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| 01:00:44 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> Thanks geekosaur |
| 01:01:03 | Clint_ | is now known as Clint |
| 01:01:18 | <geekosaur> | knew it'd arrive eventually 🙂 |
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| 10:10:09 | <haskellbridge> | <Morj> I just got my first spam email to hackage@morj.men, my email adress used only on hackage. Not too surprising, seeing as it's visible for all there. For some reason the mail is in french |
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| 16:18:19 | <Pozyomka> | Does the “reflection without remorse” thing (or rather, type-aligned lists) really need GADTs or does ExistentialQuantification suffice? |
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| 16:30:37 | <geekosaur> | uh |
| 16:30:45 | <geekosaur> | why' the bridge bouncing |
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| 16:35:10 | <geekosaur> | log says it's having trouble connecting to synapse for some reason |
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| 17:45:31 | <lyxia> | Pozyomka: existential quantification suffices |
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| 17:46:42 | <Pozyomka> | Ah, phew... |
| 17:46:51 | <Pozyomka> | (Because GADTs are verboten in my code.) |
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| 18:02:45 | <tomsmeding> | how far are GADTs really beyond ExistentialQuantification in terms of difficulty to understand |
| 18:03:23 | <tomsmeding> | hm, now that I write this I realise that there is a meaningful additional type system mechanic at play when you have a non-trivial GADT |
| 18:03:38 | <tomsmeding> | I guess |
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| 19:40:00 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Refinement becomes more complex |
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| 21:30:06 | <geekosaur> | ffs |
| 21:30:41 | <int-e> | hmm? oh, bridge collapse I guess |
| 21:31:04 | <inline> | hmm ? |
| 21:31:08 | <L29Ah> | hmm ? |
| 21:31:11 | <inline> | where |
| 21:31:29 | <int-e> | --- haskellbridge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] |
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| 21:32:05 | <int-e> | and it's back |
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| 21:32:46 | <geekosaur> | something is occasionally breaking the connection between heisenbridge and synapse (which for complex reasons goes through my external address) |
| 21:32:55 | <geekosaur> | I hope this isnt the fancy new router |
| 21:33:48 | <monochrom> | Correlation says it's the fancy new router. Fortunately, experience says maybe it's just default settings being suboptimal. |
| 21:34:30 | <int-e> | obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/552/ |
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| 21:34:46 | <monochrom> | Is WiFi involved? Maybe the default channel (or default channel selection heuristic) is poor. |
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| 21:37:15 | <monochrom> | OK OK please switch back and forth between the old router and the new router for a million times so we can establish beyond 5 sigmas what's the correlation in the first place. >:) |
| 21:37:24 | <geekosaur> | it's wired |
| 21:37:30 | <geekosaur> | also the settings aren't quite default |
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| 21:39:39 | <monochrom> | Post your photo on the wall near the router. (True story: school sysadmins did that to a bad printer. It worked.) |
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| 21:42:11 | <int-e> | . o O ( A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power off and on. Knight, seeing what the student was doing, spoke sternly: "You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." Knight turned the machine off and on. The machine worked. ) |
| 21:42:35 | <monochrom> | hahaha |
| 21:43:01 | <monochrom> | "It's always personal" |
| 21:45:18 | <geekosaur> | I just shut off the fancy-ass security stuff |
| 21:45:33 | <darkling> | If I had a pound for every time I've walked up to a machine that someone's reported having a problem with, and it's not a problem any more... |
| 21:45:51 | <darkling> | (... I'd probably be able to buy a couple of pints, but hey...) |
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| 21:47:35 | <geekosaur> | I spent most of my career as a sysadmin, I know way too much about this stuff |
| 21:49:48 | <darkling> | You have my deepest sympathies. |
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| 21:54:13 | <geekosaur> | … |
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| 21:54:53 | <geekosaur> | this time I show no errors this side??? |
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| 21:58:29 | <geekosaur> | sigh, just as I give up and restart it |
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| 22:01:38 | <humasect> | geekosaur: cheers |
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