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| 15:01:53 | <bwe> | How to use type classes when the variance is a sum type? https://paste.tomsmeding.com/U0JGfS1e |
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| 15:09:46 | <bwe> | I mean, I could create distinct data constructors like `data SiteADto = SiteADto SiteDto` and the type instances would be straightforward like `instance ToSiteContent SiteADto` and functions like `detFieldA :: proxy SiteADto -> Text`. But how can I get rid of the additional layer introduced by `SiteADto`? |
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| 15:16:43 | <bwe> | updated: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ahtW4uic |
| 15:20:02 | <Leary> | bwe: Why are you trying to use a typeclass for this in the first place? Just `case` on the `SiteName`. |
| 15:23:49 | <bwe> | Leary: Well, I have a bunch of functions with same name for different SiteName. How would I do it in a straightforward way with case? Also for code organisation, I can put SiteA in a single file. |
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| 15:32:50 | <Leary> | By making them different branches of the same function. |
| 15:37:29 | <kuribas> | bwe: why does it take a proxy? |
| 15:37:44 | <kuribas> | detFieldA (SiteADto dto) <= not a proxy. |
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| 15:38:51 | <bwe> | Leary: I feel it might even organise the code better, but still, having each variant completely defined under a type instance has some appeal. |
| 15:39:11 | <bwe> | kuribas: I corrected it in the updated paste: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/ahtW4uic |
| 15:39:11 | <kuribas> | bwe: don't you want lenses, instead of type classes? |
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| 15:40:02 | <kuribas> | I would avoid typeclasses, and just pattern match on the cases. |
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| 15:40:26 | <kuribas> | Just rename your functions, instead of having the same name. |
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| 15:41:01 | <bwe> | kuribas: lenses to avoid the case, I get that now. |
| 15:42:39 | <bwe> | kuribas: So, in the end, you advise me to branch within the function between the different implementations, correct? Of course, the implementations could live in their own functions that are defined elsewhere. |
| 15:43:27 | <kuribas> | lenses to extract data. |
| 15:43:38 | <kuribas> | Pattern matching if you have a closed set of alternatives. |
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| 15:44:59 | <kuribas> | Otherwise a typeclass HasFoo a => a -> Foo, where Foo is the data you want to extract (can be a sumtype). |
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| 15:48:38 | <bwe> | kuribas: But in my case I've got a standardised `a`, namely `SiteDto`, over all alternatives (and the variants are differentiated inside the `SiteDto`). I am not sure whether I understand your take on typeclass. It sounds that it's working differently than my attempt, is it? |
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| 15:49:29 | <kuribas> | I honestly have no idea what you are trying to do... |
| 15:50:03 | <kuribas> | If you only have SiteDto, why do you need typeclasses? |
| 15:51:09 | <bwe> | Basically, I have a set of functions for each SiteName that take `SiteDto` in and switch between different implementations of the functions depending on `SiteName`. |
| 15:52:18 | <bwe> | kuribas: As mentioned above, I'd have this way all implementations for one variant in one place / file / module. |
| 15:52:55 | <kuribas> | So siteFoo siteStuff = case siteName siteStuff of "site1" -> foo1 siteStuff; "site2" -> foo2 siteStuff; ... |
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| 15:54:36 | <kuribas> | or build "siteConfig :: HashMap Text SiteImpl", and pass that around? |
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| 15:56:00 | <bwe> | kuribas: I think I need to turn to the pattern matching / case variant. And from that experience I can move on. |
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| 15:56:47 | <bwe> | Well, ten functions means ten times pattern matching on SiteName, right? Any idea how to simplify this? |
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| 15:57:07 | <kuribas> | It's simple enough, no? |
| 15:57:24 | <kuribas> | I don't think going typelevel strings is simpler. |
| 15:57:31 | <bwe> | Me neither :). |
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| 15:59:15 | <bwe> | That's actually one advantage of type class version: I don't have to pattern match for each function anew. Well, actually I also do this in the type signatures using `proxy SiteDtoA`. |
| 15:59:43 | <bwe> | So, thanks for your inputs and encouragement to keep things simple Leary and kuribas. |
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| 16:00:35 | <kuribas> | bwe: you still need to pattern match, you just use a complex mechanism (type instance inference) for it. |
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| 16:07:36 | <bwe> | kuribas: That's so true. Are LambdaCase and ViewPattern (and how lenses) here of any help to pattern match on a record that carries `SiteName`? |
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| 16:09:39 | <kuribas> | Maybe. |
| 16:10:08 | <kuribas> | I would keep "case siteName siteStuff of "site1" -> foo1 siteStuff; "site2" -> foo2 siteStuff; ..." |
| 16:11:50 | <kuribas> | Or siteNameDispatch :: Text -> SiteFoo; siteGetFoo :: SiteDta -> SiteFoo; siteGetFoo siteDta = siteNameDispatch $ siteName siteDta |
| 16:12:33 | <Leary> | bwe: You can re-order the pattern matching and function selection by collecting the site-specific functions into a record: https://play.haskell.org/saved/6BAZ0p1J |
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| 16:21:54 | <bwe> | Leary: That's actually a nice approach, to consider, too. |
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| 16:22:51 | <bwe> | Instead of rolling the type instance, I am rolling a record that holds the functions. Yet still the switching is done by simple case. |
| 16:23:10 | <bwe> | Leary: Thanks for coming up with that refreshing approach. |
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