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| 13:21:37 | <Milan_Vanca> | Hello guyz, would you use regex for validating that string has only allowed chars and is of max specified length? |
| 13:24:47 | <Milan_Vanca> | I heard about some parser combinators which are probably better than group captures in regexes. |
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| 13:40:00 | <Milan_Vanca> | Interesting, hackage has some problems. |
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| 13:46:38 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Milan_Vanca: cross post from the matrix side |
| 13:46:40 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> > hackage has been experienced technical difficulties, lots of slow-to-load issues, some 503s. It doesn't like the new server very much yet |
| 13:48:06 | <int-e> | Hmm, I browsed a bit and it feels fine? |
| 13:48:22 | <Milan_Vanca> | So no DDOS attack right? |
| 13:48:50 | <Milan_Vanca> | int-e: It is occasional |
| 13:49:06 | <Milan_Vanca> | Maybe memory problems or something. |
| 13:49:17 | <int-e> | Oh stuff is served from https://hackage-content.haskell.org/ that's new. |
| 13:50:00 | <int-e> | Who knows. It could always be the CDN misbehaving in some areas. |
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| 13:50:37 | <Milan_Vanca> | Yeah... |
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| 14:42:47 | <Rembane> | Milan_Vanca: I'd go for parser combinators, but I'm very fond of them. |
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| 14:52:51 | <Milan_Vanca> | Rembane: Even when you need true false if something matches? Real example here https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/api/resources/approle?view=graph-rest-1.0 in table property "value" |
| 14:53:40 | <Milan_Vanca> | I thought about newtype with "smart constructor" and regex validation. |
| 14:54:29 | <Rembane> | Milan_Vanca: Yeah, but that's because I like them and because the Haskell ecosystem likes them. It could also be that I'm incredibly bad at finding regex libraries for Haskell. |
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| 14:56:20 | <Milan_Vanca> | Rembane: Makes sense.. I too find it hard to find regex libs. |
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| 15:10:22 | <__monty__> | merijn: Can you expand on why Safe Haskell is hard to use correctly? |
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| 16:59:34 | <tomsmeding> | Rembane: I've never used regexen in haskell yet, but this seems to list a few? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/regex-base |
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| 17:00:36 | <Rembane> | tomsmeding: Sweet! I might have selective parsing vision. |
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| 17:05:02 | <monochrom> | Haha pun. (CFG parsing can be done within Selective.) >:) |
| 17:06:38 | <monochrom> | Selective+Alternative if general CFG. But if LL(k), easily determinizable to Selective. |
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| 17:31:28 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> I am using RebindableSyntax, OverloadedLists and custom enumFrom (that does not use Enum class). The type checker stil infers that [0..] must be Enum. What is the reason for this behavior? |
| 17:33:22 | <tomsmeding> | the documentation (https://downloads.haskell.org/ghc/latest/docs/users_guide/exts/overloaded_lists.html#rebindable-syntax), literally read, says that that combination of extensions makes the {to,from}List functions overloadable, but not the Enum functions |
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| 17:35:53 | <haskellbridge> | <ijouw> You are correct, I somehow missed that. Thanks |
| 17:36:52 | <tomsmeding> | (now whether this is a good idea or not is a separate question) |
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| 17:45:14 | <tomsmeding> | int-e: IIRC the hackage-content subdomain had to do with "authentication cookies exist" + "package docs can have arbitrary javascript" |
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| 17:45:38 | <int-e> | tomsmeding: ah, that makes sense |
| 17:46:08 | <tomsmeding> | stuff has been written about this, too lazy to look it up now; there has been talk also of this not even being enough as haskell.org is still a parent domain of hackage-content.haskell.org |
| 17:46:52 | <int-e> | Clearly I'm out of touch. (Unironically.) |
| 17:46:54 | <tomsmeding> | https://discourse.haskell.org/t/security-advisory-hsec-2024-0004-hackage-package-and-doc-upload-stored-xss-vulnerability/13547 |
| 17:46:59 | <tomsmeding> | apparently not too lazy |
| 17:47:58 | <int-e> | I imagine it was a spur-of-the-moment "I can try this one thing" and then it actually works |
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| 20:47:06 | <tomsmeding> | Is there a cute way to write `f <$> sequence x`? |
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| 20:47:32 | <tomsmeding> | (no, this is not traverse) |
| 20:49:05 | <monochrom> | I think it's already very cute. :) |
| 20:49:17 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
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| 20:49:29 | <tomsmeding> | it just feels like one of those things that is bound to have some funny combinator |
| 20:51:23 | <EvanR> | djinn doesn't know traversable, literally unusable |
| 20:51:29 | <tomsmeding> | yes |
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| 20:52:17 | <int-e> | but there's no traversal here; f is just applied to the entire list that results from sequence |
| 20:52:25 | <tomsmeding> | indeed |
| 20:52:35 | <tomsmeding> | probably monochrom was just right all along |
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| 23:04:08 | <__monty__> | Of course it's traverse, just in disguise, `f <$> traverse id x` ; ) |
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| 23:40:14 | <haskellbridge> | <alexfmpe> If f is a "applicative transformation " as described in https://hackage-content.haskell.org/package/base-4.22.0.0/docs/Data-Traversable.html#laws |
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| 23:49:34 | <EvanR> | \o/ |
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