Logs on 2025-11-27 (liberachat/#haskell)
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| 00:17:26 | <int-e> | geekosaur: the stores have an associated package db? |
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| 00:19:47 | <int-e> | geekosaur: Oh, found it, <store>/package.db/ ...easy to miss between the packages themselves |
| 00:20:08 | <int-e> | So thanks for that hint, I just found a use for it. |
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| 00:27:04 | <geekosaur> | just look for something not suffixed by a hash 🙂 |
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| 09:34:14 | <[exa]> | is there some kind of generic `mapAccum` for traversables? |
| 09:34:29 | <[exa]> | like: ??? :: Traversable t => (a -> s -> (b,s)) -> s -> t a -> t b |
| 09:34:49 | <[exa]> | I could ofc do with State but I hoped for a nice shortcut or so |
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| 09:35:28 | <[exa]> | ok whoops |
| 09:35:40 | <[exa]> | mapAccumL :D |
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| 11:08:44 | <lucabtz> | what is the command to get the type of an expression? |
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| 11:09:03 | <ent-_> | :t <expression> |
| 11:09:04 | <lambdabot> | error: parse error on input ‘<’ |
| 11:09:11 | <lucabtz> | thanks |
| 11:09:30 | <lucabtz> | :t snd . mapAccumL |
| 11:09:31 | <lambdabot> | error: |
| 11:09:31 | <lambdabot> | • Couldn't match type ‘a -> t0 b -> (a, t0 c)’ with ‘(a0, c1)’ |
| 11:09:31 | <lambdabot> | Expected type: (a -> b -> (a, c)) -> (a0, c1) |
| 11:11:27 | <lucabtz> | right that wont work |
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| 11:54:10 | <dutchie> | is there a neater way to do `Applicative f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b` than `f <*> pure a` (f is already some `Ctor <$> fx <*> fy` thing) |
| 11:55:16 | <dutchie> | lens has `fab ?? a = fmap ($ a) fab` |
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| 12:10:36 | <Guest77> | Hello :) |
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| 12:26:21 | <dminuoso> | dutchie: Then `pure a` is the cleanest way. |
| 12:27:07 | <dminuoso> | It seems like an unnecessary way to be cleaver to introduce ??, which nobody could read instantly. `Foo <$> bar <*> quux <*> pure a` otoh is a common pattern |
| 12:27:13 | <dminuoso> | s/cleaver/clever/ |
| 12:27:59 | <dutchie> | i guess another ugly way would be abuse flip to get the pure thing to be the first argument |
| 12:28:08 | <dminuoso> | I mean you could do `<$> ($ a)` I suppose? But `<*> pure a` reads just more naturally and fits the flow... |
| 12:28:25 | <lucabtz> | pure a seems very clear to me |
| 12:30:32 | <__monty__> | * `($ a) <$>` |
| 12:31:29 | <dminuoso> | dutchie: And yes, I have reordered arguments for exactly that reason before - but I feel like this is bike shedding over something truly irreleveant. |
| 12:31:41 | <dutchie> | indeed |
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| 12:45:04 | <jackdk> | There's also `<&> ($ a)` using `(<&>)` from `Data.Functor` |
| 12:45:21 | <jackdk> | But I'd also go the `<*> pure a` route here. |
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| 14:01:06 | <Athas> | Hello Haskell friends! I have a problem with my package on Hackage. While it shows documentation for every module, the Index only covers the test suite, which is not going to be useful to anyone. |
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| 14:03:34 | <ames> | is it possible to report errors with accurate source positions from a quasiquoter (i.e. so that ghc points *within* the input), or, more generically, change the source span that qReport attaches to the diagnostic? |
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| 19:08:41 | <Hecate> | mauke: lol your comment made learn about a truly cursed Windows thing https://github.com/actions/runner/issues/3792#issuecomment-3586956300 |
| 19:08:53 | <Hecate> | mniip: ☝ |
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| 19:24:03 | <mauke> | Hecate: you're welcome (?) :-) |
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| 19:26:09 | <Hecate> | mauke: :D |
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| 19:27:30 | <mauke> | writing batch files for win xp/7, good times |
| 19:27:45 | <monochrom> | Hahaha that's a very creative trick. |
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| 19:46:46 | <tomsmeding> | Hecate: that issue is insanity |
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| 19:57:13 | <haskellbridge> | <Luca> Is there a IRC client that can be extended using Haskell? |
| 19:57:52 | <monochrom> | Perhaps glirc is extensible. |
| 20:00:11 | <haskellbridge> | <Luca> I saw that but I don't understand if it's extensible in Haskell. It looks like it uses lua |
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| 21:02:48 | <EvanR> | it's an open source haskell program you can edit and recompile |
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| 21:12:18 | <glguy> | glirc is written in Haskell; you can write whatever Haskell you like |
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| 21:28:57 | <int-e> | I wish ghc-pkg knew about GHC's environment files |
| 21:34:19 | <haskellbridge> | <Luca> Okay but I meant something I wouldn't need to fork and maintain a fork of |
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| 21:34:42 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> does it if you run it like "stack|cabal exec -- ghc-pkg ..." ? |
| 21:37:29 | <int-e> | It understands GHC_PACKAGE_PATH, so maybe |
| 21:38:08 | <int-e> | But it won't understand which packages are exposed or hidden by an environment file. |
| 21:38:21 | <int-e> | Which is the information I'm looking for |
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| 21:38:42 | <haskellbridge> | <Luca> Wait you are the guy from glirc glguy |
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| 21:49:06 | <monochrom> | Yes :) |
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| 21:54:20 | <glguy> | Luca, Haskell isn't really a good language for writing extensions, in general. glirc can load dynamic libraries and exposes a C API, so if you wanted you could write some Haskell that makes a library to load |
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| 21:55:23 | <glguy> | xmonad is a well-known tool that people configure in Haskell, but the way that's achieved is to have the program be a library. Every use of it is a program you write and compile that links in the library |
| 21:57:53 | <glguy> | Another option is to includera Haskell interpreter in your program. I made a game that used that approach |
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| 22:11:27 | <haskellbridge> | <Luca> I will look at it better tomorrow, but thank you for the tips |
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