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| 00:22:21 | <Leary> | kaol: I imagine the issue arises due `i1` being existential: <https://github.com/kaol/snaplet-customauth/blob/master/Snap/Snaplet/CustomAuth/AuthManager.hs#L45>. You shouldn't expect to treat existentials like ordinary datatypes and have everything "just work". The first thing I'd try would be to pattern match on the constructor: `modify \mgr@AuthManager{} -> mgr{ ... }`. |
| 00:23:10 | <Leary> | due to* |
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| 00:36:10 | <Leary> | The other piece of advice I'd give is to shrink your existentials as much as possible, such that you more rarely hit these issues (and when you do, you know better why). That can mean either: exposing types that don't actually need to be hidden; splitting out constructors and fields not related to the existential type; writing all your big data types non-existenially and giving them trivial existential wrappers; etc. |
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| 00:37:37 | <Leary> | s/big/non-trivial/ |
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| 03:39:52 | <Square> | I have memory that you could shorten proxy creation as "Proxy :: Proxy MyType" in some way. |
| 03:40:55 | <glguy> | Proxy @MyType |
| 03:42:12 | <glguy> | Or with a different extension: Proxy :: _ MyType |
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| 03:44:03 | <Square> | glguy, That was probably it. Thanks! |
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| 04:06:22 | <Leary> | Has anyone gotten anti-aliasing working in OpenGL/GLFW-b recently? I was using gloss/brillo for a toy holiday project, but it was impressively ugly. I dug into the underlying libraries somewhat, and it seemed that running `multisample $= Enabled; windowHint (WindowHint'Samples (Just 4))` prior to window cration should suffice to enable basic 4x MSAA, but it didn't make a difference. |
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| 04:37:27 | <Leary> | Alternatively, any recommendations for writing simple graphical applications in Haskell with pretty output? I'm basically just rendering a bunch of solid circles for some variants on Conway's Game of Life. |
| 04:39:25 | <glguy> | Generate an image file? JuicyPixels |
| 04:40:27 | <Leary> | I'd like it to run and display in realtime, possibly at high frame rates. Can JuicyPixels actually accomodate that? |
| 04:41:55 | <glguy> | I don't think so |
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| 04:43:36 | <glguy> | Can GTK do what you want? I've found gi-gtk to be OK. Another option could be to maybe a web app served from Haskell and do the visualization in the browser. This isn't my specialty so I'm just throwing out what comes to mind. |
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| 04:50:39 | <Leary> | I'm not fond of webapps, but I'll have a look at gi-gtk. There do seem to be various options that can presumably do what I want (sdl2, vulkan, etc.), it's just that they all look pretty low-level. |
| 04:51:03 | <Leary> | Since what I'm trying to do isn't complicated, I'm hoping for a simpler option (like gloss) that actually achieves "pretty". |
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| 05:52:06 | <EvanR> | Leary, write the graphics code in C and call it from haskell xD |
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| 06:18:52 | <Leary> | Yeah, that'll get me out of the weeds. <.< |
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| 06:19:30 | <EvanR> | graphics is pain |
| 06:20:10 | <EvanR> | if you're luck enough for there to be a system lying around which is ready and works, then unavoidably eventually you will find something that is not pixel perfect and the whole thing must be rewritten from scratch |
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| 09:43:21 | <smiesner> | is there something less important than the upcoming CLC election one can participate in with a more 'junior' haskell experience? |
| 09:44:56 | <mari-estel> | huh... hackage volunteers? |
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| 09:47:33 | <smiesner> | nice call mari-estel |
| 09:48:42 | <mari-estel> | v |
| 09:48:51 | <merijn> | smiesner: Contribute to cabal-install or GHC? :) |
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| 09:50:49 | <smiesner> | actually, for university I am in the middle of writing a DSL using happy and alex. however GHC seems A LOT |
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| 09:53:04 | <mari-estel> | other packages looking for contributions recently were... if i recall correctly, hoogle, hasktags and maybe hakyll |
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| 10:29:07 | <geekosaur> | lots of packages looking for contributors, a scary amount of https://github.com/haskell has low bus factors |
| 10:30:19 | <mari-estel> | huh i thought that was the usual risky haskell life, but authors asked for help in haskell-cafe for the ones i listed |
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| 10:34:50 | <Hecate> | smiesner: alex & happy recently got a new more active maintainer (sebastian graf), so I think there is some desire to see things improve in this direction. You should definitely get in touch with him! |
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| 17:33:30 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Leary, you might want to ask in #haskell-game:matrix.org (https://matrix.to/#/#haskell-game:matrix.org) too |
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