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06:34:23 <Enrico63> What is this error telling me? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xnobar-0.0.0.1/reports/3
06:34:24 <Enrico63> I try to read through it, but I don't understand:
06:34:24 <Enrico63> - `trying: async-2.2.5 (dependency of xnobar)` is fine, that's the lower bound for a dependency I have in my .cabal file;
06:34:25 <Enrico63> - `async 2.2.5` (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/async-2.2.5) comes with `hashable (>=1.1.2.0 && <1.5)`, so I understand why `rejecting: hashable-1.5.0.0`;
06:34:25 <Enrico63> - next is `trying: hashable-1.4.7.0` (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/hashable-1.4.7.0), which comes with `containers (>=0.6.0.1 && <0.8)` and `text (>=1.2.3.0 && <1.3 || >=2.0 && <2.2)`;
06:34:26 <Enrico63> - which in turn tries `trying: text-2.0.2/installed-2.0.2 (dependency of hashable)`, which comes with `binary (>=0.5 && <0.9)`;
06:34:26 <Enrico63> - and there it is: `rejecting: binary-0.8.9.1/installed-0.8.9.1 (conflict: xnobar => containers>=0.6.8 && <0.7, binary => containers==0.6.7/installed-0.6.7)`
06:34:27 <Enrico63> But I don't understand that, because binary (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/binary-0.8.9.1) doesn't seem to show any bounds for `containers`!
06:34:27 <Enrico63> Yeah, in the meanwhile I'll try lowering down the lower boundof `containers` in my .cabal file. But why do I get this error?
06:34:28 <Enrico63> Incidentaly, what does "installed" mean here? I see it in other places in the form of `foo-x.y.z/installed-x.y.z`, being `foo` a package;
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09:46:21 <bailsman> There's a mistake on https://learnyouahaskell.com/introduction#about-this-tutorial - it says one should go to #haskell on freenode.
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09:52:29 <int-e> Well it's a 2011 book. I see no indication that it's being updated.
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10:05:01 <bailsman> What resources would you recommend to learn haskell?
10:06:29 <bailsman> Oh, this one is updated apparently, https://learnyouahaskell.github.io/introduction.html#about-this-tutorial
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11:06:53 <Enrico63> Hi, I'm not sure if anybody read my message about conflicts when a package I've uploaded on hackage is built. I can copy and paste more details, but the bottom line is that I still can't figure out what depencies bound should I set:https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xnobar-0.0.0.1/reports/5
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11:07:35 <Enrico63> (I'm not sure because I got disconnected when my laptop went to sleep, so I don't know if there's been messages in between)
11:10:34 <int-e> "pkg-config"
11:10:43 <int-e> "... package pango>=1.0, not found in the pkg-config database"
11:11:43 <int-e> pango won't build without the C library installed, so since you depend on that (via xmobar) the package won't build on the hackage server
11:12:28 <JuanDaugherty> Enrico63, it's a publicly logged channel, look at topic
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11:13:07 <int-e> (I didn't check whether anybody replied previously.)
11:13:23 <Enrico63> What I don't understand is that when `[__2] trying: hashable-1.4.7.0`, an indirect dependency of my package, it seems like `text-2.0.2` is picked up as a dependency, which is indeed between the bounds `text (>=1.2.3.0 && <1.3 || >=2.0 && <2.2)` of `hashable-1.4.7.0`. On the other hand, another indirect dependency of my package is `pango`. Now, when
11:13:23 <Enrico63> `pango-0.13.8.2` is attempted, `text (>=0.11.0.6 && <1.3)` is its dependency, as I can read here https://hackage.haskell.org/package/pango-0.13.8.2, and that does have an intersection with `text (>=1.2.3.0 && <1.3 || >=2.0 && <2.2)`, so why does the build insist on `text-2.0.2`, instead of picking something else?
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11:14:52 <int-e> I don't know why it doesn't exclude pange-0.13.8.2 the same way. It really should.
11:16:04 <int-e> But there's pango-0.13.10.0 and ...11.0 and you want one of those to work with text >= 2
11:16:05 <Enrico63> JuanDaugherty, thanks, I did not know! Apparently, nobody had replied anyway, unfrotunately :(
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11:16:55 <int-e> And those two versions are excluded because of the pkg-config error, so I think that's your root cause and you cannot do anything about it.
11:17:25 <Enrico63> int-e, there's no constraint on text in my .cabal file, I'm not even depending on it directly, so I don't want necessarily text >= 2
11:17:43 <int-e> Enrico63: but there are constraints in pango
11:18:00 <int-e> and text-2.0.2 is installed so that's the version it's going to use
11:18:22 <JuanDaugherty> Enrico63, np
11:19:00 <Enrico63> Yes, and the constraint in pango is `text (>=0.11.0.6 && <1.3)`, why is hackage picking text-2.0.2 without checking the rest first? Is text-2.0.2 the only version installed on hackage?
11:19:31 <Enrico63> I meant the constraint in pango-0.13.8.2, because that's what is being attempted by the build
11:19:43 <int-e> note the (installed)
11:20:17 <int-e> Pretty sure that it won't install different versions in that case.
11:20:24 <Enrico63> int-e, I read that. Does it mean that text-2.0.2 is the *only* installed version?
11:20:36 <int-e> But the other thing I'm trying to say is that it wouldn't help you.
11:22:26 <int-e> Older pango versions have the same pkg-config dependency on the pango C library.
11:22:38 <Enrico63> Why? text-1.2.4.0 would make things work, no?
11:23:20 <int-e> No, cabal-install would then do the pkg-config check and fail because of that.
11:23:58 <int-e> You'd have to get rid of the pango dependency entirely which means getting rid of the xmobar dependency and then I think you have no package.
11:25:17 <Enrico63> Oh. I think I've just realized (thanks for clarifying) that xmobar itself doesn't build, based on that red banner on top (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmobar) ....
11:25:22 <Enrico63> D:
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11:30:33 <ZharMeny> Build reports for xmobar-0.48.1 Status: 2 consecutive failures.
11:31:40 <ZharMeny> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmobar-0.48.1/reports
11:32:35 <Enrico63> I see.. It stopped building since when the dep on pango was introduced: this (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmobar-0.44.2) builds because there's no dep on pango, and the following one (https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmobar-0.45) doesn't.
11:33:37 <ZharMeny> Days since pkg-config / C library failure on my watch: 0
11:36:38 <Enrico63> eh?
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11:37:30 <ZharMeny> i just see pkg-config and libraries missin / not being found so frequently it became an inside joke in my friend group
11:41:15 <Enrico63> oh, ok
11:41:34 <Enrico63> and where's the blame? :D
11:44:00 <sprout> in general, blame the couch
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11:48:33 <ZharMeny> blame is stored in the git
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