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Logs on 2025-11-10 (liberachat/#haskell)

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02:42:16 <jreicher> Another way of looking at two's complement that I quite like is that it's an offset number line with the top bit missing. So say you have an 8 bit representation. Imagine your number line in 9 bits with 0 being represented as 1 0000 0000 and arithmetic working as usual. Strip the top bit and you get two's complement.
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12:52:37 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Found a silly bug in neovim+hls: when using LSP to rename the constructor of a record, it also renames all fields. So like "data Foo = Foo { a :: Int, b :: Int }" becomes "data Foo = Bar { Bar :: Int, Bar :: Int }"
12:53:18 <haskellbridge> <Morj> For how basic it is, I'm sure this is already known, so I'm more surprised I've only just encountered it
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14:08:28 <lucabtz> hello im new in here (and quite new to haskell too)
14:08:33 <lucabtz> i love haskell though
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14:14:19 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Welcome lucabtz , are you working on a project or just playing around? I like to do both
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14:14:48 <lucabtz> im kinda looking for a project to work on
14:14:55 <lucabtz> i dont have a lot a free time though
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14:29:48 <tomsmeding> Morj: renaming identifiers is not particularly well supported in HLS overall, I don't think it supports renaming across modules, for example
14:30:07 <tomsmeding> so I suspect people just don't use it much
14:30:21 <tomsmeding> because within a single file, doing the rename functionality is not _that_ much less effort than just a search-replace
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16:45:31 <haskellbridge> <Morj> tomsmeding: I thought it supported cross-module renames when the import lists are present? Why would I need an in-module rename when I have :s
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17:35:52 <tomsmeding> Morj: "rename: Internal Error: Renaming of an exported name is unsupported"
17:36:06 <tomsmeding> or is that my client lol
17:36:39 <geekosaur> tbh I think that's a sane constraint: what else that HLS can't know about might be using it?
17:37:01 <tomsmeding> well HLS knows about this component, at the very least, and one might expect it to rename inside that
17:37:17 <tomsmeding> I haven't used that kind of IDE for a language like Java, but I think there this behaviour is considered standard
17:37:50 <tomsmeding> yeah checked the HLS source and this is explicitly unsupported
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17:38:42 <tomsmeding> Morj: a within-module rename can still be more powerful than :s if the name is a normal english word that also appears in comments
17:40:26 <haskellbridge> <Morj> You're right, I get the same error. Am I getting mandela syndrome right now. I was very sure there was some limitation on modules without export lists
17:40:50 <tomsmeding> yes, a module without an export list exports everything so HLS categorically rejects renaming anything in such a module
17:40:59 <geekosaur> keep in mind that that might have been true for older HLS versions; it is under active development
17:41:35 <geekosaur> it's also possible that multi-component rename is on a WIP branch somewhere, since multi-component support is still fairly new
17:41:39 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Ohh right. Without an export list I can't even rename local bindings like function arguments
17:41:46 <haskellbridge> <Morj> That's a silly restriction
17:41:59 <tomsmeding> https://github.com/haskell/haskell-language-server/blob/39519d60f868b618ca5c2f07c97a60ddd0e6c2af/plugins/hls-rename-plugin/src/Ide/Plugin/Rename.hs#L123-L140
17:42:21 <tomsmeding> tbh V}:s
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17:42:40 <tomsmeding> (if we're in vim lingo anyway)
17:43:47 <haskellbridge> <Morj> I have empty lines in my functions ;-) But true
17:43:57 <tomsmeding> V}}}:s
17:44:19 <haskellbridge> <Morj> V/^\k<CR>:s
17:44:24 <tomsmeding> but yeah it sounds like it should be perfectly fine to support that
17:44:46 <tomsmeding> \k?
17:45:15 <haskellbridge> <Morj> :help /\k - a keyword character
17:45:26 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Like a smarter \w
17:45:29 <tomsmeding> right I found that
17:45:50 <tomsmeding> oh it matches essentially everything
17:46:07 <tomsmeding> at least in haskell for me
17:46:17 <tomsmeding> seems identical to \w
17:46:46 <haskellbridge> <Morj> It doesn't match operator symbols, but it matches "'"
17:47:05 <haskellbridge> <Morj> Which an identifier can't start with so \w would still work... Whatever
17:47:36 <tomsmeding> oh I see
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