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| 06:45:39 | <ph88> | Does someone know a function similar to this https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.19.1.0/docs/Data-List.html#v:-92--92- but it deletes all elements from the first list that are find in the second list? Instead of deleting only the first occurrence? |
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| 06:50:09 | <probie> | :t foldr (filter . (/=)) |
| 06:50:10 | <lambdabot> | (Foldable t, Eq a) => [a] -> t a -> [a] |
| 06:50:30 | <probie> | > foldr (filter . (/=)) [1,2,3,4,5,4,3,2,1] [1,3] |
| 06:50:31 | <lambdabot> | [2,4,5,4,2] |
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| 07:01:41 | <tomsmeding> | \a b -> let bs = Set.fromList b in filter (`Set.notMember` bs) a |
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| 07:40:23 | <ph88> | tomsmeding, is the implementation with Set faster ? |
| 07:40:50 | <ncf> | O(n log m) instead of O(nm) |
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| 07:58:49 | <lortabac> | interestingly in most of my real use cases lists have proved to be faster because of the constant factors |
| 07:59:15 | <lortabac> | I end up using sets, maps and Data.Sequence mostly for clarity |
| 07:59:24 | <lortabac> | rarely for performance |
| 08:00:45 | <kuribas> | I may have missed some context, but using vectors is even better for performance. |
| 08:01:00 | <kuribas> | Even by a factors of 500 or so. |
| 08:01:15 | <kuribas> | If you need to append, use a chunked lists. |
| 08:01:48 | <lortabac> | kuribas: it depends |
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| 08:02:38 | <lortabac> | sometimes an efficient implementation with vectors is so inconvenient that lists are preferrable |
| 08:03:08 | <lortabac> | but the context here was lists vs sets |
| 08:04:35 | <kuribas> | sure, and often it's not in a critical path, so lists are good enough. |
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| 10:51:29 | <danse-nr3> | the new cradle lib looks nice |
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| 11:00:12 | <carbolymer> | are there are any guarantees for execution order and values visibility when using both readMVar and readIO? meaning: https://bpa.st/3DMA |
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| 11:03:16 | <danse-nr3> | :t readIO |
| 11:03:17 | <lambdabot> | Read a => String -> IO a |
| 11:03:39 | <carbolymer> | sry, I meant readIORef :) |
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| 11:17:11 | <danse-nr3> | i don't use them much. Values are bound in the monad so that's their visibility? But execution order depends on evaluation and, i think, optimization flags |
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| 11:26:22 | <[Leary]> | carbolymer: If you build a concurrent system by duct-taping MVars and IORefs together, you're just asking to suffer. Broadly speaking, I do expect `atomicModifyIORef r f >> readySetGo` and `await >> atomicModifyIORef r (\v -> (v, v))` to work out, but /really/, just use STM. |
| 11:27:52 | <carbolymer> | [Leary]: that's my intuition. I've used STM for my change, got challenged on a PR "that's complicated, what's wrong with IORef?", so I'm trying to estimate how many footguns can I fit between IORef and MVar. |
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| 11:34:33 | <[Leary]> | Well, you can start by pointing them here: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.19.1.0/docs/Data-IORef.html#memmodel |
| 11:35:31 | <[Leary]> | It's more "complicated" to get your guarantees from IORefs and MVars than from STM, and that's when it's even possible. Concurrent programs need every guarantee they can get their hands on. |
| 11:37:01 | <carbolymer> | [Leary]: That memory is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! |
| 11:37:10 | <carbolymer> | memory model |
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