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Logs on 2025-06-29 (liberachat/#haskell)

00:01:11 × j1n37 quits (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
00:02:30 × jespada quits (~jespada@r179-25-68-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
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01:46:22 × j1n37 quits (~j1n37@user/j1n37) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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02:46:29 × trickard_ quits (~trickard@cpe-52-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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06:19:52 <Leary> Recursion schemes which you can write in System F (cata, ana, etc.) have termination guarantees, but they only hold when you supply arguments also corresponding to System F terms. `hylo` and co. which can only be written in Haskell where least and greatest fixed points coincide, has no guarantees whatsoever.
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15:09:17 <symbolic_silver_> <redacted by admin 1>
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15:10:58 <geekosaur> tomsmeding, perhaps you can delete the above from your logs?
15:11:20 <haskellbridge> <soyr> And ban them, probably also a good idea
15:12:06 <geekosaur> it was a drive-by, myultuiple users in multiple channels, banning probably doesn't help
15:15:22 <humasect> yeah waste energy
15:15:34 <humasect> can't walk downtown without Spare Change Sir
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15:41:21 <haskellbridge> <soyr> geekosaur: does this happen often?
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15:43:39 <geekosaur> Actually we have been remarkably spam free for the past several months
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18:28:11 <tomsmeding> geekosaur: is this doxxing?
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18:29:41 <tomsmeding> if so then I'm happy to delete
18:30:16 <geekosaur> Don't know but that's the guess elsewhere they hit at least three channels channels
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18:33:47 <tomsmeding> geekosaur: fair
18:34:18 <tomsmeding> okay I didn't read the first line properly, yes this reeks of doxxing
18:34:31 <tomsmeding> I'll soon, either today or tomorrow, a bit busy now
18:34:38 <tomsmeding> thanks for pinging me!
18:34:57 <geekosaur> Same Target in all three
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18:35:32 <tomsmeding> perhaps someone should notify the target that this is happening
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19:18:31 <EvanR> tomsmeding, alternatively it is designed to appear like doxxing, but elicit a response to a set of fake contacts for scam purposes
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21:15:00 <tomsmeding> redaction successful
21:15:11 <tomsmeding> this process is extremely manual
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21:15:17 <monochrom> Nice thanks.
21:15:51 <tomsmeding> why does ircbrowse have a unique constraint on the tuple (network, channel, timestamp, nick, text)?
21:16:02 <monochrom> Maybe tell Copilot to write the deletion code for you :)
21:16:04 <tomsmeding> now I couldn't redact them all to the same text
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21:16:26 <tomsmeding> there even is an id column that is in fact unique, despite not having a unique constraint on it!
21:17:06 <tomsmeding> monochrom: the current rate is less than once every 4 years
21:17:39 <monochrom> Does it support SQL or the SQL equiv of "delete from foo where text matches xxx"?
21:18:13 <tomsmeding> it is an SQL database, but I don't dare deleting the rows because the schema is odd and there are cross-references in another table in some strange way
21:18:33 <tomsmeding> it's quite possible to delete them properly but I couldn't be arsed to figure out how the schema worked again
21:19:09 <monochrom> Ah, "update" then.
21:19:24 <tomsmeding> indeed, this was 5 update statements
21:20:02 <tomsmeding> https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lchaskell?id=1596548#trid1596548
21:20:33 <monochrom> I think it's very academic to say "unique on <huge tuple>" because that's the fundep theory taught in school. :)
21:20:51 <tomsmeding> I mean, sure, but then why is there a unique id column without a unique constraint?
21:21:11 <tomsmeding> there is an _index_ on the id column, it just doesn't have "unique"
21:21:28 <tomsmeding> then again, this is not the strangest thing in ircbrowse
21:21:30 <tomsmeding> "it works"
21:21:49 <tomsmeding> did anyone notice that I put anubis in front of the nick stats pages?
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21:22:05 <int-e> tomsmeding: "it works" -- is that the strangest thing? :P
21:22:06 <monochrom> My standard hypothesis is then two persons worked on this, so each brought in their perspective and be in mismatch with the other person's.
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21:22:21 <EvanR> a non-unique ID field
21:22:27 <EvanR> wtf xD
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21:23:00 <EvanR> makes me think someone intended to eventually manipulate the ID manually for some reason
21:23:02 <tomsmeding> int-e: I'm not sure what the strangest thing is, I think the fact that batch loading of new messages from the ZNC logs involves a full table scan on the table of all messages to recompute offsets
21:23:15 <tomsmeding> ircbrowse is quadratic in the number of messages in the database
21:23:24 <int-e> eww
21:23:28 <tomsmeding> monochrom: I think this is a side project of Chris Done
21:23:29 <monochrom> One was from university and was secretly a mathematician so they were like "unique on <huge tuple>" and the other was from a code monkey school so they never even heard of "unique".
21:24:08 <tomsmeding> another thing that's not so "strange" per se, but did made me look askance, was that it did a bunch of float math in order to compute a ceil division on Ints
21:24:18 <int-e> monochrom: but this uniqueness constraint makes no sense
21:24:18 <int-e> monochrom: but this uniqueness constraint makes no sense
21:24:21 <tomsmeding> someone hadn't heard of ceil(a/b) = (a+b-1)/b
21:24:43 <tomsmeding> ooh let's see how this ends up in the db
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21:25:25 <tomsmeding> single copy is the answer
21:25:43 <tomsmeding> https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lchaskell?id=1596898#trid1596898
21:26:27 <monochrom> Oh heh, CSE on IRC messages?!
21:26:43 <tomsmeding> just plain deduplication, I'd call it
21:26:44 <int-e> common spam elimination?
21:26:47 <tomsmeding> :D
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21:29:08 <tomsmeding> https://github.com/tomsmeding/ircbrowse/blob/b038503af83114504c72375d75df7d56001f3152/upstream/snap-app/src/Data/Pagination.hs#L32-L38
21:29:24 <tomsmeding> current state: https://github.com/tomsmeding/ircbrowse/blob/47653df8493fd0a49a42bc775dda6d5dc92b4be1/upstream/snap-app/src/Data/Pagination.hs#L32-L34
21:30:44 <EvanR> well ceil(a/b) looks more obvious and is sometimes right xD
21:30:53 <tomsmeding> wait did I simplify that wrongly
21:30:56 <tomsmeding> EvanR: look at the code
21:31:40 <EvanR> round?
21:31:43 <EvanR> I'm out
21:31:58 <monochrom> One can write a comment to remind "this is ceil(a/b)"
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21:32:21 <tomsmeding> is it though?
21:32:31 <tomsmeding> I'm now doubting whether the original code properly implemented ceildiv
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21:33:10 <EvanR> round's behavior depends on the rounding mode in the environment
21:33:12 <EvanR> it's not pure!
21:33:20 <monochrom> or round(a/b), or whatever the intention is. The point is that comments exist for a reason.
21:35:12 <EvanR> also record wildcard pattern gross
21:35:37 <tomsmeding> okay just tested the original function in ghci and it indeed seems to do ceildiv
21:35:38 <monochrom> It was from a time when wildcard patterns were cool. I used them too.
21:35:43 <tomsmeding> my brain just doesn't understand why
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21:36:45 <monochrom> Oh haha I see now. The floating-point version is both slower and harder to understand.
21:36:54 <tomsmeding> yes
21:36:57 <EvanR> if a/b = round (a/b), it outputs round (a/b). If it's greater, it outputs round (a/b) + 1
21:37:03 <tomsmeding> oh my brain now works again, yes
21:37:09 <monochrom> complete with both floating-point slowness and conditional branching slowness!
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21:37:39 <tomsmeding> anyway, this is one of the strange things I found in ircbrowse
21:37:45 <monochrom> And not even the courtesy of manual CSE while we're at it.
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21:37:51 <EvanR> insult to injury is round produces an int which is converted back to a float before it can be compared xD
21:37:58 <tomsmeding> yes :D
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21:38:51 <EvanR> (usually I like getting an Int back but this is not a case where it's nice)
21:39:04 <tomsmeding> now this code is quite cold so optimisation is not particularly important, but I do think that my new version with ceilDiv is _much_ clearer
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21:40:34 <monochrom> The name "ceilDiv" helps. And the formula is a well-known idiom.
21:40:46 <tomsmeding> and if you don't know the idiom, then there's the name
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22:05:46 <probie> What's a good way to make an IO function run once. e.g. `myFunction >> myFunction = myFunction`. All that immediately comes to mind is using `unsafePerformIO` to make a top-level IORef. (context: binding to a C library that needs exactly 1 init call)
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22:07:56 <glguy> probie: Basically what you're thinking: https://github.com/haskell-cryptography/HsOpenSSL/blob/master/OpenSSL.hs#L82-L108
22:08:18 <glguy> some libraries already detect if their init functions are called multiple times
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22:12:15 <EvanR> a top level IORef which can only be written once ... aka an IVar might help
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22:18:12 <probie> I'd consider an IVar if they were in base. But this is just some minor-book keeping so that any potential user of my library doesn't have to care that the original c library crashes if init is called twice
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22:19:00 <glguy> They'll only care in the rare chance that something else links in the original C library
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