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| 02:19:13 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> Cook-style OOP mentioned |
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| 02:23:02 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> It's quite different to how OOP is used in a lot of mainstream langs. In those you can more or less equate classes with "modules with internal state", with instances of those classes being mostly copies of that data (+bookkeeping) |
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| 02:36:01 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> From this perspective, we can observe that PHP has features comparable to first class modules (anonymous classes), signatures (interfaces), a form of module composition (abstract classes), automatic file importing based on classes used, classes without associated state (traits), etc |
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| 02:38:02 | <haskellbridge> | <Bowuigi> The funny part is that PHP has another module system on top of the class-based one with bad interop between both |
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| 11:04:31 | <bwe> | Hi and good morning! What's the easiest way to watch a (dhall) file for changes from within a Haskell program (so I can reload its content into an IORef)? |
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| 11:07:19 | <tomsmeding> | bwe: likely https://hackage.haskell.org/package/fsnotify |
| 11:08:53 | <tomsmeding> | you'll need to watch the directory that contains the file; this sounds weird, but makes sense if you realise that editors typically _replace_ the file on writing rather than updating its contents |
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| 13:07:26 | <tomsmeding> | I just added 101.47.52.0/22 to the blocklist for ircbrowse to lower the amount of spam that the server has to handle (seems to be an AI company). If you're adversely impacted, let me know. |
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| 13:17:51 | <int-e> | BytePlus, "AI-Native Cloud", they have all of 101.47.0.0/16, and I think they're a division of ByteDance? So likely no victims there :-P |
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| 13:40:50 | <gentauro> | anybody know why OP (https://www.iankduncan.com/engineering/2026-02-09-what-functional-programmers-get-wrong-about-systems/) doesn't define their domain like: |
| 13:41:03 | <gentauro> | λ> data Product = V1 Int | Other (List Word8) -- Do something with not recognized bytes |
| 13:41:09 | <gentauro> | λ> data Product = V1 Int | V2 Float | Other (List Word8) -- Do something with not recognized bytes |
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| 13:41:20 | <gentauro> | Like upfront handling the "newer" case? |
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| 14:14:10 | <tomsmeding> | int-e: thank you! Where did you get that netblock info from? |
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| 14:15:00 | <int-e> | tomsmeding: whois in adjacent addresses because I've seen this kind of splitting before |
| 14:16:48 | <int-e> | (so it's very possible that they have more blocks) |
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| 19:26:45 | <EvanR> | gentauro, I tried to read the referenced blog post but according to control P it's 55 pages long |
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| 19:34:00 | <int-e> | wow, that's a lot of empty pages |
| 19:35:52 | <int-e> | (It's long, but I'd put it at about 5 pages after scrolling to the end. Didn't read.) |
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| 19:44:45 | <EvanR> | I also got empty pages! |
| 19:44:48 | <EvanR> | smh |
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| 20:10:23 | <monochrom> | The emperor's new book. >:) |
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| 21:01:22 | <gentauro> | EvanR: wth :o |
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| 21:02:52 | <gentauro> | EvanR: I guess that blog post is a monolith xD |
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| 21:06:50 | gentauro | I just tried CTRL+P in FF -> 57 empty pages. Perhaps som DRM stuff going on? |
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| 21:16:44 | <EvanR> | I got the first page but I figured the rest is just bad web tech |
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| 21:25:52 | <chromoblob> | "i figured REST is just bad web tech" heheh |
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