Logs on 2025-06-30 (liberachat/#haskell)
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| 06:40:37 | <haskellbridge> | <Axman6> @unmtl StateT Claims (LogicT IO) |
| 06:41:02 | <haskellbridge> | <Axman6> D: am I too matrix for lambdabot? |
| 06:41:15 | <Axman6> | @unmtl StateT Claims (LogicT IO) |
| 06:41:15 | <lambdabot> | err: `StateT Claims (LogicT IO)' is not applied to enough arguments, giving `/\A. Claims -> LogicT IO (A, Claims)' |
| 06:41:20 | <Axman6> | @unmtl StateT Claims (LogicT IO) a |
| 06:41:20 | <lambdabot> | Claims -> LogicT IO (a, Claims) |
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| 07:37:05 | <probie> | Axman6: If you want to do it from Matrix, precede it with a newline |
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| 07:49:16 | <tomsmeding> | Axman6: and put a . on the first line otherwise the newline will get swallowed |
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| 07:49:39 | <haskellbridge> | <Axman6> D: |
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| 13:48:27 | <yin> | hls fails with the diagnostic error "Locading the module XXX failed. It may not be listed in your .cabal file!" |
| 13:48:54 | <yin> | this is the cabal file https://paste.jrvieira.com/1751291328014 |
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| 13:49:37 | <yin> | i get this error on all Verse.XXX modules |
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| 13:55:08 | <tomsmeding> | yin: not sure if this is it, but exposed-modules takes a list without commas |
| 13:55:16 | <tomsmeding> | just whitespace-separated |
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| 14:00:19 | <yin> | what? first time I'm hearing about this |
| 14:01:08 | <tomsmeding> | apparently cabal supports both? TIL |
| 14:01:20 | <tomsmeding> | do you have a hie.yaml? |
| 14:01:44 | <tomsmeding> | have you tried closing your editor, running `rm -rf ~/.cache/ghcide`, running `cabal build`, and then reopening your editor? |
| 14:02:08 | <tomsmeding> | (the HLS equivalent of "have you tried to turn it off and on again") |
| 14:02:19 | <yin> | https://paste.jrvieira.com/1751292105319 |
| 14:02:35 | <yin> | good idea. trying that |
| 14:02:40 | <tomsmeding> | yin: if you have a hie.yaml then HLS trusts that blindly |
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| 14:02:46 | <tomsmeding> | you only have ./app in there so only ./app is known |
| 14:03:11 | <tomsmeding> | yin: try removing line 3 and 4 of hie.yaml, leaving just "cradle: cabal:" with a newline in between |
| 14:03:28 | <tomsmeding> | you can also try removing hie.yaml entirely |
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| 14:05:05 | <yin> | that worked |
| 14:05:11 | <yin> | ty |
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| 14:09:23 | <yin> | i can't remember why i generated hie.yml in the first place |
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| 18:18:59 | <haskellbridge> | <Kyle Butt> Trying to reach as wide an audience as possible: I am seeking to take over maintainership of the cql and cql-io packages: https://discourse.haskell.org/t/taking-over-cql-and-cql-io/12397 |
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| 18:41:11 | <[exa]> | Kyle Butt: good luck there |
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| 18:44:54 | <[exa]> | Kyle Butt: btw it's super useful to link everything you claim in the post (important additions); and also great to have some kind of a proof that you tried to contact and waited for a while (open an issue in the repository or so, so that it can be seen as hanging, AND link it to discourse) |
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| 18:51:15 | <[exa]> | Kyle Butt: I see the link there, perfect :) |
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| 19:29:25 | <[exa]> | hm so I see there's Unfoldable class https://hackage.haskell.org/package/unfoldable-1.0.1/docs/Data-Unfoldable.html . Are there any cases of stuff that are Unfoldable but not Traversable ? |
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| 20:54:26 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: Endo? |
| 20:55:06 | <tomsmeding> | I feel like if Unfoldable has any laws, the only possible 'instance Unfoldable Endo' is liable to break them, but not sure |
| 20:55:28 | <tomsmeding> | but I'm quite sure Endo is not Traversable, in any case |
| 20:56:36 | tomsmeding | is not even sure how to intuitively think about that Unfoldable class |
| 20:57:02 | <[exa]> | yeah to me it looks like "could just run traverse over state", not really sure where that could break |
| 20:57:16 | <[exa]> | infinite trees would break it operationally but that's all I could come up with |
| 20:57:32 | <tomsmeding> | but infinite trees would also break Traversable |
| 20:58:53 | <tomsmeding> | (the Endo instance is 'unfold = fmap (Endo . const)') |
| 20:59:02 | <tomsmeding> | (fairly sure there is no other total instance) |
| 20:59:11 | <tomsmeding> | (stuff's too polymorphic) |
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| 21:00:44 | <tomsmeding> | okay I thought about it a bit more, and my Endo instance does kind of work with the intent of the class: given a way to generate an 'a', it describes how you can generate an 'Endo a' |
| 21:01:00 | <tomsmeding> | it's just that there's (for most 'a') a boatload of values of 'Endo a' that this will not generate |
| 21:01:16 | <tomsmeding> | so it's not a very _good_ generator, but it is technically a generator |
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| 21:07:16 | <tomsmeding> | [exa]: but I don't really understand what you mean with "could just run traverse over state"; what would you traverse over? 'unfold' does not get a t as input, it has to produce one |
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| 21:10:14 | <[exa]> | yeah I somehow pre-assumed that |
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| 21:11:17 | <[exa]> | (as in, I completely neglected the ability to actually create the structure, and that's the point.) |
| 21:11:22 | <[exa]> | ok good, answered. thanks. :D |
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| 21:19:51 | <EvanR> | actually creating values or structures? overrated |
| 21:20:00 | <EvanR> | type level is all you need |
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