Logs on 2026-02-22 (liberachat/#haskell)
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| 00:27:56 | <c_wraith> | looks like Hackage is having some availability issues |
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| 00:52:14 | <geekosaur> | still |
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| 00:52:32 | <geekosaur> | I reported them when they started, it's been a week, never heard back and it's still flaky |
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| 00:56:55 | <geekosaur> | auto-status claims all systems operational but shows definite problems within the past 8 days |
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| 01:46:35 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> https://haskell-status.org/ |
| 01:48:40 | <EvanR> | the system is down --homestar runner |
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| 08:44:14 | <hololeap> | StrongBad |
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| 12:59:37 | <lunipaw> | I'm having some issues with haskell lsp and wanted to ask if these are issues with the server or something being wrong on my end, currently the language server autocomplete doesn't recognize packages I imported in my stack project, same if I cabal install the libraries locally. It does for some reason autocomplete functions from the mtl library |
| 13:00:10 | <lunipaw> | I assume this might be due to some breakage I experienced with the ghc provided in the arch repo before I swapped to managing those installs with ghcup |
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| 13:02:32 | <Leary> | How do I tell cabal to use the deps available via ghc-pkg---do I have no better choice than the v1 commands? The deps are already provided by nix, but cabal wants to rebuild them all anyway... |
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| 13:22:33 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> How are you getting the nix deps? |
| 13:22:50 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> I never had this issue with shellFor |
| 13:24:05 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> What does happen frequently is forgetting to reload the nix shell after editing .cabal and then the output of callCabal2nix is stale so cabal tool tries to get the new deps |
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| 13:25:42 | <Leary> | I'm using `devShell = hpkg.shellFor { packages = p: [ p.thepackage ]; };`, freshly loaded. |
| 13:26:13 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Which you can avoid by stating in cabal.project that cabal should not fetch from anywhere |
| 13:26:19 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> `active-repositories: :none` |
| 13:27:02 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Leary: hpkg being some haskellPackages or similar? |
| 13:27:17 | <Leary> | Yeah. |
| 13:27:34 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Where is cabal coming from? |
| 13:28:12 | <Leary> | Oh, it's not provided by the shell, perhaps that's the issue? |
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| 13:29:59 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Could be, try adding it there |
| 13:30:04 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> e.g. https://github.com/alexfmpe/obenstein/blob/main/project.nix#L64 |
| 13:32:15 | <Leary> | No dice. |
| 13:32:41 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Odd |
| 13:33:49 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Add this |
| 13:34:14 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Might narrow down what the problem is |
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| 13:35:04 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Btw, are you using direnv? |
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| 13:35:35 | <Leary> | Add what? And no. |
| 13:35:57 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> ^ |
| 13:36:55 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Ok so it's not direnv going stale either |
| 13:37:08 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Huh are you trying to do cross compilation or so? |
| 13:37:24 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> shellFor doesn't work with it properly, I don't know why |
| 13:37:43 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> e.g. js/wasm backends |
| 13:37:52 | <Leary> | Nope, just a bog-standard build of an ordinary haskell package. |
| 13:38:44 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> No static vs non static shenanigans? |
| 13:38:52 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> If you haven't, make sure said deps actually are in ghc-pkg |
| 13:39:00 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> `ghc-pkg list` |
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| 13:44:51 | <Leary> | Shouldn't be. And yeah, they're there. |
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| 13:53:20 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> It *should* work |
| 13:53:32 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> nuke dist-newstyle just in case |
| 13:54:01 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> or do cabal clean |
| 13:54:31 | <Leary> | I already tried that; no difference. |
| 13:54:36 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> What happens when you add this? |
| 13:55:45 | <Leary> | I still don't know what you mean by "add this"---I suspect something isn't crossing the bridge. |
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| 13:58:12 | <Leary> | This is what I see IRC-side: https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lchaskell?events_page=17599 |
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| 14:02:49 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> 8 minutes ago alexfmpe referenced their earlier post: "active-repositories: :none" |
| 14:02:52 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> a |
| 14:03:46 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> and the message only reading "^" referenced "Which you can avoid by stating in cabal.project that cabal should not fetch from anywhere" |
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| 14:12:46 | <Leary> | Thanks. An earlier attempt to test that was silently thwarted by another `active-repositories` stanza hiding in a freeze file, but with that gone it does actually fix the issue. It's still weird though---should that really be necessary? |
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| 14:35:45 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> It should only matter when your nix shell is stale |
| 14:36:15 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> And re-entering should fix |
| 14:36:23 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> I never used freeze files though |
| 14:36:55 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> Maybe cabal gives it precedence over ghc-pkg? |
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| 14:48:23 | <Leary> | The freeze file was just an attempt to force cabal to use the available deps; it's gone now. Even in a fresh shell I still need that line in my `cabal.project`. |
| 14:48:51 | <Leary> | But I'll leave it at that for tonight---thanks for helping me with this, alexfmpe. |
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| 14:51:24 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> That line should only help, but it's very odd you need it on a fresh shell Could be some dumb config caching somewhere. If you ever feel like tracking it down, maybe try a fresh git checkout and/or ask around in #haskell:nixos.org (https://matrix.to/#/#haskell:nixos.org) |
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| 15:06:43 | <juri_> | I am today's victim of an infinite loop. i've tried profiling (one control-c never terminates), I've tried -xc (great, i get a stack dump from main. and a program.. still hanging).. |
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| 16:15:26 | <geekosaur> | if a single ctrl-c doesn't terminate, it's likely stuck in a loop that does no allocation. try `-fno-omit-yields` to make it behave a little better including hopefully giving you more information |
| 16:15:43 | <geekosaur> | (that's a compile flag, not RTS) |
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| 16:32:13 | <juri_> | thank you. :) |
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| 17:14:01 | <juri_> | geekosaur: that did the trick. |
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| 20:14:34 | <gentauro> | juri_: how did you kill it? I normally opt for `htop` + F4 and just filter for the name of the app and then F9 + SIGKILL |
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| 20:17:30 | <geekosaur> | double ctrl-c should work |
| 20:17:36 | <newmind> | ctrl-z (suspends it) and kill %% (or kill -9 %%, if feeling unfriendly) often works too and keeps you from having to look up the pid |
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| 20:18:59 | <geekosaur> | also an underused one: ctrl-\ |
| 20:19:49 | <newmind> | so underused that i seemingly don't even know it oO |
| 20:21:13 | <gentauro> | geekosaur: gonna try that next time |
| 20:21:49 | <gentauro> | and yeah ctrl+\ never heard of that :o |
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| 20:30:52 | <EvanR> | ctrl \ gives me Quit (core dumped) -- (where?) |
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| 20:39:05 | <mauke> | cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern |
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| 20:43:45 | <c_wraith> | don't most systems ship with a ulimit of 0 bytes on core files these days? |
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| 20:59:28 | <geekosaur> | yes, but if you enable it some systems will still eat it (ubuntu for example sends it to a core daemon and you need to disable that for userspace core dumps) |
| 20:59:45 | <geekosaur> | ulimit -c unlimited |
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