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| 06:35:22 | <gentauro> | 21:53 < newmind> sshine: a lot of windows installation in a corporate settings are also managed, so it's not even that they are not interested in it, it's often simply not permitted |
| 06:35:40 | <gentauro> | newmind: and this is why products like `Admin By Request` are used everywhere |
| 06:36:36 | gentauro | fun fact, `Admin By Request` was developed entirely by `Lars Sneftrup` (dane) |
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| 06:40:32 | <gentauro> | jreicher, what do you mean by RPN? Reverse Polish Notation? |
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| 07:09:46 | <gentauro> | btw, when jumping back and forth between diff prog-langs, with support for FP (ish), this table from Gustavo Guerra (ovatus old blog) is really nice to have -> https://github.com/ovatsus/ovatsus.github.com/blob/master/blog/2013/11/10/higher-order-list-operations-across-languages/index.html#L112-L125 |
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| 08:02:45 | <jreicher> | gentauro: yes |
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| 08:41:34 | <gentauro> | jreicher: you really need to use terms they understand. Try to explain `classes` to kidos where in their vocabulay class = (school) class :0 |
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| 08:48:56 | <jreicher> | I know. I tend to use prefix/postfix if I'm not talking to people who enjoy the old names. ;) |
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| 14:06:05 | <lisbeths> | uh I think binary lambda calculus 2 + a memory palace is good for Turing complete mnemonics |
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| 16:55:22 | <dminuoso> | Python strikes again. |
| 16:55:39 | <dminuoso> | django.conf.settings is an attempt at lazyness, but done in a grotesque and buggy way |
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| 16:56:49 | <dminuoso> | While we protect recursion in our thunks with blackhole, django.conf.settings not only allows it, but of course you end up with at scenario where not only can a recursive evaluation end up with a different value, but because they mutate state you end up with scenarios where depending on the order of evaluation you have three possible states that range from "bugged, bugged and buggy, and slightly |
| 16:56:51 | <dminuoso> | less bugged" |
| 16:57:47 | <dminuoso> | Or maybe "recursion" is the wrong term here, reentrance seems more fitting. |
| 16:57:52 | <haskellbridge> | <magic_rb> Sounds like great software ngl |
| 16:59:50 | <[exa]> | it's tested by time |
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| 17:17:46 | <mesaoptimizer> | well, by a lot of people you mean |
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| 18:21:42 | <EvanR> | that is what happens when people think what's the big deal it's all 1s and 0s |
| 18:22:24 | <EvanR> | no semantic balls |
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| 18:32:44 | <L29Ah> | only type holes? |
| 18:33:32 | <monochrom> | Just fill your type holes with semantics balls >:) |
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| 19:01:54 | <mesaoptimizer> | what is a semantic ball |
| 19:07:15 | <EvanR> | when you assert during the design process that what we're creating is not a random arrangement of machine code instructions to munge the computer words to and fro, but (exact or approximate in some sense) realization of some semantics, this latter objective is much more narrow and focused. And not everyone has the guts (or foolhardiness?) to try! |
| 19:08:28 | <EvanR> | e.g. you might sabotage yourself second guessing whether the more narrow and defined objective is appropriate for the problem |
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| 20:28:05 | <Franciman> | mesaoptimizer: semantic web inventions /jk |
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