Logs on 2025-10-26 (liberachat/#haskell)
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| 16:29:06 | <[exa]> | are there any obvious gotchas before deploying wasm stuff to internets? |
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| 16:31:52 | <Diddy> | other then massive payload size and poor browser support, none come to mind |
| 16:35:58 | <int-e> | poor? https://caniuse.com/wasm |
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| 16:36:41 | <monochrom> | The impossible has happened! https://discourse.haskell.org/t/ghc-now-runs-in-your-browser/13169 |
| 16:37:29 | <monochrom> | "Help! I'm trapped in the Browser Monad!" :) |
| 16:38:29 | <int-e> | I also have a .wasm here that is smaller than the corresponding source code (no, not in Haskell) |
| 16:38:39 | <geekosaur> | someone did that with ghcjs some years back, iirc |
| 16:39:06 | <geekosaur> | a wasm version's a little more likely to be actually useful |
| 16:39:28 | <int-e> | (and I may have optimized it by hand to get there :P it's really just a tiny bit of number crunching code.) |
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| 16:47:33 | <[exa]> | ok well |
| 16:47:40 | <[exa]> | let's make it public then :D |
| 16:48:00 | <[exa]> | the scary size of the .wasm packs is not great but I assume that is the outcome of having to support the whole ghc runtime? |
| 16:49:28 | <monochrom> | You can't beat GHC itself on being large. >:) |
| 16:52:37 | <[exa]> | yeah |
| 16:53:16 | <[exa]> | well anyway if this helps anyone: https://github.com/exaexa/minihm |
| 16:53:27 | <[exa]> | I mean |
| 16:53:34 | <[exa]> | the actual app: https://exaexa.github.io/minihm/ |
| 16:55:12 | <[exa]> | I'm kinda wondering why there's no wasm-ish react clone for haskell yet, it looks insanely powerful despite not having direct DOM access |
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| 16:59:55 | [exa] | looks at the november side project counter |
| 17:00:09 | [exa] | gives it a hearty increase |
| 17:00:10 | <[exa]> | let's see |
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| 17:05:07 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> isn't miso in this space ? |
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| 17:07:01 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> some kind of react clone anyway, not sure about wasm. They are very busy building some kind of superweapon over there |
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| 17:27:58 | <[exa]> | miso was FRP right? I was looking at some of these but seemed like a too big of a gun |
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| 17:37:09 | <monochrom> | [exa]: ONOES your web app automates my type inference homework! |
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| 17:38:33 | <monochrom> | "Is there any gotchas before deploying wasm apps" No. "Is there any gotchas before deploying HM apps?" Yes you break 50 PL courses around the world. >:) |
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| 17:54:59 | <[exa]> | monochrom: ONOES that was not written in the manual |
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| 19:52:57 | <omentic> | heyo! anyone know what "in the stack configuration" means wrt. the context of building a project? |
| 19:53:37 | <int-e> | `stack` is a build tool |
| 19:53:56 | <omentic> | i have a project with a foo.cabal that previously depended on pandoc == 3.*. i would like to use pandoc 3.8+ for some updated syntax highlighting so i changed it to pandoc == 3.8.*, but stack is telling me that only pandoc-3.1.11.1 is "in the stack configuration" |
| 19:55:00 | <omentic> | only thing is, my stack.yaml doesn't rly specify any particular package versions, so i have no idea where or why it's finding this outdated pandoc... only thing there is a resolver: lts-22.30 line, a system-ghc: true, and a packages: - . |
| 19:55:28 | <monochrom> | If you have a foo.cabal, it's best to use cabal instead of stack. |
| 19:55:34 | <omentic> | i think i'm missing smth in my conceptual model of how stack works |
| 19:55:43 | <monochrom> | Or rather, s/have/use/ |
| 19:56:00 | <monochrom> | Alternatively, if you use a stack.yaml, then it's best to use stack instead of cabal. |
| 19:56:11 | <int-e> | by the looks of it, pandoc-3.8.* is so recent that only nightly stackage has it. (see https://www.stackage.org/ ) |
| 19:56:57 | <omentic> | monochrom: i've got both. i don't remember why i have both. it seems like versions are specified in cabal and i was just using stack to exec the outputted binary, possibly? |
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| 19:57:43 | <omentic> | int-e: oh, thx, that'd probably be it then |
| 19:58:16 | <monochrom> | hackage has 3.8.2.1 |
| 19:58:20 | <int-e> | (I'm not a `stack` user) |
| 19:58:51 | <omentic> | okay i see so the lts-22.30 resolver is where packages are coming from... |
| 19:59:21 | <int-e> | (But I regularly overflow stacks, so I'm a stack user.) |
| 19:59:26 | <monochrom> | Yeah stack default behaviour is you say which resolver and stack sticks to it. |
| 20:00:11 | <omentic> | what |
| 20:00:29 | <omentic> | (oops, sorry) what's stackage wrt. hackage? |
| 20:02:09 | <davean> | Its a specific set of packages from hackage. |
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| 20:05:06 | <davean> | omentic: it gives you 0 or 1 versions of the packages on hackage. |
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| 20:05:19 | <omentic> | i see it's meant to be stable but i'm not sure what that means. what makes something that is *not* based on stackage unstable? what's wrong with specifying specific versions of your dependencies? |
| 20:05:40 | <davean> | What it means is that if you don't set your version bounds you still get the sameish thing over time |
| 20:05:57 | <davean> | Ah, apparently specifying versions is REALLY REALLY hard and confusing. |
| 20:06:19 | <davean> | So you can ahve an entire system that means you don't have to because there aren't options :-p |
| 20:06:41 | <omentic> | hm, interesting... do you know why specifying versions is hard? |
| 20:06:57 | <davean> | I have no fucking clue man, I've never understood. People get really upset about it though |
| 20:07:01 | <monochrom> | s/stable/conservative/ would be more accurate IMO |
| 20:07:55 | <davean> | IMO it makes it much harder, because as soon as you need something else you've broken the entire model |
| 20:08:34 | <davean> | Well I guess i know one thing people find confusing about versions, and thats that they don't understand constraint solvers so they're mystified by the constraitn conflicts cabal spits out apparently? |
| 20:08:52 | <davean> | Though thats the same idea as a type system so I don't get why they're confused about that if they're using Haskell. |
| 20:09:03 | <int-e> | I think the intent is that if your software had a build plan and worked with LTS-20.1 then it will still compile and work with LTS-20.26, thanks to curation (with strong reliance on the package versioning policy) |
| 20:09:28 | <davean> | int-e: right but you get that with package versioning to start with |
| 20:10:27 | <omentic> | davean: hm, i was a little mystified honestly. i saw one bound i had specified (pandoc >= 3.8) but stack inserted another bound (pandoc < 3.9) and didn't tell me where it came from, and also did not consider versions i thought it should consider and didn't tell me why |
| 20:10:52 | <omentic> | turns out that < 3.9 bound is just because pandoc >= 3.9 does not exist lmfao |
| 20:11:18 | <omentic> | and turns out the didn't-consider-versions issue was my resolver. but i wish it told me these things. |
| 20:12:05 | <int-e> | omentic: hmm, are you sure it's not just restricting it to a single major release? It's effectively 3.8.* |
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| 20:12:36 | <omentic> | int-e: oh, you're absolutely right, my bad |
| 20:13:13 | <omentic> | yeah i got that output mixed up with when i was trying to use >= instead of * debugging the resolver issue |
| 20:13:24 | <omentic> | stack slander revoked |
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| 20:18:42 | <omentic> | how long does it usually take for a hackage package to get in a stackage LTS? |
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| 20:21:07 | <davean> | omentic: its not even a time thing |
| 20:21:22 | <davean> | If it had more than one option I think it might lend its self more to a time thing |
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| 22:07:26 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> omentic a quick read of the stack docs would make things a lot clearer ? |
| 22:07:31 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> (hopefully..) |
| 22:08:21 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> https://stackage.org is the essential page, here you can see what snapshots exist and what package versions are in each |
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| 22:11:42 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> stackage is "stable hackage". If you're familiar with Debian, stackage is to hackage as debian is to github, roughly. It provides a set of snapshots of known-compatible packages from the continually-updated hackage. |
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| 22:16:10 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> a new release on hackage appears automatically in the next stackage nightly (if it is configured there and builds there). A new lts is cut from the current nightly every so often (depends eg on ghc releases). Also lts snapshots get updated. |
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| 22:27:59 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> If you wonder why known-compatible snapshots are needed, given that all hackage packages specify compatibility bounds: a package's bounds aren't always correct or accurate; they can change at any time; and cabal's dynamic solving of them can, too. A snapshot provides more reproducibility. It's also a natural place to do extra quality control, or to start other packaging efforts. |
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| 22:30:28 | <c_wraith> | Stack has mostly stopped telling its users to make hackage worse for everybody, so I don't dislike it as much as I used to. But it still doesn't fix any problem I actually have. |
| 22:31:23 | <sm> | stack never did that |
| 22:32:14 | <c_wraith> | yes, it did. There was a specific recommendation to not put upper bounds on package dependencies |
| 22:32:20 | <c_wraith> | Which broke a lot of things |
| 22:32:24 | <sm> | do show us, please :) |
| 22:32:42 | <c_wraith> | I lived through it. As a victim. |
| 22:32:45 | <sm> | ah I take it back, it's not that important. |
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| 22:34:27 | <geekosaur> | it broke a lot of people back when that was the recommendation |
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| 22:41:04 | <davean> | Yah, https://www.snoyman.com/blog/2017/01/stackage-design-choices/ has some oblique references to the policy |
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| 22:42:48 | <davean> | snoyman was pretty agresive on it. |
| 22:43:00 | <davean> | Not as agressive as https://web.archive.org/web/20191122170832/https://twitter.com/haskdev/status/820932892385808384 mind you |
| 22:44:11 | <davean> | Sadly, a LOT of it was on twitter, or in private email, and twitter is very hard to cite these days. |
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| 22:50:43 | <EvanR> | I wonder if there's a utility to archive (locally) all of your twitter account... |
| 22:50:50 | <EvanR> | and convert it into another form |
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