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| 01:34:27 | <haskellbridge> | <thirdofmay18081814goya> typechecking is a thing at all because it inspires confidence in a program's correctness, understood as behaving according to specification, right? |
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| 01:43:39 | <monochrom> | It did not begin that way, but it evolved into that. But even then, the balance (or cynically tug war) between tractibility and perfection is always there and will never go away. |
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| 02:39:22 | <albet70> | map, filter and reduce in scheme, there's fmap, filter and foldl1, I wonder is filter has other name? |
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| 02:43:43 | <dolio> | select |
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| 03:10:55 | <albet70> | thanks |
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| 03:22:14 | <monochrom> | I actually like "select" better. :) |
| 03:22:40 | <dolio> | Yeah, it actually suggests what you're going to end up with. |
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| 03:40:21 | <probie> | I hate both. Were it not a keyword, I'd have rathered "where" |
| 03:40:41 | <probie> | > let where_ = flip filter in [1..10] `where_` even |
| 03:40:42 | <lambdabot> | [2,4,6,8,10] |
| 03:41:40 | <monochrom> | How about a compromise: select_where :) |
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| 03:42:36 | <geekosaur> | worst of both worlds! |
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| 03:50:37 | <probie> | Since I'm currently going through an "array programming" phase, I think we should just get rid of `filter`. It's an unneeded function, since we already have the primitives to implement it |
| 03:50:55 | <probie> | > (\p -> concat . (join $ zipWith replicate <$> map (fromEnum . p))) even [1..10] |
| 03:50:56 | <lambdabot> | [2,4,6,8,10] |
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| 03:57:19 | <Cale> | probie: lol |
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| 04:12:28 | <probie> | The Haskell looks bad because of all the need for zipping, mapping and concating (and my abuse of the ((->) r) `Monad` instance), but it's a literal translation of `P⊸/˜` in BQN (a modern APL) where `P` is our filtering function. |
| 04:14:52 | <monochrom> | Have you seen Gibbon's APLicative Programming paper? That should bridge the gap. :) |
| 04:15:48 | <monochrom> | https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/publications/publication10857-abstract.html |
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| 06:17:00 | <mauke> | albet70: grep (Perl), REMOVE-IF-NOT (Common Lisp) |
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| 06:24:13 | <rini> | 3 |
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| 08:56:12 | <rini> | has anyone had any luck making smaller (static) windows executables? afaik -split-objs doesn't work, so I'm getting 27mb vs 7mb on linux |
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| 08:56:55 | <rini> | split-sections, actually |
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| 11:18:26 | <rini> | stripping gets it down to 18mb (turns out cabal wasn't doing it) and upx gets it further down to 3.4mb. I feel like compression should be a last resort, though |
| 11:21:39 | <[exa]> | rini: do you use any particular compiler flags? |
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| 11:23:54 | <rini> | just -split-sections, O2 and static are enabled in cabal |
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| 11:27:59 | <[exa]> | rini: can you try with -fno-specialize? (just curious what will happen) |
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| 11:28:47 | <[exa]> | (anyway it would be pretty interesting to have a look at what's actually different in the binaries, I assumed there's some extra overhead for keeping the windows compat afloat but 10MB is a bit too much) |
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| 11:39:28 | <rini> | output went up a bit on linux, just made a new CI to test it on win, takes a little bit |
| 11:45:41 | <[exa]> | "output went up" you mean the binary got bigger? 🤔 |
| 11:49:11 | <rini> | it got 40kb smaller on windows |
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| 11:52:29 | <rini> | it got like a kb bigger on the non-static build? (I can't compile statically locally) that's what I saw. but on the static build it got smaller by 32 bytes |
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| 11:56:46 | <rini> | [exa]: from what I know the 10mb difference is because -split-sections doesn't do anything on windows, so instead of linking in only the functions you use, it has to link all of the libraries as a whole |
| 12:00:23 | <[exa]> | ahhh ok that makes sense |
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| 20:57:46 | <Guest6> | yo |
| 20:58:20 | <Guest6> | anyone here |
| 20:58:24 | <Guest6> | ? |
| 20:58:35 | ← | L29Ah parts (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) () |
| 20:59:39 | <geekosaur> | yes |
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| 21:06:01 | <Guest6> | what's this... i just spawned |
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| 21:15:15 | <geekosaur> | the /topic may be of interest |
| 21:15:36 | <geekosaur> | (sorry I'm somewhat busy today and I guess nobody else is around, kinda normal on weekends) |
| 21:20:27 | <Guest6> | ah ok, thanks pal.... take care!! |
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| 21:26:13 | <ash3en> | what's the topic? |
| 21:29:12 | <yushyin> | lots of things! |
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