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| 01:15:36 | <yin> | what's the strongest reason to avoid ApplicativeDo? |
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| 01:45:56 | <haskellbridge> | <slack1256> yin: using (*>) instead (>>) for sequencing. There is a discourse thread where they tried really hard to recover the performance of the second on the first but it is a mess. |
| 01:46:42 | <haskellbridge> | <Zemyla> Which monads don't define (*>) = (>>) or vice versa? |
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| 02:00:47 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> > PS. I recently became aware of a Rust package called hs-bindgen, for Rust-Haskell interop. We haven’t yet decided what to rename our tool too, but we likely will. |
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| 02:05:11 | <haskellbridge> | <slack1256> Zemyla: I do not know. But the default definition on applicative gives you the wrong definition in terms of (<*>). So any monad that implements Applicative by hand and does not override the method will be affected. |
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| 20:03:10 | <c_wraith> | "wrong"? |
| 20:03:41 | <c_wraith> | oh, I'm a day late to ask that. Mid-november brain |
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| 20:04:51 | <monochrom> | They only meant inefficient. |
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