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01:54:52 yuu[m] < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/3e8c8dc2dbd3817083fcfd5c9f0d5c01f869800e/message.txt >
01:56:15 <geekosaur> there are contrib modules to do all of those
01:56:17 yuu[m] < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/4ba81cd354f9f52f3b58a3834606d69ba8eda57a/message.txt >
01:57:22 <yuu[m]> this one for tabbed works good?
01:57:22 <yuu[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.13/docs/XMonad-Layout-Tabbed.html
01:57:34 <yuu[m]> * this one for tabbed works well?
01:57:34 <yuu[m]> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.13/docs/XMonad-Layout-Tabbed.html
01:59:33 <geekosaur> yes
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02:08:42 <yuu[m]> thank you! how much haskell one's need to know to setup xmonad? basic, intermediate?
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02:10:58 <geekosaur> intermediate is helpful, but there are usually people around in here who can help with getting a config working
02:11:18 <geekosaur> (but I'm going to bed shortly and I'm not sure anyone else will be around at this time of day/night)
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02:21:11 <yuu[m]> i ill learn some haskell before starting to set it up then. thank you!
03:29:51 <electr0n> yuu[m]: I was able to use the error messages to correct my mistakes, I knew nothing about haskell when starting off. Of course I used an existing config to then tailor to my needs.
03:40:05 <jakefromstatefar> ^ same, I recommend DTs config
03:40:38 <jakefromstatefar> distrotube/derek taylor, you can find him on gitlab: https://gitlab.com/dwt1/dotfiles/-/tree/master/.xmonad
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09:17:03 <mc47[m]> I wouldn't recommend it to start with, maybe check out our tutorial first, and go back there to add what's missing
09:17:28 <mc47[m]> It helps a bit if you see how you can start from an empty config
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17:15:14 <backleet> I noticed there's a lag in workspace indicators when changing workspaces using polybar in my core 2 duo laptop, with i5 2nd gen laptop it's not noticable, I am guessing it's because xmonad has to write to temp log for polybar to read workspace data?
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17:15:27 <backleet> with xmobar there is ipc?
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17:19:10 <geekosaur> it writes state down a pipe to xmobar
17:19:23 <geekosaur> I don't know how you're feeding polybar
17:20:11 <mc47> I guess through EWMH
17:20:14 <geekosaur> it may be using ewmh which will be slower as it's collecting data from multiple X11 propereties
17:25:32 <backleet> geekosaur: mc47 yes with ewmh, I had code in my xmonad config writing xmonad workspace data to log file, I guess I don't need it anymore
17:28:51 <mc47> I'm not sure where the delay could come from
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17:33:24 <backleet> mc47: maybe it was when I used the script option in polybar + appending to log file, don't remember exactly
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17:42:58 <backleet> mc47: is there way to manage polybar better with xmonad, right now I'm launching it outside of xmonad, thus Mod+b/avoidStruts/window goes under polybar when fullscreening
17:43:55 <mc47> I mean it shouldn't matter much from where you launch it
17:44:26 <mc47> If you're applying docks to your config and avoidStruts to the layout, shouldn't it just work?
17:44:48 <backleet> mc47: let me see, my config is a mess
17:47:37 <mc47> I haven't used polybar with xmonad yet, so I wouldn't know if it needs some special trickery
17:49:08 <backleet> mc47: yeah forgot avoidStruts for some reason, full screen work, it just doesn't hide polybar when doing Mod+b, sendMessage ToggleStruts doesn't work on it, will have to do it manually
17:49:37 <Solid> nova: you're welcome :)
17:52:32 <liskin> doesn't work as in windows don't move or as in windows move a bit but polybar is still on top?
17:52:55 <liskin> if the latter, then polybar might need to be lowered
17:53:23 <liskin> this seems like something that might need a bit of docs that we can refer people to
17:53:58 <backleet> liskin: windows move, but polybar is still on top
17:54:52 <backleet> liskin: I mean windows move and polybar on bottom, just need to toggle polybar/hide it
17:55:31 <liskin> backleet: oh, I didn't know polybar can hide itself, although it makes sense that it might
17:55:32 <backleet> liskin: it works ok on fullscreen window, but when gaps you can see the bar, I will look around thanks!
17:55:56 <liskin> xmonad's toggling of struts isn't meant to hide the bar really
17:56:29 <liskin> it just ignores it for a while, and if it happens to be on the bottom of the window stack, it also gets obscured by the windows
17:57:15 <backleet> liskin: I see thanks!, but xmobar actually toggles (not visible at all)
17:59:02 <liskin> backleet: xmobar lowers itself by default
17:59:21 <liskin> if you don't have gaps between windows, then being obscured looks the same as being hidden
18:00:32 <backleet> liskin: polybar lowers itself too but visible under windows when there are gaps, with xmobar, it's completely gone from the screen not just lowering.
18:01:02 <backleet> gotta go thanks!
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18:10:57 <liskin> with the default struts toggling? how would that work?
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21:29:06 <liskin> geekosaur: I requested it for you now
21:29:13 <geekosaur> thank you
21:29:44 <liskin> we'll see if sunday evenings mean anything to ircops
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21:34:25 <liskin> apparently not
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21:35:38 <geekosaur> I'll live
21:37:09 <liskin> no; you got your cloak all right
21:37:57 <liskin> what I meant was that they're not observing the do nothing sunday
21:45:02 <geekosaur> oh, heh, I was looking for the notification, my client hid it in the server tab and didn't highlight it
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