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Logs on 2025-07-04 (liberachat/#haskell)

00:06:21 <statusbot12> Maintenance update: Expect a half hour of downtime for a planned reboot. -- http://status.haskell.org/pages/maintenance/537c07b0cf1fad5830000093/68671ada71848544434d2462
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00:16:24 <Nosrep> sobbing
00:16:31 <Nosrep> my docs
00:16:51 <Nosrep> wayback will have to do
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00:37:13 <statusbot12> Maintenance update: Hackage is back up after planned maintenance restart. -- http://status.haskell.org/pages/maintenance/537c07b0cf1fad5830000093/68671ada71848544434d2462
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00:46:44 <Nosrep> three cheers
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01:11:25 <haskellbridge> <Axman6> [exa]: "there's nothing to really understand, just tech debt" yeah that does an excellent job of summing up my feelings. It's so depressing. I'm particularly hampered by needing to use pyinstaller to create binaries for windows, linux and macOS, which brings all sorts of new restrictions and unexpected behaviour.
01:12:01 <haskellbridge> <Axman6> @irc_libera.chat_kuribas:kf8nh.com: Yeah I'm trying to move things to use uv, in the past I failed but seem to have made some progress after ditching any involvement of poetry
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01:31:33 <glguy> uv as in libuv?
01:32:25 <Axman6> Sadly no
01:33:00 <Axman6> uv as in python's answer to https://xkcd.com/927/ around standardising package management
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01:39:05 <Axman6> hackage is semi-down :( (looks like some things might be coming from cache but not everything)
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06:09:00 <[exa]> Axman6: "python's answer" rofl
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16:29:19 <ii8> How do I stop builds failing because of -Werror? I'm using cabal and can't seem to turn off -Werror
16:31:20 <lxsameer> ii8: -Wno-error?
16:32:28 <Leary> ii8: `-Wwarn`
16:33:51 <ii8> Yea I tried those. Is there a way to make them apply to all dependencies on the cabal command line?
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16:35:29 <ii8> I tried `package * \n ghc-options: -optc-w -optc-Wno-error` in cabal.project.local, but it still fails from warnings
16:36:46 <Leary> Not that I'm aware of. I would hope that whichever dependency it is exposes a flag to disable it.
16:40:41 <ii8> The dependency is HSOpenSSL
16:41:20 <ii8> Getting errors like this: /tmp/ghc9153_0/ghc_206.c:13:174: error: warning: return discards 'const' qualifier from pointer target type [-Wdiscarded-qualifiers]
16:41:38 <ii8> I don't see a flag for it
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17:09:09 <merijn> ii8: That's an error from your C compiler
17:09:48 <merijn> ii8: By the looks of it while it's trying to do something like c2hsc or some other C wrapping codegen
17:10:44 <merijn> -optc-Wno-error is not gonna do anything, because I don't think that's a real flag in either gcc or clang?
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17:19:15 <geekosaur> no, it's s ghc flag (see that they used ghc-options) to pass an option to the C compiler
17:19:39 <geekosaur> but they actually need to change the options c2hs/hsc2hs uses
17:19:58 <geekosaur> or maybe cabal is doing the build itself and cc-flags needs to be changed
17:22:37 <geekosaur> okay, it has cbits, try cc-options instead of ghc-options (removing the -optc)
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17:24:50 <geekosaur> (formally, the cabal file has `c-sources` which cabal builds directly, so you want to change `cc-options`)
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17:32:15 <ii8> geekosaur: Doesn't seem to understand that, Error: cabal: unrecognized 'configure' option `--cc-option'
17:33:15 <ii8> I tried cc-options: in the cabal.project.local file too
17:34:35 <int-e> ii8: have you chec
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17:35:21 <int-e> have you checked that this is the only error? Because when I try to compile HsOpenSSL there's a slew of *actual* errors relating to changes to OpenSSL 3.0 that precede that weird error: warning: line
17:36:12 <int-e> (there's also no -Werror anywhere in sight, compiling with cabal -v)
17:36:59 <ii8> There are a lot of errors yea. I can't see any that aren't caused by warnings, but I haven't checked each one
17:37:40 <ii8> Yea that is curious, I didn't find a -Werror either, but it still errors on warnings
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17:38:57 <ii8> So the cc-options goes in the package.cabal file I think, but of course I don't have access to that one because it's a dependency
17:39:14 <ii8> and in cabal.project files it doesn't work
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17:48:49 <int-e> GHC does some weird rewriting of the C compiler output too. https://paste.tomsmeding.com/uMEVzvs4 ... note that the GCC output (at the bottom) has no weird error: [newline] warning: stuff
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17:50:52 <int-e> and far less duplication
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17:51:37 <geekosaur> dammit, looks like it's one of those flags not supported in project files. please file a Cabal bug
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17:56:57 <int-e> ii8: Anyway. At least for me, there are quite a few actual errors, and I'm pretty sure you'll find at least one too if you keep looking .
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17:58:17 <geekosaur> fwiw I got of "deprecated in OpenSSL 3.0" warnings but didn't see any real errors
17:58:24 <geekosaur> * a lot of
17:59:03 <int-e> the first one is error: passing argument 2 of ‘RSA_get0_crt_params’ from incompatible pointer type [...]
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17:59:43 <int-e> (for me)
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18:06:19 <int-e> Obviously something terrible *is* going on here... GHC is, I think, parsing the compiler output to extract location information, and then builds its own *error* message with that location information, and the original compiler output. So you get GHC saying <file>:line:char: error:, then whatever the C compiler actually output minus the parsed location, and then a visual indicator of the location...
18:06:25 <int-e> ...added by GHC, which is redundant when the C compiler also has one...
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18:06:31 <int-e> It's awful to read.
18:06:56 <int-e> But... no, compilation isn't failing because the C compiler produced a warning. There's an error to find in there too.
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18:08:03 <int-e> It's also worth noting that when using -Werror, the C compilers don't use the word "warning" at all.
18:08:41 <int-e> (both clang and gcc just say error: *instead of* warning: in this case)
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18:12:20 <ii8> Oh I see, that makes more sense
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18:13:51 <int-e> That said, you also wanted to inject -optc-w and the output of cabal build --ghc-options=-optc-w is indeed much more to the point.
18:15:32 <int-e> (It's just `cabal build` for me because I'm testing this in after `cabal unpack HsOpenSSL` because that makes it easier to actually replicate the executed commands.)
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18:39:19 <ii8> int-e: alright ty, that's enlightening
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