Logs on 2021-05-28 (liberachat/#xmonad)
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| 00:42:55 | <jg> | Hi everyone, I am going honesty mad, I am running a barebones install of arch on virtualbox, I used static-stack from the aur to compile everyting which includes: xmonad, xmobar, and xmonad-contrib, I added all flags to xmobar except for alsa. I am currently getting the error .xmobarrc: hGetContents: invalid argument (invalid byte sequence) when |
| 00:42:55 | <jg> | trying to launch xmobar. When I remove the degrees symbol the xmobar launches and compiles just fine. Running 'file .xmobarrc' confirms it is a UTF-8 file. and when I run localectl list-locales it returns en_US.UTF-8. How can I work around and get the degree's symbol to compile? |
| 00:45:46 | <geekosaur> | you might make sure the locale xmonad and xmobar run from is the same as the one in the terminal; most distributions that aren't Debian-based separate them. does xmobar run correctly from a terminal? |
| 00:46:48 | <jg> | @ge |
| 00:46:48 | <lambdabot> | Maybe you meant: get-shapr get-topic wn v rc pl let id ghc do bf @ ? . |
| 00:46:59 | <jg> | geekosaur this is when trying to run from terminal directly |
| 00:47:29 | <jg> | I havent tried to run from xmonad yet |
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| 00:53:05 | <geekosaur> | hm. I suggest posting this on xmobar's issue tracker (https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/issues) since nobody here has been able to help |
| 00:53:44 | <jg> | alright I will thanks |
| 00:53:53 | <geekosaur> | possibly there is a bug, although utf8 support is supposed to be in xmobar at least with a flag but that doesn't control the .xmobarrc |
| 00:54:14 | <geekosaur> | also sorry my network chose that time to drop |
| 00:54:47 | <jg> | it is no worries! I just feel like it is probably something so small since no one else has had the issue lol |
| 01:06:11 | <jg> | I submitted something geekosaur thank you, I hope I put enough info but I can always add more if needed |
| 01:14:18 | <burp> | and this time without the degree symbol it works? |
| 01:23:25 | <jg> | yes sir burp |
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| 01:26:46 | <burp> | well then |
| 01:27:52 | <jg> | i tried jaor's suggestion of doing \x0b, however it shows a box so im not sure lol the font is installed |
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| 01:40:09 | <burp> | try \x2103 |
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| 01:41:06 | <jg> | \xb0 works per jaor, i wonder why the normal doesnt work |
| 01:42:30 | <jg> | burp, that also works and includes the C, what font is that part of? |
| 01:42:41 | <burp> | the font you choose |
| 01:42:48 | <burp> | it's just another unicode symbol |
| 01:42:55 | <burp> | just looked it up on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_symbol |
| 01:43:03 | <burp> | see the right side: U+2103 |
| 01:43:19 | <burp> | and above that U+B0 |
| 01:43:30 | <burp> | which is your \xb0 |
| 01:44:21 | <jg> | well its a great work around :) lmao I feel stupid af |
| 01:45:15 | <burp> | ☺ |
| 01:46:57 | <jg> | hmm well maybe I will swap over my main machine to stack and get off of arches repos... |
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| 01:54:53 | <jg> | omg the fullscreen handling on this version is so much better than my toggle work around on .15 |
| 01:55:19 | <jg> | now to make the workspace clickable lol |
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| 04:08:20 | <jg> | quick question when using the StatusBar Hook for anyone that better understand this than me, I have mine set up like the tutorial shown, to use 'withEasySB (statusBarProp "xmobar" (pure myXmobarPP)) defToggleStrutsKey' which works great until I recompile/restart xmonad. After restarting xmonad, the xmobar is stuck on the screen and does not allow |
| 04:08:20 | <jg> | for the toggling of struts. If I open a new program or window however, it goes back to behaving and toggling struts. I am not sure if this is on my end or maybe a bug somewhere |
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| 04:44:47 | <xacktm> | jg, you've used teh `docks` wrapper to apply dock bar support? previous method of modifying just one hook is insufficient since a few years ago; `docks` does more than one |
| 04:44:59 | <xacktm> | does more than one hook* |
| 04:46:51 | <jg> | I'll upload a paste bin, im not 100 % sure |
| 04:49:52 | <jg> | https://pastebin.com/3ax6cECV |
| 04:50:26 | <jg> | xacktm this is how I am currently doing it, I've just pieced this together sadly as I am learning |
| 04:52:19 | <xacktm> | cargo culting woo! That's how I did it back in the day too :p |
| 04:53:10 | <xacktm> | and yeah I don't see the docks function in there, here's the page, docs should be good but lmk if you get stuck: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-ManageDocks.html |
| 04:53:46 | <jg> | I'll give it a go thank you, Yea I am tinkering with the new .16 and .17 lol |
| 04:54:19 | <jg> | the new statusBar has some cool stuff in it |
| 05:04:41 | <jg> | xacktm I'm having no luck lol |
| 05:04:54 | <xacktm> | new paste? |
| 05:06:43 | <jg> | https://pastebin.com/eKenqVmd I appreciate the help by the way xacktm |
| 05:06:56 | <jg> | wait |
| 05:06:59 | <jg> | wrong paste bin |
| 05:08:37 | <xacktm> | ok lol, was gonna say.. |
| 05:08:42 | <jg> | xacktm - here is my changes https://pastebin.com/ZSz1YhiP |
| 05:09:05 | <jg> | the status bar has the toggle struts to mod b in the git xmonad-contribs |
| 05:11:05 | <jg> | it does not compile if i add docks def to my main below ewmh |
| 05:12:45 | <xacktm> | ah, well you've already used `def` in myXMobarPP; as long as you apply it somwhere in that . function chain |
| 05:13:02 | <xacktm> | try right below ewmh, ". docks" |
| 05:13:24 | <xacktm> | which should insert docks in the composition chain after the xmobar config |
| 05:13:59 | <xacktm> | :t (.) |
| 05:14:00 | <lambdabot> | (b -> c) -> (a -> b) -> a -> c |
| 05:14:10 | <xacktm> | :t ($) |
| 05:14:11 | <lambdabot> | (a -> b) -> a -> b |
| 05:14:39 | <jg> | xacktm with it above xmobar chain it still doesnt behave after the recompile until I open and close a terminal |
| 05:14:40 | <xacktm> | I still don't have a good intuition of (.) and sometimes just convert them to function application $ |
| 05:14:55 | <jg> | I can try changing them all to $ |
| 05:15:09 | <xacktm> | shouldn't matter, it compiles though? |
| 05:15:24 | <jg> | yea it compiles the bar just doesnt want to get off the screen lmao |
| 05:15:56 | <jg> | its bizzare that opening a terminal causes it to then allow for toggling of struts |
| 05:17:56 | <xacktm> | weird, not to sound cliche` but have you tried a complete X restart? |
| 05:18:43 | <jg> | yes haha, restart was the first thing I tried |
| 05:18:54 | <jg> | I just did it again to check my sanity lol |
| 05:19:06 | <jg> | if you run the config does it work or cause those same issues? |
| 05:20:21 | <xacktm> | it would be good for someone to reproduce but I've got my windows tied up atm :S |
| 05:20:33 | <xacktm> | and I'm on 0.15 still |
| 05:21:04 | <jg> | damn yea my main rig is on .15, im messing with this in a vm |
| 05:22:31 | <xacktm> | oh, check the docks, the layout needs the avoidStruts modifier |
| 05:22:39 | <xacktm> | check the docs* |
| 05:24:22 | <jg> | yea I added the avoidStruts modifier |
| 05:24:28 | <jg> | no cigar |
| 05:24:54 | <xacktm> | :/ new paste? |
| 05:25:24 | <jg> | it was the same as the old paste i recently sent, i added avoidStruts around (tiled ||| Mirror ... etc) |
| 05:25:55 | <jg> | like of a fresh boot its chill, its only after an xmonad --restart |
| 05:25:55 | <xacktm> | kk, and you did the same restart X song and dance I'm guessing :S |
| 05:25:57 | <jg> | that it fails |
| 05:26:42 | <jg> | which makes it so bizarre because doesnt doing exec xmonad cause a recompile and restart |
| 05:28:48 | <jg> | opening any window causes it to work again, so its not that big of a deal, its just really interesting lol |
| 05:31:18 | <jg> | I'll keep tinkering this weekend, but I can live with it for now, I appreciate the help xacktm, I'll let you know if I figure something out, I might ask jaor in the github |
| 05:32:17 | <xacktm> | ok, at least you found a workaround; can't say I'm seeing those symptoms in 0.15 as if I hide the status bar, then recompile, it's still hidden :/ |
| 05:32:29 | <jg> | oh yea, my 0.15 has no issues |
| 05:33:04 | <jg> | but I'm doing it differently than in 0.15, I'm using the new Hook.StatusBar |
| 05:33:45 | <xacktm> | ah idk how that works |
| 05:33:55 | <jg> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/StatusBar.hs |
| 05:34:05 | <jg> | check it out, I think its pretty nifty |
| 05:35:09 | <jg> | lmfao xacktm, I just looked deeper, they mention the problem lol let me see if it says a solution |
| 05:35:34 | <xacktm> | nice lol, at least it's known |
| 05:36:01 | <jg> | maybe, they did a work around to restart xmobar, which might be causing the issue |
| 05:39:15 | <jg> | I'm at a loss, goodnight dog |
| 05:39:31 | <xacktm> | kk gngl |
| 05:40:04 | <xacktm> | sorry, games-speak is invading my vocab: good night and good luck! |
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| 05:45:14 | <Solid> | xacktm: withEasySB already includes the docks combinator |
| 05:46:24 | <xacktm> | ah oops, so it should've kept the status bar hidden on his first config |
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| 06:51:11 | <spider_> | so.. has there a discussion on whats going to happen with the wayland situation |
| 06:57:11 | <spider_> | nvm gotta go |
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| 14:32:38 | <Solid> | liskin: what do you think about merging the tutorial so we can already officially link to it on the website/we also have that INSTALL.md document ready for the hordes of Arch users who are showing up here lately :> |
| 14:35:33 | <liskin> | Solid: I think this process (merge the good enough version early and I'll get to it and perfect it later) worked well with the website so go ahead :-) |
| 14:36:24 | <Solid> | nice :) |
| 14:37:09 | <liskin> | I should perhaps try to overcome this obsession of refusing to merge stuff I haven't had time to meticulously review |
| 14:39:45 | <liskin> | on the other hand, the current way of doing things, that is meticulously review stuff from people who can't merge it themselves, and hand write access to people who can be trusted to make good judgement when to seek more review and when to merge, possibly scales better long term |
| 14:39:47 | <liskin> | at least I hope |
| 14:47:50 | <Solid> | I think the current way is fine tbh |
| 14:48:11 | <Solid> | I'm not a fan of the hands-off "merge everything and then frantically push fixes when things break" approach |
| 14:52:11 | <liskin> | yeah, me neither, but there might be a tradeoff somewhere in the middle, something that might be described as "collaborate on a shared codebase", that doesn't necessarily mean we always merge the first attempt |
| 14:52:28 | <liskin> | like the dynamic status bars, that's probably good enough for people to iterate on |
| 14:53:08 | <liskin> | but I haven't tried it yet, so I'm reluctant to sign off on it, so I'm a bottleneck |
| 14:53:51 | <liskin> | (actually, not really, because mc47 does have write to -contrib, so it's not just my fault it's not merged yet :-)) |
| 14:54:40 | <Solid> | :D |
| 14:56:01 | <liskin> | which reminds me of the toggle strut issue jg reported here during the night :-( |
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| 14:57:12 | <mc47> | not a better time to join :)) |
| 14:57:22 | <Solid> | hah |
| 14:57:28 | <liskin> | sounded like the old xmobar didn't terminate on and waited until it got another input to show |
| 14:57:58 | <mc47> | I thought I still didn't add dynamicEasySBs, but apaprently I did, so we could just merge it |
| 14:58:47 | <mc47> | the only issue there is the composability with #460, but we could take care of it afterwards |
| 14:59:01 | <jg> | Y’all run into an issue with the new xmonad statusbar hook where when you —restart the xmobarwno longer behaves struts until opening a window. I might make a github post but not sure if I should put it on xmonad contrib or xmobar |
| 14:59:24 | <liskin> | jg: hey here's a crazy idea: do you have any sensitive data on that VM of yours? there are apparently two issues that we're interested in understanding, so if you just give us the VM in the broken state then we can dig right into it :-) |
| 14:59:59 | mc47 | has also been spending a lot of time on his thesis... writing a linter without constructing an AST was quite the challenge |
| 15:00:16 | <jg> | Nah I got nothin on it I could install SSH later. I got around my issue with the degree symbol by using Unicode directly recommended by jaor |
| 15:01:10 | <liskin> | I thought you'd just send the disk image itself, as doing graphical stuff over ssh will be a bit painful |
| 15:01:58 | <liskin> | mc47: why not construct an AST? trying to do single-pass constant-memory stuff? |
| 15:02:21 | <jg> | Oh yea I could totally do that when I get home! What are the issues you’re trying to find or y’all are just being hella nice haha! And how would I share it with y’all ? |
| 15:03:18 | <mc47> | liskin it's not really worth it, and it's also kinda useless, since you can define new syntax on the fly (isabelle enables you to do some really wacky stuff) |
| 15:04:00 | <mc47> | And the grammar is a bit complicated |
| 15:05:30 | <mc47> | the middle ground we're going with is to implement the lints themselves as parser combinators, and provide combinators for the most common syntactical constructs... that way you can easily add new lint types, and I won't have to parse the whole grammar |
| 15:06:10 | <liskin> | jg: the xmobar encoding issue because I'm just really nice and really curious what the root cause is and I want to know what to tell the next person who comes with the same problem; and then the toggle struts issue, because that might be a real problem of X.H.StatusBar that we want fixed before the release |
| 15:06:49 | <liskin> | and how to share, hm, that's a good question |
| 15:07:17 | <jg> | I could probably upload to dropbox maybe and share it. I’m not sure of file size limitations |
| 15:07:44 | <liskin> | yeah a dropbox or google drive should work if you have enough free capacity there |
| 15:08:02 | <liskin> | google drive has no limitations on single file sizes as far as I know |
| 15:08:24 | <liskin> | if you compress the disk image it's not going to be more than a gig anyway |
| 15:09:45 | <jg> | yea I can try to figure it out and get that to you. I really appreciate it. That statsbar hook y’all made is really something though beyond that little hickup. I thought it was hella cool |
| 15:10:31 | <jg> | Which could totally be on my end too haha and not a problem with the hook |
| 15:10:31 | <mc47> | that's awesome to hear :D |
| 15:12:12 | <liskin> | yeah and it's going to get better with the PR we were just talking about merging :-) |
| 15:18:58 | <mc47> | I'll take a look at it again later or tomorrow, and merge it if that's okay |
| 15:19:19 | <mc47> | That way people can use and we can get a broader feedback |
| 15:19:23 | <jg> | What’s the PR? I missed that part haha |
| 15:19:39 | <mc47> | We could also wait a bit liskin, if you really want to try it before merging :D |
| 15:19:44 | <mc47> | jq: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/463 |
| 15:20:34 | <mc47> | status bars that react to changes in the monitor configuration (plugging-in/out) |
| 15:21:51 | <jg> | Oh that’s dope. I take it that would work for dual monitor setups too? As in I have a script that turns off my second monitor when playing games so I can use gsync. However even when I have 1 monitor on, it used to still spawn 2 xmonars with the spawnpipe |
| 15:22:19 | <jg> | At least both showed up in htop |
| 15:22:51 | <mc47> | yeah that's why I created it, I have the tendency to plug-out my external monitor and lay on my bed sometimes, and it was a bit annoying that xmobar doesn't react to that |
| 15:23:16 | <mc47> | so yeah, if you turn off your second monitor, xmobar will die with it, if you turn it on again, it'll respawn |
| 15:25:18 | <liskin> | mc47: I just went through the diff and have just one minor comment: might be nice to explicitly mention that the active bar tracking (remembering) uses the command line as a key |
| 15:25:51 | <liskin> | just so that when people accidentally spawn two xmobars without parameters, they can read a bit more and find out what's wrong |
| 15:25:59 | <mc47> | Oh that's a good point |
| 15:26:04 | <liskin> | otherwise it's really good to go |
| 15:26:14 | <mc47> | I remember we talked about this issue |
| 15:26:39 | <liskin> | I'll plug in X.H.Rescreen later, but there's no reason to delay the merge any further |
| 15:28:07 | <liskin> | I had this idea that with the extensible conf stuff, we could possibly resurrect the old "statusBar" api because now it would compose safely, but it may be best to just push for dynamicSBs to be the primary way users use this |
| 15:28:36 | <liskin> | anyway no need to worry about that now |
| 15:29:16 | <liskin> | just wanted to plant some seeds so that a month later when I get to it, you guys will have it figured out |
| 15:29:41 | <jg> | mc47 Let me know when I can test that out haha I’d love to give it a spin |
| 15:29:52 | <mc47> | sounds reasonable |
| 15:30:06 | <mc47> | jq I'll add liskin's comment and merge later tonight |
| 15:30:55 | <liskin> | jg: don't forget to back up your vms disk before going too far in that direction, I'll it to be as broken as it is now :-) |
| 15:31:05 | <liskin> | *'ll need it … |
| 15:31:24 | <jg> | Oh heck yea, I should get off work in 6 ish hours. And the I’ll have that disk for you liskin. If I do tinker I’ll clone my disk in its current state before hand |
| 15:31:53 | <jg> | I wonder if discord ha a file size limit lol |
| 15:31:55 | <jg> | has |
| 15:33:17 | <jg> | liskin I forget who but someone linked a bug with gcc the other day that prevents it from being able to compile the Alsa flag in xmobar I’m not sure if you were aware of that. At least I can’t on version 11.1 |
| 15:34:02 | <liskin> | jg: I saw that probably but decided that's outside of my area of expertise/interest |
| 15:34:42 | <liskin> | (I don't personally use volume indicators, my laptop has a mute led and that's all I need) |
| 15:34:43 | <jg> | Would jaor care much or probably not? I don’t need it lol |
| 15:35:07 | <jg> | i can make a little post for them if you think it would be beneficial |
| 15:35:50 | <liskin> | might be worth reporting to xmobar/issues |
| 15:36:26 | <geekosaur> | well, the bug wasn't in xmobar per se, it ws in one of the dependencies |
| 15:41:24 | <geekosaur> | hm, might be https://github.com/ttuegel/alsa-mixer/issues/7 |
| 15:41:56 | <geekosaur> | although it's not quite the same error message ("'#' doesn't belong here") |
| 15:42:25 | <jg> | Yea the error mentioned something with the C library or something if I remember right |
| 15:43:19 | <jg> | Idk I use a dac So my volume is always at 100 lol |
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| 16:22:05 | <mc47> | alright, #463 is only a proof-read and a squash away from merge |
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| 16:45:36 | <mc47> | oh wow that ci speedup is so good! |
| 16:48:00 | <liskin> | is is really that different? |
| 16:48:08 | <liskin> | the stack workflow is still 4 minutes |
| 16:48:29 | <mc47> | I felt it is, I think we were around 7-10 minutes before it |
| 16:51:56 | <liskin> | if you get unlucky and don't hit any caches :-) |
| 16:54:37 | <liskin> | anyway, would be nice if the tutorial was linked from https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad#readme |
| 16:54:50 | <liskin> | that README is like 10 years out of date :-( |
| 16:56:00 | <jg> | liskin I can try and draft up some stack install instructions for arch if it would help |
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| 16:57:25 | <liskin> | jg: there are stack install instructions in the INSTALL.md already |
| 16:57:51 | <liskin> | wouldn't hurt if someone who recently did it checked them though |
| 16:59:08 | <jg> | yea I can take a look! I think it has some stuff for Debian based systems. It would be to add like maybe a line for arch of just yay -S static-stack to avoid most of arches issues |
| 16:59:44 | <liskin> | makes sense, yeah |
| 17:02:39 | <jg> | Oooh the x11 thing got added I havet looked at this in a little ! Or maybe I glanced over it |
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| 17:28:35 | <liskin> | Solid: btw, I ended up doing https://github.com/liskin/xmonad-web/commit/02e3aa11ecf351fb61852b72499e58d7e0152d1b because GEM_HOME reuses gems installed in the system, and that sometimes breaks (I had to bisect github-pages yesterday and it just crashed on most versions) |
| 17:28:51 | <liskin> | Solid: so this is basically what your README does, just automated |
| 17:29:03 | <liskin> | and the --livereload is really nice :-) |
| 17:29:39 | <liskin> | together with https://github.com/liskin/xmonad-web/commit/08b9354535d9a61a612a8ef605a160eb79f20da9, which mc47 will like (speedup!) that gives almost wysiwyg-like experience :-) |
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| 17:42:39 | <mc47> | that's awesome! I'm glad we didn't go with hakyll |
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| 20:22:33 | <jg> | liskin, I am going to try and package it up for you if youre still on |
| 20:23:52 | <liskin> | jg: I'm still on |
| 20:24:11 | <liskin> | not sure I'll get to the actual investigation but I can grab it and try booting it |
| 20:25:11 | <jg> | oh no worries at all, I just wanted to make sure you got it, there is absolutely no rush |
| 20:27:00 | <jg> | I am exporting right now and then I will try and set up a folder |
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| 20:39:41 | <jg> | libskin would you prefer a link or to the drive folder or an email invite |
| 20:40:22 | <jg> | liskin* |
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| 20:41:51 | <liskin> | jg: a link but don't care really |
| 20:42:30 | <liskin> | if you post it here it'll be logged for eternity; but then you'll presumably delete it anyway so … |
| 20:43:14 | <jg> | lmao fair, whatever you think is best |
| 20:52:00 | <mc47> | jq I just merged the PR we were talking about, so you can gladly give it a try and tell us what you think |
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| 20:54:36 | <geekosaur> | <mc47> jq I just merged the PR we were talking about, so you can gladly give it a try and tell us what you think |
| 20:58:25 | <jg> | geekosaur, Yea I can try and take a look, it is in the X.M.StatusBar correct? |
| 20:59:43 | <geekosaur> | I believe so, yes |
| 21:00:26 | <mc47> | yes, if you know how to generate the documentation, it's under Dynamic Status bars |
| 21:00:42 | <mc47> | (stack haddock would generate the docks, for example) |
| 21:01:05 | <jg> | mc47 lol I don't know how, I've just been reading through the comments on github |
| 21:01:35 | <mc47> | that's tedious lol |
| 21:01:50 | <jg> | I am a bit of a newb... |
| 21:02:16 | <liskin> | might be a nice little project to publish latest haddocks from github actions |
| 21:02:39 | <mc47> | if you're using stack, just run `stack haddock` inside your cloned xmonad-contrib repo, and at the end of the logs you'll find a link to the html documentation |
| 21:02:44 | <liskin> | (well, "nice" and "little" might not turn out to be accurate, though :-)) |
| 21:03:03 | <geekosaur> | we used to publish them to the wiki years ago,m then switched to just pointing to hackage |
| 21:03:06 | <jg> | ooh let me launch the vm and try |
| 21:03:22 | <liskin> | geekosaur: actually they were part of the website not that long ago |
| 21:03:32 | <mc47> | hmm, is there something like "artifacts" in github actions? |
| 21:03:51 | <liskin> | mc47: https://docs.github.com/en/actions/guides/storing-workflow-data-as-artifacts |
| 21:04:09 | <liskin> | dunno if you can host a bunch of html pages from that, though |
| 21:04:27 | <liskin> | there are all sorts of security implications if they allow that |
| 21:04:35 | <mc47> | interesting |
| 21:04:35 | <geekosaur> | and all of this reminds me that originally I was going to work on migrating the wiki this week, before the freenode shitstorm |
| 21:04:50 | <jg> | running stack haddock rn its almost done |
| 21:06:33 | <jg> | mc47, i cd'd to my xmonad-contrib folder and ran stack haddock, what should I be looking for after |
| 21:07:02 | <jg> | jk i font the doc folder |
| 21:07:11 | <mc47> | you should see a bunch of links to the documentation |
| 21:08:34 | <jg> | these are links to the .16 stuff though, is this current with the commit made? |
| 21:09:04 | <mc47> | haven't you checked out the master branch? |
| 21:09:14 | <mc47> | you might need to run `git pull` |
| 21:09:35 | <jg> | ah i just cloned the repo via 'git clone' |
| 21:10:24 | <jg> | liskin, it shoud be uploaded to that folder, lmk if i need to relink it |
| 21:10:35 | <jg> | I included the iso with it |
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| 21:21:27 | <jg> | mc47 after I git pull in each folder I just re-run stack install correct? |
| 21:21:51 | <mc47> | not sure how you've set it up |
| 21:21:59 | <jg> | lol ill just send it |
| 21:22:16 | <mc47> | but if you followed the tutorial, stack build should do its job i guess |
| 21:22:19 | <jg> | git pulled all 3, stack update, stack install lol |
| 21:22:35 | <mc47> | you don't need stack update |
| 21:22:43 | <mc47> | you actually just need to run stack build in your xmonad repo |
| 21:22:47 | <mc47> | (probably) |
| 21:23:03 | <jg> | good to know for future lol i'll just brute force it, I gave this vm 8 cores so it shouldnt take to long |
| 21:23:53 | <mc47> | (the difference between stack build and stack install, is that stack install just does stack build and symlinks the binary) |
| 21:27:20 | <jg> | geekosaur I am just trying to figure out how to extend vm to my second screen |
| 21:29:55 | <liskin> | jg: it's 0.16 because we haven't bumped the version yet |
| 21:30:04 | <liskin> | so git master still builds as 0.16 |
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| 21:33:21 | <jg> | accidently closed my X11 lmfao |
| 21:34:15 | <liskin> | jg: re folder, I haven't seen the link anywhere; if you posted it around 22:53:00 CEST (20:53 UTC) you dropped out at the time |
| 21:35:26 | <jg> | liskin here you go big dog: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1k5kJgxSkWgV_in2s6jIdJY5czedxtTqc?usp=sharing |
| 21:38:39 | <liskin> | jg: okay, downloading |
| 21:48:42 | <jg> | geekosaur, i got my vm to display both monitors, do i need to create two spawn pipes like in .15 for the xmobar to display on both screens. at the moment, it does not detect my second screen to generate another bar on its own |
| 21:49:42 | <geekosaur> | jg, I was just forwarding mc47 said just before IRC told us you'd fallen out of the channel again; I have little to do with the dynamic status bar stuff. But my understanding is that if it's configured correctly it should be automatic |
| 21:50:20 | <geekosaur> | (It does require configuration, not everyone wants multiple statusbars just because they have multiple monitors.) |
| 21:51:03 | <jg> | hmmmm, I used the withEasySB (statusBarProp "xmobar" (pure myXmobarPP)) defTogleStrutsKey, but I was not prompeted with anything |
| 21:51:20 | <mc47> | that should create one status bar |
| 21:51:25 | <jg> | ahh |
| 21:51:35 | <jg> | so its a me problem |
| 21:52:01 | <mc47> | if you want more, you can either compose them with <>, or use dynamicSBs (or dynamicEasySBs) |
| 21:52:36 | <jg> | like create a withSB section like hsown around line 252? |
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| 21:53:23 | <mc47> | not sure about the line, but yeah |
| 21:53:41 | <mc47> | if you're looking at the source, the docs start at line 376 |
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| 21:54:25 | <jg> | mc47, I am looking at the StatusBar.hs on github |
| 21:54:38 | <jg> | i have a feeling im in the wrong spot |
| 21:55:15 | <mc47> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Hooks/StatusBar.hs#L375 |
| 21:56:27 | <jg> | lit, reading now |
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| 22:04:39 | <liskin> | mc47: thought about the docs a bit and I think the easiest solution is to push the result into gh-pages on the xmonad and xmonad-contrib repos, possibly just the latter as it'd build haddock for both |
| 22:05:06 | <liskin> | a hack but we don't need pages on those repos for anything else do we? |
| 22:05:32 | <mc47> | sounds good to me |
| 22:10:21 | <jg> | mc47 I believe i got it set up right, as I compiled, however, I do not think it likes my virtual screens as I have no bars now lol |
| 22:10:40 | <jg> | do you know if virtual screens are identified different than 0 and 1 |
| 22:11:02 | <mc47> | no idea, sorry |
| 22:11:07 | <mc47> | did you check your logs maybe? |
| 22:11:20 | <mc47> | I'd start by launching "xmobar -x 0" from the terminal to debug it |
| 22:11:20 | <jg> | let me set them up with _XMONAD_LOG |
| 22:11:23 | <jg> | i did not |
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| 22:13:18 | <jg> | they both launch from terminal via "xmobar -x 0" or 1 |
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| 22:13:35 | <mc47> | hmm |
| 22:13:43 | <mc47> | maybe share your config? |
| 22:14:07 | <jg> | yea I will in a second, when i set up statusBarPropTo "_XMONAD_LOG_1" "xmobar.." where does that log go |
| 22:14:28 | <mc47> | to _XMONAD_LOG_1 ? Not sure I follow the question |
| 22:14:55 | <jg> | oh in the source code there was that xmonad log, i thought it was outputing an error file lol |
| 22:15:12 | <jg> | when you put the XMONAD_LOG |
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| 22:24:31 | <liskin> | jg: https://store.lisk.in/tmp/2021-05-28-232412_956x1059_scrot.png |
| 22:24:36 | <liskin> | what do I do :-) |
| 22:24:57 | <jg> | valid anyway i can pm you |
| 22:24:58 | <jg> | lol |
| 22:25:21 | <liskin> | I hope there's a dummy password in there |
| 22:25:36 | <liskin> | if not then I'll boot into a failsafe and reset it |
| 22:25:50 | <jg> | lol ima make a quick dock in here, fortunately its not a password I use for anything anymore |
| 22:26:27 | <jg> | liskin, made a file with the usr and psswd |
| 22:28:20 | <liskin> | jg: ok, I'm in it :-) |
| 22:29:41 | <jg> | liskin, so the issue comes when pressing mod+q or running xmonad --restart, mod+b will no longer toggle the xmobar, however, if you open a window such as a terminal, it will behave |
| 22:29:56 | <liskin> | I'm looking into the xmobar issue first |
| 22:30:07 | <jg> | mc47, im really struggling to copy to clipboard lol, sorry im struggling to get you this pastebin |
| 22:30:15 | <jg> | vim novice still |
| 22:30:38 | <liskin> | what editor did you use to edit the xmobarrc? when I start up vim the encoding is latin1 |
| 22:31:16 | <jg> | I use vim, that is weird, it should be un UTF |
| 22:31:55 | <geekosaur> | guess this explains the degree business? |
| 22:32:09 | <jg> | but when i ran file .xmobarrc, it spat out UTF-8 |
| 22:32:26 | <geekosaur> | "file" makes guesses; they're often wrong |
| 22:32:46 | <geekosaur> | files don't have metadata saying what their encoding is, sadly |
| 22:32:59 | <liskin> | geekosaur: it doesn't :-) |
| 22:33:00 | <mc47> | jq I'll have to check it tomorrow, I'm calling it a night |
| 22:33:11 | <jg> | no worries big dog, ill keep messing with it |
| 22:33:14 | <liskin> | the explanation for the degree business is this |
| 22:33:15 | <jg> | goodnight |
| 22:33:19 | <liskin> | /etc/local.conf vs /etc/locale.conf |
| 22:33:22 | <mc47> | good night! |
| 22:33:26 | <geekosaur> | oh, whoops |
| 22:33:27 | <liskin> | should be the latter, it is the former |
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| 22:33:36 | <liskin> | so the entire X session runs with LANG=C |
| 22:33:36 | <jg> | lmfao |
| 22:33:38 | <jg> | no way |
| 22:34:01 | <liskin> | yep :-) |
| 22:34:25 | <jg> | let me just go die in a corner |
| 22:35:35 | <liskin> | well anyway, I can reproduce the xmobar issue |
| 22:35:46 | <liskin> | so that's a good start |
| 22:35:48 | <jg> | the issue with struts? |
| 22:35:50 | <liskin> | y |
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| 22:38:57 | <jg> | well thas a lovely fix, that damn e, at least im not crazy with the other one haha |
| 22:39:42 | <liskin> | we don't know that yet :-D |
| 22:39:50 | <jg> | lmao calls me out on github haha |
| 22:39:59 | <liskin> | I hope you don't mind |
| 22:40:13 | <jg> | nah its all good dog, i deserve to be embarassed for that one |
| 22:40:33 | <liskin> | it's just, you know, if anyone else stumbles upon it, google will lead them to the solution, hopefully |
| 22:42:33 | <jg> | that is fair, idk maybe this dynamicSB will solve the issue once i figure out how to impliment it properly |
| 22:46:09 | <liskin> | okay, got this as well |
| 22:46:22 | <geekosaur> | welp. the alsa issue has been reproduced: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1957233 |
| 22:46:22 | <jg> | youre joking.. lmao please tell me im not the idiot |
| 22:46:26 | <liskin> | it's the overrideRedirect = False |
| 22:46:26 | <geekosaur> | gcc11 |
| 22:46:52 | <liskin> | jg: you're not an idiot, we probably didn't document this anywhere |
| 22:47:20 | <liskin> | struts toggling needs xmobar to lower itself on start, which it doesn't do when overrideRedirect is set to False |
| 22:47:34 | <jg> | where is that set? in xmobar |
| 22:47:59 | <liskin> | and until a couple weeks ago, overrideRedirect=False was the only way to get xmonad register position changes of xmobar |
| 22:48:14 | <liskin> | so I totally understand that people would choose one bug over the other :-) |
| 22:48:25 | <jg> | oh does the dynamicSB solve this? |
| 22:48:28 | <liskin> | no |
| 22:49:14 | <liskin> | but I think that you can just drop the overrideRedirect=False from your config and everything should be fine |
| 22:49:23 | <liskin> | jg: do you remember why you had it there in the first place? |
| 22:51:50 | <jg> | to be honest, it was a template I pulled from the tutorial |
| 22:52:18 | <jg> | but that totally fixes it |
| 22:52:32 | <jg> | hang on a sec ill link it |
| 22:52:48 | <liskin> | oh, yeah, indeed there is overrideRedirect = False in the tutorial |
| 22:53:06 | <jg> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/8dac0577b4050dddea040039e1bfb12c2f544afb/tutorial.md |
| 22:54:12 | <liskin> | that's a bit weird, that couldn't have ever worked, because I don't remember doing anything that would affect this behaviour in particular |
| 22:54:24 | <liskin> | Solid: does toggling struts work with overrideRedirect = False for you? |
| 22:55:04 | <liskin> | jg: so anyway, thanks, you've discovered a real issue that wasn't your fault at all |
| 22:55:18 | <jg> | I'm glad I could contribute a little |
| 22:55:46 | <jg> | I'm also glad it was not anything crazy, and it was a simple fix |
| 22:55:58 | <liskin> | (and I learned how to boot grub from the EFI shell, yay) |
| 22:56:11 | <jg> | how do you normally boot it? |
| 22:56:35 | <liskin> | normally it's installed as a boot entry |
| 22:56:55 | <liskin> | but I didn't use your entire vm, I just took the disk image and booted it with qemu |
| 22:57:03 | <liskin> | so the boot menu wasn't there :-) |
| 22:57:20 | <jg> | oh do you prefer qmenu? |
| 22:57:35 | <jg> | qemu |
| 22:58:10 | <liskin> | yeah, I prefer free software in general as long as it works |
| 22:58:30 | <jg> | respect |
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| 22:59:19 | <jg> | ill lyk if i figure out this barSpawner, im giong to try and struggle with it for a bit |
| 22:59:27 | <jg> | i appreciate the help |
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| 23:35:44 | <jg> | did any of yall have luck with dynamicSBs and barSpawner, I can make it run with "withSB and withEasySB" however not with barSpanwer and dynamicSBs, it compiles, it just does not actually run an instance of xmobar |
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| 23:42:36 | <jg-vm> | https://pastebin.com/niCedcrw here is the pastebin for my attempt |
| 23:44:11 | <liskin> | jg-vm: try dynamicEasySBs instead |
| 23:44:26 | <jg> | i did already actually :) |
| 23:44:38 | <liskin> | oh, and still nothing? :-( |
| 23:44:42 | <jg> | then i can remove the avoid struts from myLayout |
| 23:46:18 | <liskin> | I have no other ideas then, I haven't actually tried these dynamicSBs myself. I've read the code, it seemed okay, but haven't experimented with it yet. |
| 23:46:44 | <liskin> | Might need to wait for mc47 if you don't figure it out. |
| 23:47:03 | <jg> | its no worries I will keep tinkering, I did find that when I was using withSB in order for xmobar to read I had to change statusBarPropTo -> just statusBarProp |
| 23:47:13 | liskin | goes to bed as well now |
| 23:47:33 | <jg> | sleep well haha |
| 23:47:48 | <geekosaur> | you'd have to use separate xmobarrc-s set to use different XmonadPropLog-s |
| 23:48:06 | <geekosaur> | but that's about all I can tell you, I don't use xmobar |
| 23:48:30 | <jg> | all good, yea with it set to To, it let me use the same .xmobarrc, and all the linking worked and updated |
| 23:48:38 | <jg> | sorry without the To |
| 23:49:36 | <liskin> | separate rcs will eventually be necessary but it should do something with just one |
| 23:51:01 | <jg-vm> | https://pastebin.com/Pf7cugdT this is how I did it with a normal non-dynamic |
| 23:59:08 | → | allbery_b joins (~geekosaur@069-135-003-034.biz.spectrum.com) |
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