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05:04:32 <gk[m]> hello breadman
05:05:44 <gk[m]> Solid: what would your thoughts on a new release be? There have been 174 commits since 0.4.1 released, and that was in september of last year -- nearly 11 months ago.
06:08:53 <Solid> gk[m]: it's an interesting question; I think David's original intent was to finish the keycode refactor and some small regressions that were talked about (like #258) and then make a new release
06:24:57 <gk[m]> Ah - makes sense.
06:26:46 <gk[m]> The thing that made me think of it was cmp-seq-delay being in the example configs -- someone brought it up on discord & I ran into it recently too.
06:27:01 <gk[m]> Looks like someone mentioned it yesterday here, too 🙂
06:52:36 <Solid> yeah we've been getting these every now and then
19:26:12 <contrapunctus> Is it just me or does Keycode.hs not have a key for double quotes?
19:26:44 <Tisoxin> afaik double quotes is the shifted single quote
19:27:28 <Tisoxin> (the keycodes stand for the position of the key, not for the symbol)
19:27:33 <contrapunctus> Ah
19:28:06 <contrapunctus> So if I want to swap " and '...what do I put in the defsrc?
19:28:56 <Tisoxin> are you using qwerty?
19:29:36 <contrapunctus> Dvorak
19:30:29 <Tisoxin> i don't think there is an easy way to do that (not with kmonad)
19:30:38 <contrapunctus> :o
19:31:03 <Tisoxin> i only can immagine to solutions
19:31:10 <Tisoxin> 1. you let kmonad handle shift
19:31:52 <Tisoxin> but that has a bunch of unwanted side effects and involves lots of boilerplate
19:33:00 <Tisoxin> 2. you somehow inform the OS, that you want to it should toggle shift after and before pressing this specific button (not sure, if this is possible)
19:33:41 <Tisoxin> contrapunctus: Do you need to be able using it on multiple OSs?
19:33:53 <contrapunctus> Tisoxin: just Linux
19:34:00 <contrapunctus> Should I make a FR for this? 🤔
19:34:01 <Tisoxin> nice
19:34:09 <Tisoxin> In that case, i could help you
19:34:13 <Tisoxin> FR?
19:34:21 <contrapunctus> 😀
19:34:31 <contrapunctus> Feature Request
19:35:11 <Tisoxin> Well, with the current kmonad configuring language, such a feature can't be implemented (as far as i'm aware)
19:35:55 <Tisoxin> But go for it, the config language will be refactored soonâ„¢
19:36:21 <Tisoxin> contrapunctus: Have you ever „played“ around with xkb?
19:37:12 <Tisoxin> contrapunctus: Which specific distro are you using?
19:38:38 <Tisoxin> Are you using the us(dvorak) layout?
19:39:02 <contrapunctus> Tisoxin: xkb? I haven't
19:39:10 <contrapunctus> Debian Testing
19:39:18 <contrapunctus> US Dvorak, yeah.
19:40:15 <Tisoxin> are you okay with touching files in /usr/share ?
19:41:51 <Tisoxin> There are other ways, but this one is especially simple
19:51:38 <contrapunctus> Tisoxin: I'd prefer not requiring root to make the changes 🤔
19:51:53 <Tisoxin> ok
19:51:57 <Tisoxin> Do you use wayland?
19:56:47 <contrapunctus> Nay, X :(
19:56:53 <Tisoxin> ok
19:56:59 <Tisoxin> (I use it as well)
19:59:41 Tisoxin posted a file: (0KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/shmerver.de/HuBiDCzBvTynsfhcletorZQo/alt-layout.bash >
19:59:43 <Tisoxin> frick
19:59:47 <Tisoxin> that was the wrong file
20:00:00 Tisoxin posted a file: (2KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/shmerver.de/WbAsnfEkEuVDPHptCYftvvoM/xkb.tar.gz >
20:00:32 <Tisoxin> take a look at those files
20:00:39 <Tisoxin> (at the second archive)
20:00:43 <Tisoxin> this is my xkb setup
20:01:11 <Tisoxin> (xkb is the keyboard configuration on xorg)
20:01:46 <Tisoxin> i use two layouts, normal qwertz and the ergonomic layout bone
20:02:16 <Tisoxin> alt-layout.bash loads the layout in alt-layout.xkb on the xserver
20:02:27 <Tisoxin> layout.bash loads the layout in layout.xkb
20:03:55 <Tisoxin> nvm
20:11:17 Tisoxin posted a file: (1KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/shmerver.de/RIosZNlhmFhoynHfLkFChskY/xkb.contra.tar.gz >
20:11:24 <Tisoxin> Take a look at this archive
20:11:32 <Tisoxin> This should be a working config
20:12:07 <Tisoxin> with the desired baviour
20:12:15 <Tisoxin> You just need to execute the `layout.bash`
20:12:37 <Tisoxin> (feel free to check the script for malicious code)
20:12:44 <Tisoxin> its very short
20:12:55 <Tisoxin> and i can guarantee you, there is no such code
20:13:17 <Tisoxin> (Though you shouldn't trust ppl on the internet, should you?)
20:13:38 <Tisoxin> anyway, i'm going afk now

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