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| 00:31:58 | <jackdk> | I don't think I have ever seen anyone use anything but exitcode-stdio-1.0. |
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| 08:53:29 | <r-sta> | can i ask a question? |
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| 09:16:42 | <r-sta> | ill take that as a no... |
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| 10:10:42 | <hellwolf> | :) probably a IRC rule: don't ask permission to ask |
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| 11:22:16 | <geekosaur> | there's also "nobody happens to be around at 0-dark-30 the day after xmas" |
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| 12:33:34 | <jackdk> | Is a shame that this person is gone - the wrong politeness norm leads to a bad result =| |
| 12:36:33 | <geekosaur> | are we obligated to maintain 24/7 coverage? |
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| 12:38:37 | <int-e> | it depends on your contract with Libera I believe |
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| 12:51:08 | <jackdk> | not at all. It is just regrettable that people come to IRC without knowing the etiquette around asking questions and response times. |
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| 13:23:56 | <hellwolf> | :) I can see someday someone will be build some AI bot that answers something if no one replies for some time. I am trying to speak some sentence with the highest occurrence of the word "some". |
| 13:24:48 | <geekosaur> | problem is, if it doesn't respond instantly they'll leave |
| 13:24:54 | <geekosaur> | I mean, like within 5 seconds |
| 13:25:25 | <geekosaur> | we get so many people (here and elsewhere) who just don't wait any time at all, they demand instant gratification |
| 13:25:38 | <hellwolf> | the day when people doom scroll IRC channels. |
| 13:26:05 | <int-e> | It was the scheduled functors/AGI person so I don't think we missed out. |
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| 14:47:40 | <r-sta> | hi! |
| 14:47:45 | <r-sta> | can i ask a question? |
| 14:47:46 | <r-sta> | plz |
| 14:48:46 | <ncf> | https://dontasktoask.com/ |
| 14:49:40 | <geekosaur> | also, you do realize we don't have 24/7 help desk staffing around here, especially around the winter holidays… |
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| 16:41:59 | <gentauro> | Hey all, merry x-mas. I have a question (related to GHCi and the type system). When I type: `data Foo = Bar` and then: `:i Foo`, the first line has: `type Foo :: *`. Does the `*` refer to the "implicit" universal quantification `forall`? Source: https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/explicit_forall.html |
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| 16:43:50 | <geekosaur> | turn on -XNoSTarIsType and you'll see it change to: type Foo :: Type |
| 16:43:58 | <geekosaur> | that's its kind |
| 16:44:20 | <geekosaur> | er, -XNoStarIsType |
| 16:44:50 | <geekosaur> | (StarIsType is deprecated because of type operators, but it's still the default in most released ghc/ghci versions) |
| 16:45:13 | <gentauro> | geekosaur: got it. Thx |
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| 16:46:45 | <r-sta> | hi, i was here a moment ago asking to ask a question, i got timed out though |
| 16:47:36 | <r-sta> | for what its worth i was actually part of setting up the CoC, and there is a reason im asking, to ask. |
| 16:47:55 | <r-sta> | i had not received *consent*, unfortunately, and am having to ask again. |
| 16:47:57 | <enikar> | r-sta: there is no need to ask to ask. If you want to ask question, ask for it directly. |
| 16:48:09 | <r-sta> | brainwashed... |
| 16:48:22 | <r-sta> | there is a huge reason to ascertain consent |
| 16:48:31 | <enikar> | this is the etiquette on irc |
| 16:48:39 | <r-sta> | which i am asking to ask about |
| 16:48:51 | <r-sta> | it is not a perpetuity assumedly |
| 16:49:13 | <r-sta> | im suggesting it could be a redteaming |
| 16:49:23 | <r-sta> | not to be awkward... |
| 16:49:34 | <r-sta> | anyway i cant remember my question now so ill ask again, later |
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| 16:49:49 | geekosaur | sighs |
| 16:49:58 | <geekosaur> | this person is not in touch with reality |
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| 16:51:10 | <ncf> | maybe their question was "can i ask a question" |
| 16:51:28 | <ncf> | > "don't":repeat "ask to" |
| 16:51:30 | <lambdabot> | ["don't","ask to","ask to","ask to","ask to","ask to","ask to","ask to","ask... |
| 16:51:55 | <enikar> | what a headache for nothing… |
| 16:51:57 | <enikar> | ncf: :D |
| 16:53:22 | <geekosaur> | they've asked that 3 times so far |
| 16:53:26 | <geekosaur> | in fact… |
| 16:53:29 | ChanServ | sets mode +o geekosaur |
| 16:54:17 | geekosaur | sets mode +b *!*@sgyl-37-b2-v4wan-168528-cust2421.vm6.cable.virginm.net |
| 16:54:21 | geekosaur | sets mode -o geekosaur |
| 16:55:25 | <geekosaur> | think they've had enough chances |
| 16:55:47 | <geekosaur> | (1 day timeout on the ban) |
| 16:56:00 | <int-e> | . o O ( what did I miss? *logcheck* -- oh nothing ) |
| 16:56:20 | <geekosaur> | exactly |
| 16:56:28 | <geekosaur> | much ado about nothing |
| 16:58:31 | <monochrom> | Don't answer to answer, just don't answer. |
| 16:58:54 | <monochrom> | <-- expert in opposite categories >:) |
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| 17:06:26 | <mauke> | r-sta has been here before, asking normal questions about haskell and releasing libraries on hackage |
| 17:06:30 | <mauke> | not sure what's going on now |
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| 17:17:39 | <geekosaur> | that's why it's only a short ban |
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| 17:23:09 | <monochrom> | Oh! Haskell Weekly News is still on! |
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| 18:31:11 | <monochrom> | Are they copycatting the Canada sales tax break?! haha |
| 18:31:14 | Digit | tries get yi going again, discovers the options in the man page, error, like they insist those options dont exist. |
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| 18:34:59 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> docs out of step with reality ?? I can’t believe it |
| 18:35:48 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> +you say |
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| 19:17:28 | <KicksonButt> | I'm learning haskell and I've been practicing converting a few functions from "do notation" to ones that use >>= and >> operators, but sometimes I get compiler error "parse error on input '\' (parser)" when I have a lambda function follow >>= |
| 19:18:07 | <KicksonButt> | But "parse error on input '\' " is not a very clarifying error message |
| 19:18:21 | <KicksonButt> | Any tips on how to debug this? |
| 19:20:45 | <KicksonButt> | Oh nvm, I fixed this one with parenthesis around the previous line, where I had a :: IO Int type annotation. But still this is a lousy error message, not the first time I get it |
| 19:21:02 | <mauke> | > f \x -> x |
| 19:21:03 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 19:21:03 | <lambdabot> | Unexpected lambda expression in function application: |
| 19:21:03 | <lambdabot> | \ x -> x |
| 19:21:11 | <mauke> | hmm, no, that's a different error |
| 19:21:38 | <mauke> | I would have to see the code to figure out why the compiler is saying the things it's saying |
| 19:22:01 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> The flexibility of Haskell syntax sometimes means obscure error messages |
| 19:22:54 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Also, historically beginner-friendly error messages was not top priority. |
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| 19:32:30 | <geekosaur> | errors thrown from the lexer are typically lousy |
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| 19:34:48 | <mauke> | > 'aaa |
| 19:34:50 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 19:34:50 | <lambdabot> | • Syntax error on 'aaa |
| 19:34:50 | <lambdabot> | Perhaps you intended to use TemplateHaskell or TemplateHaskellQuotes |
| 19:35:01 | <mauke> | fair enough |
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| 21:05:19 | <hellwolf> | > ' f'2 |
| 21:05:20 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 21:05:20 | <lambdabot> | • Syntax error on 'f'2 |
| 21:05:20 | <lambdabot> | Perhaps you intended to use TemplateHaskell or TemplateHaskellQuotes |
| 21:05:30 | <hellwolf> | > ' f'2 |
| 21:05:51 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 21:05:51 | <lambdabot> | • Syntax error on 'f'2 |
| 21:05:51 | <lambdabot> | Perhaps you intended to use TemplateHaskell or TemplateHaskellQuotes |
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