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| 08:10:11 | <tjakway> | How do you guys write and organize your notes (on Haskell and everything else)? I use LibreOffice but I'm kind of fed up with its limitations and am thinking of fully moving to latex |
| 08:10:47 | <tjakway> | Right now I file everything in Google Drive but I'm very unhappy with its lack of Linux support and Latex could also lead to filing everything in git instead... has anyone else done this? |
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| 08:13:43 | <tomsmeding> | I use a notes.txt file in the relevant git repo for the project if applicable, otherwise markdown notes in a syncthing-synchronised folder (that I view with Obsidian, but I don't use any of the fancy functionality) |
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| 08:23:21 | <probie> | I use org-roam, but if you don't want to use emacs, I hear good things about Obsidian |
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| 08:27:20 | <dontdieych> | tjakway: just one big markdown file ( folding and toc view good for fast navigation) |
| 08:28:08 | <tjakway> | dontdieych: one BIG markdown file ;) I have a lot of notes... |
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| 08:28:16 | <tjakway> | I actually do that right now for bash |
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| 08:28:34 | <tjakway> | too many snippets to trust formatting to word |
| 08:29:26 | <tjakway> | and every time I open it I despair of how much time I've spent writing bash |
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| 08:32:57 | <defragger> | i am using vimwiki for years now |
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| 08:38:09 | <dontdieych> | tjakway: I'm mostly do not organize things. just save it in ~/Downloads (or wherever) or somewhere. `ls -rt1`, `fd ... | fzf` or `ctrl-f` in gui file manager is good enough for me. :D |
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| 08:41:49 | <dontdieych> | 'Dolphin on ~/Downloads' is basically big wiki index to me |
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| 08:51:32 | <jreicher> | tjakway: what typically leads you to retrieve your notes? (Not write them.) I find the organisational principle is given by the retrieval cases, not by the recording cases. |
| 08:53:00 | <tjakway> | jreicher: it depends, because I have a lot of different kinds of notes: some are directly about projects, others are more knowledge but relevant to projects |
| 08:53:37 | <tjakway> | for example, I was taking notes today on designing C++ iterators (which is WAY more complicated than I thought) |
| 08:54:11 | <tjakway> | that goes in the "C++ Notes" file but I'm going to link it to my C++ project-specific notes where relevant |
| 08:54:13 | <jreicher> | Personally I would keep notes about a project IN the project. |
| 08:54:36 | <tjakway> | jreicher: I was thinking about that too, and LaTeX makes that much easier |
| 08:54:42 | <tjakway> | or markdown or what have you |
| 08:55:19 | <jreicher> | I find knowledge notes more difficult, because sometimes you've forgotten what you might want to look up. |
| 08:55:31 | <jreicher> | So that one is more about indexing I think. |
| 08:55:50 | <jreicher> | Some kind of list you can browse, and then jump to the detail. |
| 08:56:08 | <tjakway> | Yes, and I'm very forgetful, so I'll admit I don't like the idea of my notes being scattered about so many different git repos |
| 08:56:17 | <tjakway> | maybe I could come up with a good submodule solution |
| 08:57:19 | <tjakway> | I actually used the fossil SCM as a personal ticketing system and it worked very well |
| 08:57:47 | <tjakway> | so I could make tickets for myself on things to do and link notes to them |
| 08:58:42 | <tjakway> | It had a very easy wiki syntax and D. Richard Hipp writes very good software |
| 08:59:21 | <tjakway> | I did think it was kind of amusing that I never actually used it as an SCM, just for its issue tracker |
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| 09:02:31 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> submodules? |
| 09:02:33 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> please |
| 09:02:40 | <jreicher> | Task lists and knowledge notes are a bit different though. I know org uses use it for both though. (I'm not an org user) |
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| 09:03:29 | <tjakway> | of course, I was just happy that I found something that worked well with my jury-rigged note system |
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| 09:03:39 | <tjakway> | for when I wanted task lists |
| 09:03:54 | <tjakway> | my firefox bookmarks are similarly a disaster |
| 09:04:07 | <tjakway> | of 8+ nested depths of folders on subjects |
| 09:04:40 | <tjakway> | I back it up daily because I'm aware I'm taking the system well past its reasonable breaking point |
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| 09:05:54 | <tjakway> | haskellbridge: I've always felt submodules were the afterthought of the git SCM system, the rest of it is pretty well put together and submodules... are not |
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| 09:11:37 | <haskellbridge> | <maerwald> why are you talking to haskellbrdige? xD |
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| 09:14:12 | <jreicher> | tjakway: you know there's quite a lot online about this kind of thing? If you search for "plaintext something-or-other" it turns up a fair bit. A lot of it references GTD and tools for it. |
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| 09:26:46 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> tjakway I used to use a lot of org outlines, now it's almost always markdown and obsidian |
| 09:28:51 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> where you keep your notes files matters a lot for organisation, accessibility, access control etc. |
| 09:30:19 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> core notes that aren't in public project repos are under ~/.notes and I sync some of those to mobile with obsidian sync |
| 09:30:31 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> * ~/notes |
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| 09:35:14 | <tjakway> | jreicher: OK, I will do that |
| 09:36:24 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> tjakway I used to use a lot of org outlines, now it's almost always markdown and obsidian (or when more convenient, the markdown modes in emacs in vs code) |
| 09:36:28 | <tjakway> | haskellbridge: that's something I've definitely realized in the past year |
| 09:37:04 | <tjakway> | word documents are already a nightmare to index and it's worse if there isn't a great system for them... |
| 09:37:17 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I'm sm, the bridge is just carrying my words from the Other Side :) |
| 09:37:41 | <tjakway> | anyway, I've got to go, but thank you all so much! |
| 09:38:07 | <tjakway> | this was definitely better than trying to learn it all the hard way |
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