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| 09:15:46 | <mreh> | `runState (runListT (execWriterT (runReaderT m uniAl))) newShaderState` |
| 09:15:54 | <mreh> | This is pretty egregious style, no? |
| 09:16:30 | <mreh> | isn't `flip runState newShaderState . runListT . execWriterT . runReaderT m $ uniAl` not much better? |
| 09:18:17 | <mreh> | I had to put in a double negation to ruin my point |
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| 09:22:30 | <Lears> | mreh: Both are fine so long as they're confined to the definition of `runYourMonad newShaderState m (YourMonad uniAl) = ...`. The latter is only nicer if it lets you actually go point-free and drop the `uniAl` argument. |
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| 12:04:02 | <dminuoso> | Does anyone know whether the cabal runtime flag extra-framework-dirs should apply to dependencies? |
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| 12:16:06 | <tromp> | I'm having trouble with cabal. cabal install --lib memoize results in |
| 12:16:13 | <tromp> | [2 of 3] Compiling Data.Function.Memoize.TH ( src/Data/Function/Memoize/TH.hs, dist/build/Data/Function/Memoize/TH.o, dist/build/Data/Function/Memoize/TH.dyn_o ) |
| 12:16:13 | <tromp> | src/Data/Function/Memoize/TH.hs:179:21: error: [GHC-83865] |
| 12:16:13 | <tromp> | • Couldn't match type ‘BndrVis’ with ‘()’ |
| 12:16:13 | <tromp> | Expected: [TyVarBndr ()] |
| 12:16:13 | <tromp> | Actual: [TyVarBndr BndrVis] |
| 12:17:11 | <tromp> | using GHC version 9.10.1 on MacOS 10.15.7 |
| 12:17:53 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Id suspect your ghc is too new for the package youre trying to compile |
| 12:18:39 | <tromp> | ah, so GHC is not backward compatble? |
| 12:20:26 | <tromp> | i'll try ghcup set 8.10.7 |
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| 12:21:23 | <tromp> | That results in cabal: Could not resolve dependencies: |
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| 12:34:58 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> More like 9.2 or something would be my guess |
| 12:35:06 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> For actual development i wouldnt go beyond 9.8 still |
| 12:35:44 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> And also ghc is backwards compatible mostly. But TH is a very much a almost internal API and evolves with the internals of GHC so itll break between releases |
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| 12:40:06 | <tromp> | I was able to compile memoize after installing and setting ghc 9.4.8 Thanks |
| 12:40:40 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Happy to help :) |
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| 20:22:10 | <zero> | what to say about this article? https://www.techtarget.com/searchapparchitecture/tip/5-dead-programming-languages-we-should-never-forget |
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| 20:26:25 | <int-e> | LOL |
| 20:27:12 | <identity> | LMAO even |
| 20:27:17 | <int-e> | ("the influence its designers envisioned" - citation needed) |
| 20:28:00 | <alp_> | I'd say "good for you" to the author I suppose |
| 20:29:09 | <zero> | I was hooked from "Haskell is a legacy language" |
| 20:29:46 | <int-e> | It's one of these things that make me question whether a human wrote that. |
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| 20:30:52 | <zero> | Chris Tozzi is a freelance writer, research adviser, and *professor of IT and society* |
| 20:31:03 | <monochrom> | Nothing to say about the article. |
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| 20:31:32 | <zero> | what's a professor of society? |
| 20:31:32 | <monochrom> | Something can be said about the internet. Just don't listen to random people on the internet. |
| 20:31:52 | <zero> | or is it "IT and Society"? |
| 20:31:53 | <monochrom> | Also something can be said about people who waste time reading from random people on the internet. |
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| 20:32:32 | <int-e> | monochrom: welcome to IRC! |
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| 20:33:50 | <zero> | monochrom: not to justify myself, because i do spend a lot of time reading random stuff on the internet, but i just stumbled upon this article when searching for dead (natural) languages |
| 20:34:56 | <int-e> | zero: note also that the article has been updated and they're not really saying who did the updating |
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| 20:35:30 | <int-e> | and it seems that they added 5 languages (which ones?) in the process |
| 20:35:56 | <int-e> | so... it's possible that Chris Tozzi isn't even responsible for that section about Haskell |
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| 20:37:24 | <monochrom> | Internet Random Chat? >:) |
| 20:40:07 | <geekosaur> | s/random/rotten/ 😛 |
| 20:40:40 | <zero> | i'm sorry. i thought it would be fun to share |
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| 20:45:19 | <geekosaur> | (of course, I say that while recalling that Bitnet Relay Chat was no better…) |
| 20:45:29 | <int-e> | zero: eh it's kind of funny |
| 20:46:05 | <int-e> | also somewhat upsetting because it's so bad (another win for https://xkcd.com/386/ and I don't like it) |
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| 20:46:33 | <monochrom> | Oh, BRC = Bit Rotten Chat is a cool name >:) |
| 20:47:01 | <int-e> | monochrom: Incoherently Rambling Chumps |
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| 20:59:16 | <probie> | Re "Professor of IT and society", the university I did my undergrad at (the Australian National University) is thinking of renaming the "College of Engineering, Computing and Cybernetics" (formerly the "College of Engineering and Computer Science") to the "College of Systems and Society" |
| 21:00:25 | <dolio> | Why not just "College of Stuff"? |
| 21:00:58 | <ghoulguy> | maybe another department there is already using that name? |
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| 21:17:15 | <sam113101> | yo |
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| 21:24:48 | <zero> | yeah making a safe eval bot is not easy |
| 21:24:51 | <geekosaur> | hello |
| 21:24:55 | <zero> | sorry, wrong channel |
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