:34:27 | <[exa]> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/storable-tuple-0.1/docs/Foreign-Storable-Tuple.html |
| 19:35:54 | <[exa]> | (so the story looks like Storable tuples were omitted from Base on purpose) |
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| 19:42:05 | <Ashkan> | yeah |
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| 19:52:40 | <EvanR> | Ashkan, the package called `linear' has V2 V3 V4 and matrix types, and lots of math geared toward gamez |
| 19:52:53 | <EvanR> | oof, too late |
| 19:54:25 | <EvanR> | it does pull in the kmettiverse, but I like it for being targeted and popular |
| 19:54:37 | <EvanR> | also check out #haskell-game |
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| 20:27:35 | <[exa]> | "kmettiverse" ok I'll re-use this name |
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| 23:38:59 | <c_wraith> | I find it really odd that the number one thing people seem to use Hakyll for is blogs, yet there don't seem to be any libraries for doing things like "load a list of posts and build index pages for them" |
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| 23:50:16 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> it's very popular with new haskell fans setting up a new blog, but I think few of these setups develop into full-featured blog |
| 23:51:41 | <haskellbridge> | 06<sm> I think lack of support (ecosystem and eg libraries like you mention) and costly updates (build time, poor durability over time) are ther easons |
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