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| 09:56:30 | <Guest70> | I am a beginner to programming and just finished LYAH .. I saw applications for gsoc 2026 being invited and i wanted to know how to go about sending a proposal, whom to send and if there is some one who can guide on the ideas.. |
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| 21:42:39 | <yin> | i've been having some trouble with lsp completions in neovim. some errors about newlines in completion items (maybe snippets? idk) are being thrown left and right |
| 21:42:42 | <yin> | this is recent behavious |
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| 21:43:50 | <yin> | (<> pure 'r') . init . last . words |
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| 22:01:17 | <tomsmeding> | yin: what lsp/completion plugins are you using? |
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| 22:01:49 | <tomsmeding> | yin: you could've skipped the ". last . words" |
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| 22:52:51 | <yin> | tomsmeding: yes i could've :) |
| 22:53:38 | <yin> | i was using blink.cmp |
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| 22:54:06 | <tomsmeding> | yin: me too, works fine for me |
| 22:55:53 | <yin> | i switched to nvim-cmp and it stopped. my blink config is very vanilla i think |
| 22:58:08 | <yin> | https://paste.jrvieira.com/1769900271615 |
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| 23:02:54 | <yin> | i'm trying to replicate it with no success |
| 23:03:36 | <yin> | this was the error: https://paste.jrvieira.com/1769900606689 |
| 23:05:04 | <tomsmeding> | yin: perhaps I don't run into this because I don't have snippets in the first place, so I never have completion items with newlines in them? |
| 23:05:21 | <tomsmeding> | is there a way to get plain HLS to give me a completion item with newlines? |
| 23:06:54 | <yin> | i think i was wrong in suspecting snippets because i still get errors with that source disabled |
| 23:07:23 | <yin> | tomsmeding: i don't know |
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| 23:36:21 | <EvanR> | we've all seen many weird representations of a running program, turing tapes, graph reductions, lambda terms, whatever... but what about one where you have symbols on a (single) stack. The top symbol is either output to be acknowledged and removed, or the top 1 or more symbols match a pattern in a transition table for what to replace them with |
| 23:36:43 | <EvanR> | is this still as general as turing tapes, lambda terms, ... |
| 23:36:58 | <humasect> | stacks, fortran / forth ? |
| 23:37:15 | <EvanR> | aiui forth has a program as well as a stack |
| 23:37:20 | <humasect> | got this attention. new kinds of computation ! |
| 23:37:23 | <EvanR> | and auxillary pages to work with |
| 23:37:32 | <humasect> | oh yeah |
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| 23:37:44 | <humasect> | mEmOrIeEs > |
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| 23:41:12 | <geekosaur> | forth has at least two stacks, actually |
| 23:41:21 | <geekosaur> | (I think later iterations added more) |
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| 23:43:28 | <EvanR> | single stack with a transition table seems like a context free language parser and so might not be as general as e.g. lambda calculus |
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| 23:48:29 | <humasect> | No One Knows |
| 23:52:05 | <monochrom> | EvanR: The standard implicit assumption is that the alphabet is finite. Then stack+transition = pushdown automata = CFL. But you can regain Turing completeness by an infinite alphabet, e.g., I may think of GHC RTS as a stack machine but I can push arbitrarily large expressions on the stack. |
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| 23:53:27 | <EvanR> | yeah that's cheating |
| 23:53:43 | <EvanR> | so my suspicions were founded |
| 23:53:45 | <humasect> | oh no wait |
| 23:54:10 | <humasect> | well aleph bet (22/26) just as that base-27 |
| 23:55:19 | <humasect> | infinite set... well |
| 23:55:44 | <EvanR> | GHC RTS has only 1 stack? |
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| 23:56:04 | <monochrom> | Yeah if we ignore FFI. |
| 23:56:17 | <monochrom> | Err, if we ignore FFI and multithreading! |
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| 23:56:27 | <monochrom> | (one stack per thread) |
| 23:57:16 | <humasect> | ignore politicks too while we at it |
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| 23:58:38 | <monochrom> | GHC RTS for one thread has 1 stack plus 1 heap. But they work together as this: the stack has pointers to heap objects. So it's like 1 stack but you push arbitrarily large expressions. |
| 23:59:23 | <monochrom> | STG is defined to have 2 stacks, but they can be merged, as GHC RTS shows. |
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