Logs on 2025-08-09 (liberachat/#haskell)
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| 00:10:18 | <haskellbridge> | <orenty7> EvanR, I haven't seen any posts against them. Could you please share a link? |
| 00:10:43 | <EvanR> | this is anecdotal |
| 00:10:47 | <haskellbridge> | <orenty7> Leary, iirc Coq/Rocq was developed slightly earlier, if that counts. The theory itself (MLTT) was published 10 years before |
| 00:11:09 | <EvanR> | many people have tried dependent types and find it too difficult, unless there's some specific thing you're trying to accomplish |
| 00:11:37 | <EvanR> | why this is is up for debate, tooling? fundamental problems? |
| 00:11:49 | <EvanR> | marketing? xD |
| 00:13:10 | <geekosaur> | I should mention that adding dependent types to Haskell does not mean shoving them down everyone's throats. Notwithstanding fears that the Prelude will become dependently typed |
| 00:13:14 | <Leary> | orenty7: Contrary to popular belief, there's a difference between theorem provers and programming languages. |
| 00:13:42 | <geekosaur> | (either it'll be a separate prelude like linear haskell uses, or it just won't happen at all) |
| 00:14:50 | <geekosaur> | eisenber's thesis is about adding dependent types *without* breaking Haskell-as-we-know-it, and dependent types are intended as a support for people who want to do type level programming, not for theorem proving |
| 00:15:03 | <geekosaur> | I think a lot of people misunderstand this |
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| 00:15:47 | <geekosaur> | *Eisenberg's |
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| 01:23:48 | <hololeap> | for some reason when I call 'tick' from ascii-progress, it my program hangs |
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| 01:25:05 | <hololeap> | issues like this in haskell are very frustrating because I have no idea what to do |
| 01:26:22 | <hololeap> | I am parsing the output of an external command, and I have the total number of lines precomputed. I'm just trying to show a progress bar that updates as each line is parsed |
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| 01:28:11 | <hololeap> | and, for those investigating, yes I have it wrapped inside displayConsoleRegions |
| 01:28:27 | <hololeap> | I also have -threaded in ghc-options |
| 01:30:25 | <hololeap> | I also have -threaded in ghc-options |
| 01:30:28 | <hololeap> | oops sorry |
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| 01:31:02 | <hololeap> | I guess it's not 'tick'. I have no idea what it is |
| 01:31:11 | <hololeap> | it just hangs for some reason |
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| 01:34:43 | <hololeap> | there's too many variables for something as simple as this. 1) use a streaming library 2) make sure you have hSetBuffering set to NoBuffering 3) make sure you're building with -threaded 4) make sure you're using laziness correctly 5) who knows |
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| 02:29:31 | <hololeap> | ok. it looks like the issue is that I'm not using lineAsciiC from conduit correctly, and I'm not sure how it's supposed to be used |
| 02:30:16 | <hololeap> | I want to split the ByteString stream into individual chunks that are split on '\n' |
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| 02:36:13 | <hololeap> | the issue was that I should have been using linesUnboundedAsciiC |
| 02:36:21 | <hololeap> | sorry I got frustrated |
| 02:36:37 | <hololeap> | the progress bar is still not working but at least it's no longer haning |
| 02:36:42 | <hololeap> | *hanging |
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| 13:48:28 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> hololeap: are you maintainer of gentoo's haskell overlay? |
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| 15:56:40 | <hololeap> | loonycyborg: more or less, yes |
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| 15:58:38 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I'm using it atm, even learned to use hackport a bit. |
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| 16:27:48 | <hololeap> | loonycyborg: if you have any questions, you can join #gentoo-haskell in libera |
| 16:29:20 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> ye the thing is I use matrix more now and there's no generic bridge atm afaik. |
| 16:29:36 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> like not every channel is bridged like this one |
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| 16:31:28 | <geekosaur> | on the one hand, other Haskell-related channels can be added to the bridge (chanops permitting). on the other, imo go where the action is |
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