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Logs on 2025-07-22 (liberachat/#haskell)

00:02:54 × machinedgod quits (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
00:04:28 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
00:08:11 → be8bcca2f3 joins (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3)
00:09:20 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
00:13:37 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
00:20:06 × ljdarj quits (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
00:21:41 → rvalue joins (~rvalue@about/hackers/rvalue)
00:23:01 → ljdarj joins (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj)
00:24:41 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
00:28:58 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
00:29:58 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
00:31:27 → be8bcca2f3 joins (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3)
00:35:48 × ljdarj quits (~Thunderbi@user/ljdarj) (Quit: ljdarj)
00:36:31 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
00:37:28 → be8bcca2f3 joins (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3)
00:40:05 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
00:42:04 → Frostillicus joins (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
00:45:12 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
00:55:28 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
00:59:57 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
01:01:19 × ttybitnik quits (~ttybitnik@user/wolper) (Quit: Fading out...)
01:03:15 × caubert quits (~caubert@user/caubert) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
01:04:07 → savouryOnion joins (~savouryOn@176.75.108.200)
01:06:58 × trickard_ quits (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
01:07:10 → trickard_ joins (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
01:10:57 → weary-traveler joins (~user@user/user363627)
01:11:00 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
01:11:27 → ryanbooker joins (uid4340@id-4340.hampstead.irccloud.com)
01:13:00 × xff0x quits (~xff0x@2405:6580:b080:900:b4a:f806:ddbd:3003) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
01:15:28 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
01:16:57 → caubert joins (~caubert@user/caubert)
01:26:23 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
01:31:27 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
01:32:18 → trickard__ joins (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
01:33:42 × trickard_ quits (~trickard@cpe-62-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
01:38:28 → machinedgod joins (~machinedg@d75-159-126-101.abhsia.telus.net)
01:40:56 × Frostillicus quits (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
01:41:37 → Frostillicus joins (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
01:41:45 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
01:45:58 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
01:54:17 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
01:58:38 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
01:58:41 × savouryOnion quits (~savouryOn@176.75.108.200) (Quit: Client closed)
01:58:46 × trickard__ quits (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
01:59:00 → trickard_ joins (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
02:03:40 × trickard_ quits (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
02:05:00 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
02:06:21 → harveypwca joins (~harveypwc@2601:246:d080:f6e0:27d6:8cc7:eca9:c46c)
02:06:23 → xff0x joins (~xff0x@fsb6a9491c.tkyc517.ap.nuro.jp)
02:09:39 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
02:09:57 → trickard_ joins (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
02:13:47 × trickard_ quits (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
02:14:23 → be8bcca2f3 joins (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3)
02:16:28 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
02:20:32 → trickard_ joins (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
02:25:30 × Unicorn_Princess quits (~Unicorn_P@user/Unicorn-Princess/x-3540542) (Remote host closed the connection)
02:27:43 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
02:31:58 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
02:33:28 × YoungFrog quits (~youngfrog@2a02:a03f:ca07:f900:370f:ab1f:208a:3fc) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-git-3-96481995 - https://znc.in)
02:33:48 → YoungFrog joins (~youngfrog@39.129-180-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
02:41:31 × vanishingideal quits (~vanishing@user/vanishingideal) (Remote host closed the connection)
02:43:03 → peterbecich joins (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
02:43:06 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
02:47:46 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
02:51:47 × peterbecich quits (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
02:58:27 → ciadsyyyl^ joins (~ciadsyyyl@99-73-20-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net)
02:58:35 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
03:01:50 × trickard_ quits (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
03:02:04 → trickard_ joins (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au)
03:03:17 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
03:13:58 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
03:18:19 × rvalue quits (~rvalue@about/hackers/rvalue) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
03:18:34 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
03:18:46 → rvalue joins (~rvalue@about/hackers/rvalue)
03:20:51 × ryanbooker quits (uid4340@id-4340.hampstead.irccloud.com) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
03:23:10 × distopico quits (~cerdolibr@xvm-111-150.dc2.ghst.net) (Quit: Bye..)
03:25:58 → distopico joins (~cerdolibr@xvm-111-150.dc2.ghst.net)
03:27:39 × harveypwca quits (~harveypwc@2601:246:d080:f6e0:27d6:8cc7:eca9:c46c) (Quit: Leaving)
03:29:28 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
03:34:09 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
03:35:44 → jjanzen joins (~user@user/jjanzen)
03:44:56 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
03:49:12 trickard_ is now known as trickard
03:51:28 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
03:54:33 × Frostillicus quits (~Frostilli@pool-71-174-119-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
03:55:18 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
03:59:28 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
04:00:07 × Guest93 quits (~Guest93@29.28.219.201.static.anycast.cnt-grms.ec) (Quit: Client closed)
04:00:52 → Lycurgus joins (~juan@user/Lycurgus)
04:02:10 × humasect quits (~humasect@dyn-192-249-132-90.nexicom.net) (Quit: Leaving...)
04:03:33 × haritz quits (~hrtz@user/haritz) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
04:05:38 × jjanzen quits (~user@user/jjanzen) (Quit: leaving)
04:09:09 → haritz joins (~hrtz@2a01:4b00:bc2e:7000:d5af:a266:ca31:5ef8)
04:09:10 × haritz quits (~hrtz@2a01:4b00:bc2e:7000:d5af:a266:ca31:5ef8) (Changing host)
04:09:10 → haritz joins (~hrtz@user/haritz)
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04:14:24 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
04:15:17 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
04:26:05 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
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04:30:23 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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04:36:44 × ciadsyyyl^ quits (~ciadsyyyl@99-73-20-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) (Remote host closed the connection)
04:41:33 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
04:45:58 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
04:46:25 × Lycurgus quits (~juan@user/Lycurgus) (Quit: irc.renjuan.org (juan@acm.org))
04:53:47 → peterbecich joins (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
04:56:18 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
05:00:58 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
05:03:18 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
05:10:05 → michalz joins (~michalz@185.246.207.205)
05:11:47 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
05:16:45 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
05:25:46 × Square3 quits (~Square4@user/square) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
05:27:11 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
05:32:01 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
05:33:00 × peterbecich quits (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
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05:39:42 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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05:44:14 × hughjfchen quits (~hughjfche@vmi2417424.contaboserver.net) (Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3)
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05:48:05 × hughjfchen quits (~hughjfche@vmi2417424.contaboserver.net) (Client Quit)
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05:57:53 × trickard quits (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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06:01:28 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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06:06:09 → takuan joins (~takuan@d8D86B9E9.access.telenet.be)
06:12:40 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
06:17:36 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
06:19:01 × jrm quits (~jrm@user/jrm) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
06:20:51 → peterbecich joins (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com)
06:28:09 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
06:34:58 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
06:38:59 → be8bcca2f3 joins (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3)
06:39:32 trickard_ is now known as trickard
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06:43:29 × be8bcca2f3 quits (~be8bcca2f@user/be8bcca2f3) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
06:44:47 × trickard quits (~trickard@cpe-53-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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06:54:26 × weary-traveler quits (~user@user/user363627) (Remote host closed the connection)
06:56:18 × Sgeo quits (~Sgeo@user/sgeo) (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
06:58:17 → CiaoSen joins (~Jura@2a02:8071:64e1:da0:5a47:caff:fe78:33db)
06:58:17 → merijn joins (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl)
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07:00:00 × caconym74 quits (~caconym@user/caconym) (Quit: bye)
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07:02:53 × merijn quits (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
07:03:28 × peterbecich quits (~Thunderbi@syn-047-229-123-186.res.spectrum.com) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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07:14:18 × prdak quits (~Thunderbi@user/prdak) (Quit: prdak)
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07:58:04 trickard_ is now known as trickard
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18:08:53 <halloy9044> hello guys. I'm new here. What is the best client for IRC?
18:10:29 <halloy9044> can you even see past messages?
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18:12:20 <ethereal_> this seems pretty complicated
18:14:06 <EvanR> IRC relays chat, and other messages
18:14:39 <ethereal_> what do you mean?
18:14:39 <EvanR> there's no central database of all IRC traffic
18:14:47 <ethereal_> ah okay
18:15:06 <EvanR> IRC is a distributed chat network
18:15:16 <EvanR> your client might have a thing to log everything you see
18:15:28 <mauke> well, this channel is also logged
18:15:29 <EvanR> the topic has a link to a log for this channel specifically
18:15:48 <ethereal_> mhm... I think it does automatically log, because i just restarted and it logged my messages at least :)
18:16:00 <ethereal_> IRC is also distributed? like xmpp?
18:16:26 <EvanR> each network may have multiple servers but you normally don't notice
18:16:43 <ethereal_> a link to log for this channel? guess i will have to check it out to understand
18:16:43 <EvanR> unless a netsplit happens
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18:16:48 <mauke> there is no federation to third parties as far as I know
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18:17:08 <ethereal_> ok
18:17:15 <EvanR> /topic shows the topic in case your client doesn't show it
18:17:30 <mauke> logs: https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lchaskell
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18:18:02 <ethereal_> ahh now i see what you mean
18:18:04 <mauke> wow, that's a lot of dead traffic
18:18:21 <mauke> does ircbrowse have an option to hide joins/parts/quits?
18:18:24 <EvanR> unlike what the IRC documentary Numb3rs says, everything you say may be in fact be logged
18:19:03 <EvanR> so don't do national security sensitive activity in here
18:19:17 <ethereal_> never planned to... lol
18:19:24 <EvanR> I know who would do that
18:19:33 <ethereal_> what?
18:19:37 <EvanR> nvm
18:19:41 <ethereal_> haha ok
18:19:52 <ethereal_> @mauke i thought so too
18:19:52 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
18:20:00 <ethereal_> what?
18:20:10 <ethereal_> half the logs feels like just join and quit
18:20:21 <EvanR> the bot interpreted your message as a command
18:20:30 <ethereal_> btw how to tag people? can you even "reply" to messages
18:20:36 <EvanR> to "at" people just put their nick, or tab complete it, followed by a colon or comma
18:20:47 <EvanR> ethereal_, like that
18:20:53 <ethereal_> EvanR hi
18:20:56 <ethereal_> what
18:21:02 <ethereal_> oh did it work?
18:21:05 <EvanR> that caused by client to notify me
18:21:08 <EvanR> my client
18:21:31 <ethereal_> ah i see. Looked different on my client, so i thought it might not have worked, but great
18:21:48 <ethereal_> i suppose no way to reply to a message?
18:21:55 <mauke> correct
18:22:02 <mauke> it's all just messages
18:22:15 <mauke> any highlighting or notification is client side
18:22:21 <EvanR> in this channel the bot can remember a message for someone who left and might come back
18:22:26 <mauke> ethereal_: let's see if yours marks "replies"
18:22:35 <ethereal_> damn, i get it. but it feels like xmpp's mistake all over again
18:22:52 <EvanR> IRC predates all of those technologies. It's pretty old
18:22:56 <ethereal_> mauke: doesn't :( but i get the first one i can find
18:23:17 <ethereal_> EvanR: yeah true fair enough
18:23:30 <EvanR> ethereal_, if this isn't highlighted or notifying you your client sucks
18:23:47 <mauke> https://halloy.chat/configuration/highlights.html
18:23:52 <ethereal_> it is, but barely ._.
18:23:54 <mauke> might need to be configured manually
18:24:00 <ethereal_> ahh yeah halloy is what i use rn
18:24:08 <ethereal_> is there anything better you guys can recommend
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18:25:14 <EvanR> I was wondering... https://bitchx.sourceforge.net/category/screenshots.html looks like it's still around
18:25:18 <mauke> hah. depends on your preferences. how are you with terminal applications?
18:25:36 <mauke> I've never used halloy, so I can't say how it compares, but I'm using irssi
18:25:52 <ethereal_> i would love something in the terminal
18:25:57 <mauke> https://irssi.org/
18:25:59 <EvanR> irssi and weechat were pretty common for a long time
18:26:08 <ethereal_> but my 2 seconds online search did not gave me much to work with
18:26:18 <ethereal_> alr ill look into irssi
18:26:21 <EvanR> search engines don't work anymore
18:26:27 <mauke> I've heard weechat is newer/shinier than irssi, but I didn't feel like switching
18:26:50 <ethereal_> EvanR: never worked in the first place
18:26:59 <EvanR> I beg to differ
18:27:05 <mauke> also, I dimly remember something stupid in its scripting API
18:28:17 <ethereal_> mhmm i will stick with irssi first
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18:30:10 <mauke> https://libera.chat/guides/clients
18:30:17 <mauke> lists a few other options
18:30:53 <mauke> also, on libera.chat specifically, you can register an account/nickname: https://libera.chat/guides/registration
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18:35:07 <ethereal_> oh nice
18:36:01 <mauke> on classic IRC, if you want to keep the same nick, you just have to stay connected 24/7 :-D
18:36:24 <ethereal_> haha well that's another way
18:36:47 <ethereal_> well lemme see if i can switch over now
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18:37:26 <ethereal_> the good old underscore trick
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18:40:02 <ethereal1> test
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18:40:52 <ethereal1> oh boy how do i change my nick
18:41:05 <monochrom> There is a /nick command
18:41:08 <EvanR> /nick whatever
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18:41:21 <ethereal_> test
18:41:30 <ethereal_> oh what, this was easier than i thought. stupid me
18:41:44 <EvanR> someone else might be using your desired name, or have it registered with NickServ
18:41:53 <ethereal_> yeah ethereal was taken
18:41:54 <ethereal_> i think
18:42:07 <EvanR> some channels don't let you even talk without registering the nick, either way it's a good idea
18:42:10 <__monty__> ethereal_: Glirc is another TUI IRC client.
18:42:17 <monochrom> More generally, consult the docs of your irc client, or browse around the menus if it has a GUI.
18:42:48 <ethereal_> oh okay, i will check it out __monty__
18:43:00 <__monty__> The network sites also tend to have helpful docs.
18:43:19 <ethereal_> yep makes sense
18:43:44 glguy gets pinged https://ibb.co/LdTsw3K6
18:43:47 <mauke> also, if you saw anything about a "CTCP VERSION" request, that was me checking your client
18:44:03 <ethereal_> oh okay
18:44:09 <ethereal_> no i didnt see anything :D
18:44:15 <mauke> might be in the server window
18:44:34 <mauke> alt-1, assuming default config
18:44:46 <mauke> or ctrl-p/ctrl-n to scroll through tabs
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18:45:11 <ethereal_> ahhh yeah ctrl p did the trick
18:45:34 <EvanR> there's too much activity on the network to reasonably filter out, so I just look at it encoded like The Matrix
18:45:42 <mauke> haha
18:47:04 <ethereal_> oh boy
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18:54:04 <ethereal_> well, quite complicated stuff
18:54:14 <ethereal_> will have to figure out the rest some other day. time to get back to haskell
18:55:21 <mauke> > concat ["y", "a", "y"]
18:55:23 <lambdabot> "yay"
18:55:31 <ethereal_> what
18:55:37 <ethereal_> ahhh so thats what the bot is for
18:56:14 <mauke> among other things, yes :-)
18:56:30 <mauke> @type concat
18:56:31 <lambdabot> Foldable t => t [a] -> [a]
18:56:46 <ethereal_> pretty awesome
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18:58:22 <ethereal_> stupid question, but how do you scroll in irssi
18:59:03 <int-e> page up/down?
18:59:22 <ethereal_> dont have
18:59:29 <mauke> alt-p/alt-n
18:59:46 <ethereal_> thanks! awesome
19:00:18 <ethereal_> int-e: sitting here with my old laptop
19:00:36 <int-e> ethereal_: and no Fn modifier?
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19:01:02 <monochrom> The docs would have a large section on how to set up key bindings.
19:01:14 <monochrom> or to discover existing ones.
19:01:15 <ethereal_> int-e: yes, but no fn key for that :(
19:01:34 <mauke> https://irssi.org/documentation/help/bind_-list/
19:01:41 <__monty__> My page up/down are fn+arrow keys.
19:01:44 <mauke> bit unwieldy, though
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19:02:45 <ethereal_> mauke: yeah but its like a super old laptop and small, so i guess its due to the keyboard size
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19:15:49 <[exa]> ethereal_: IRC is about roleplaying a normal chat, I don't speak colors nor formatted text :]
19:15:57 <[exa]> (also barely remember what I said 2 hours ago)
19:17:04 <ethereal_> [exa]: mhmm yeah, i think i slowly get it now
19:17:14 <ethereal_> but it's actually pretty fun
19:18:25 <[exa]> anyway
19:18:42 <[exa]> is there something recommendable for visualizing various pointy data structures?
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19:20:03 <EvanR> ghc-vis
19:20:26 <EvanR> https://dennis.felsing.org/ghc-vis/
19:20:52 <[exa]> uuuuuh that's very relevant
19:21:06 <mauke> IRC was originally modelled on CB radio
19:21:17 <mauke> hence why we talk on "channels"
19:21:34 <mauke> (also, channels used to be numbered, not named)
19:22:55 <EvanR> my frequency is 140.85
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19:28:55 <[exa]> EvanR: oh great it handles loopy data nicely
19:28:57 <[exa]> thank
19:28:59 <[exa]> *s
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20:30:00 <tomsmeding> [exa]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4lnCG18TaY
20:30:08 <tomsmeding> sounds like you don't need it but just in case
20:30:53 <[exa]> tomsmeding: was not aiming at haskell data actually
20:31:26 <tomsmeding> ah
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20:31:42 <[exa]> but it actually helps because I can reuse their plotting stuff :D
20:31:47 <tomsmeding> neat!
20:32:07 <[exa]> (spoiler: I'm trying to do a versioned union-find, pointers all over :D :D )
20:32:13 <tomsmeding> ooh
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20:39:33 <EvanR> I'm glad we intuitively arrived at the same meaning for "pointy data"
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20:53:49 <r-sta> hi. following advice from #haskell i have switched IDEs from notepad to VSCode after 17 years
20:54:07 <r-sta> i have replaced all mentions of unsafeperformio + randomRIO
20:54:17 <r-sta> now my code breaks uniformly every time
20:54:21 <r-sta> great success
20:54:35 <r-sta> now i am ready to find which line of code is responsible for the <<loop>>
20:54:40 <Rembane> \o/
20:54:44 <Rembane> Congratulations!
20:54:50 <r-sta> your welcome!
20:55:36 <r-sta> unfortunately for us, not only has this retrospectively caused years of wasted time from my perspective, it also leaves us without adiquate profiling
20:55:54 <r-sta> but a nudge in the right direction should come at any expense, Am I Right !?
20:56:23 <r-sta> lets here it for the designers of VSCode
20:56:28 <r-sta> and the GHC team
20:56:37 <r-sta> for this fantastic colaberation
20:56:51 <monochrom> If you want some kind of stack trace upon exception (loop is one of them), you can use: ghc -prof -fprof-auto ... . Run the exe like: myexe +RTS -xc
20:56:51 <r-sta> which sent me to hospital
20:57:03 <r-sta> my meds had a typo
20:57:14 <r-sta> sNRI vs SNRI
20:57:19 <r-sta> its case sensitive apparently
20:57:23 <r-sta> a syntax error
20:57:30 <r-sta> the GHC team should be more careful IMO
20:57:32 <monochrom> However, the functions names in the stack trace may or may not be familiar.
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20:57:56 <r-sta> i normally run using cabal run
20:58:25 <r-sta> cabal build launch-starship --ghc-options="-prof -fprof-auto"
20:58:56 <r-sta> brb
20:59:51 <monochrom> If cabal, you can just say --enable-profiling
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21:01:14 <monochrom> Maybe `cabal run --enable-profiling launch-starship -- +RTS -xc` but I have not tested that.
21:01:31 <r-sta> whats the RTS xs bit?
21:01:35 <r-sta> xc*
21:02:15 <tomsmeding> +RTS -xc tells the haskell executable to print a stacktrace on every thrown exception
21:02:25 <monochrom> See the GHC user's guide.
21:02:26 <r-sta> (its just busy compiling with the --enable-profiling version now)
21:02:30 <tomsmeding> --enable-profiling tells cabal to tell ghc to create an executable that is able to do that
21:02:57 <tomsmeding> https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/profiling.html#rts-flag-xc
21:03:11 <r-sta> ok so one flag enables it to be possible and the other tells it to do so
21:03:18 <r-sta> thx
21:03:31 <tomsmeding> an executable built for profiling can do more than just this, but yes
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21:06:29 <r-sta> holy bjesus it prints a bunch of text
21:06:51 <ethereal_> :quit coming back tomorrow
21:07:00 <ethereal_> uh dang wrong command
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21:07:15 <tomsmeding> r-sta: yes, most exceptions in a haskell program are caught :)
21:08:49 <r-sta> so how do i read this? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/UhYGeBIH
21:09:34 <tomsmeding> r-sta: likely you just look at the last trace in that list
21:09:45 <r-sta> main...
21:10:03 <tomsmeding> inner call is at the top
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21:10:59 <r-sta> im not seeing any loops
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21:11:54 <tomsmeding> when debugging something where you have no clue what's going on, general advice is: make the program smaller
21:11:55 <monochrom> Perhaps examine Store.writeStore
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21:12:44 <monochrom> Err, Store.save
21:14:11 <r-sta> it has never given any troubles
21:14:17 <r-sta> its certainly not looping
21:14:25 <tomsmeding> the problem is probably elsewhere somewhere
21:14:31 <r-sta> i added part of the code involving cursor which i see mentioned
21:14:32 <tomsmeding> make the program smaller
21:14:37 <r-sta> but that module doesnt contain the loop
21:14:42 <r-sta> tomsmedling: impossible
21:14:47 <r-sta> infathomable
21:14:55 <r-sta> i dont even know where half the code is!
21:14:57 <tomsmeding> cut out like half of the main loop of the game (?)
21:15:29 <tomsmeding> if that fixes the problem, cut the other half instead :)
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21:15:38 <r-sta> like i say - impossible https://paste.tomsmeding.com/QTnHNCKW
21:16:07 <r-sta> it contains all the machine learning routines for the entire future!
21:16:15 <tomsmeding> go into main and remove half of it
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21:16:32 <r-sta> !?
21:16:33 <tomsmeding> if that doesn't work because it's just one line calling other stuff, go there and remove half of that instead
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21:17:02 <tomsmeding> well, the alternative is staring at the code you've added and cross-referencing with the stacktrace to see if there's any commonalities :p
21:17:13 <tomsmeding> but it seems you're already trying that, so I'm offering an alternative
21:17:13 <r-sta> i can put undefineds around the place and it seems to allow me to get to one part where if i commute the error accross a (.) then it either breaks or doesnt
21:17:23 <r-sta> but from that point i cant see the loop!
21:17:28 <tomsmeding> share the code?
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21:19:55 <tomsmeding> r-sta: another idea: see if the backtrace becomes more helpful if you pass --disable-optimization to cabal
21:20:15 <tomsmeding> I'm not sure if this helps much because I haven't debugged this kind of stuff much, but it's worth a try
21:21:01 <tomsmeding> r-sta: oh, and --profiling-detail=all-functions
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21:22:49 <monochrom> I have seen small examples where even with -O0 the stack trace does not say the name you expect. It's "main = print x where x::Integer; x=x+1" and the stack trace just says Main.CAF instead of "x".
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21:24:40 <monochrom> Although, that should be blamed on -fprof-auto. If you hand-add cost centres, you can choose better names.
21:25:58 <monochrom> Err I'm wrong, it does say "x".
21:26:57 <tomsmeding> monochrom: the default in cabal if you --enable-profiling is _not_ -fprof-auto these days, it's "exported-functions for libraries and toplevel-functions for executables"
21:27:06 <tomsmeding> perhaps this is relevant?
21:27:31 <tomsmeding> https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/stable/cabal-project-description-file.html#cfg-flag---profiling-detail
21:27:32 <monochrom> I used ghc -fprof-auto directly :)
21:27:42 <tomsmeding> I know, but perhaps you're recalling situations where you were using cabal
21:28:14 <tomsmeding> that would be consistent with what you just wrote
21:28:39 <monochrom> I had -O1
21:29:26 <r-sta> yeah i had -)2
21:29:31 <r-sta> O2
21:29:42 <monochrom> It's fantastic. The optimizer even simplified x=x+1 to x=x because why not.
21:30:04 <tomsmeding> lol
21:30:44 <tomsmeding> yeah it does so already at -O1
21:30:52 <tomsmeding> it's not wrong
21:30:55 <r-sta> share the AGI
21:31:17 <r-sta> i asked for help with it ages ago as a comunity project but there wasnt much uptake so i took it inhouse instead
21:31:36 <r-sta> would always be prepared to open it up, but id have to lop off some propritary stuff...
21:32:23 <r-sta> ok.. another 5 min compile
21:32:56 <mauke> AGI? is this another templeos situation?
21:33:16 <r-sta> ...
21:33:31 <r-sta> well i would need permission to talk about it since its considered offtopic
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21:33:41 <r-sta> sam altman can get half a trillion from softbank
21:33:48 <r-sta> and i just something something softbank
21:34:08 <r-sta> been working on it with tim sweeny recently which has been fun, hes great
21:35:10 <r-sta> tldr we spent ages trying to get parametric automorphisms to do stick steering, and found it was faster to just turn on a dime and do strait line extension, since local gradient discovery is quite cheap with a monte carlo walk
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21:35:27 <r-sta> (that was with john carmack)
21:35:39 <r-sta> i mean, we have enough game devs!
21:35:58 <r-sta> i wanted to do it with the haskellers though because it could have been a selling point for the language
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21:37:49 <r-sta> elon basically quit since the american senate gets so much political capitol from popping off about blue hats
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21:38:00 <r-sta> real shame
21:39:49 <r-sta> cant see much here...
21:39:50 <r-sta> https://paste.tomsmeding.com/vwxacPLn
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21:41:09 <r-sta> i was hoping it would basically like step through each function cal down to the smallest level, but it doesnt
21:41:26 <r-sta> okok, im gona rage quit at this point, will try again tomorrow
21:41:31 <r-sta> thanks for the help as ever
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21:44:28 <int-e> wtf happened in the past 10 minutes
21:44:42 <Rembane> I think we got visited by aliens.
21:44:49 <geekosaur> didn't we ban that person at least once?
21:45:06 <int-e> you did
21:47:38 <geekosaur> right, they switched to a different provider to evade the ban
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21:48:55 <monochrom> In C I had "unsigned b = 1, c = 0; while (b != 0) { b *= 2 1; c++}; print c;". gcc -O2 compiled that to: L2: goto L2; XD
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21:51:35 <int-e> monochrom: unsigned should work fine. (assuming that's a b *= 2; )
21:52:21 <int-e> but if you do this with signed integers you'll get burned by singed overflow being undefined behavior.
21:52:40 <monochrom> Right, I misremembered. I have now checked my old files. It was really: int b = 1, c = 0; while (b >= 0) {b *= 2; ++c}
21:53:07 <mauke> weird that it left the loop in
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21:53:53 <int-e> true, it could drop it all fall through to the next function, if any
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21:54:35 <int-e> ("next" in the resulting binary)
21:56:10 <monochrom> -O1 is the funny one. It became: while (c < 31) {c++;}
21:56:40 <int-e> should be <= ?
21:56:54 <int-e> (I assume you're reading assembly)
21:57:16 <monochrom> It's really < . cmpl. Also I printed out the final c, it prints 31.
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21:57:44 <int-e> Oh, still with `int` I guess. So stopping right before the undefined behavior occurs...
21:58:27 <int-e> I guess that's what you get if you don't realize that c++ always terminates
21:58:55 <int-e> Anyway. It occurs to me that this isn't Haskell :-)
22:00:21 <monochrom> Yeah it started with GHC -O compiling "x=x+1" to "x=x". :)
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