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Logs on 2021-06-14 (liberachat/#xmonad)

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08:41:59 <tsujp> if im on workspace 2 and I have firefox already open on workspace 1 how can I snap to firefox? can I use dmenu or gmrun to "snap" to firefox? i.e. take me to workspace 1 and focus firefox
08:42:10 <tsujp> basically I want go "go to an already running instance of a program from anywhere"
08:42:42 <tsujp> Is it WindowGo?
08:43:22 <Solid> liskin: our location on twitter still says `#xmonad @ freenode`
08:43:51 <Solid> tsujp: there is X.P.Window
08:44:31 <tsujp> What's that? Cannot see it in the docs
08:44:41 <tsujp> Solid
08:44:53 <Solid> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Window.html
08:45:15 <tsujp> Lovely, thanks :)
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08:48:26 <liskin> Solid: well spotted, fixed
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09:10:35 <backleet> how to fix
09:10:47 <backleet> It is a member of the hidden package 'utf8-string'
09:15:26 <backleet> ghc-pkg expose utf8-string says cannot find package utf8-string
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11:28:12 <tsujp> Hi friends I'm confused by this error, what am I doing wrong here? http://ix.io/3pVv
11:28:23 <tsujp> I've installed xmonad and just want to launch to verify it works but I get this
11:33:35 <tsujp> Hang on I should be doing this via X not manually derp
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14:43:58 <Solid> https://www.libhunt.com/l/haskell/trending
14:44:57 <Solid> we're number 6 on this seemingly very biased list of trending haskell projects
14:45:03 <Solid> so yay (?)
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15:11:47 <mc47> that's cool
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15:45:22 <Solid> hahahahahahaha
15:45:29 <Solid> man I love stuff like this
15:45:42 <Solid> #560 is a really funny issue
15:46:31 <Solid> the tl;dr is that due to MonomorphismRestriction the inferred types of `desktopLayoutModifiers = avoidStruts` and `desktopLayoutModifiers layout = avoidStruts layout` are different and when we hlinted that it introduced funny behaviour because no type signatures
15:50:08 <mc47> til
15:50:26 <mc47> that file definitely needs an update though
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16:09:02 <tsujp> can xmonad set the key repeat rate and sensitivity or do I have to do that via xset rate ?
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16:21:28 <Solid> tsujp: you'll have to do that via xset
16:24:09 <tsujp> xset isn't working via my method of launching xmonad Solid, here's my (extremely simple) xinitrc: http://ix.io/3pX1
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16:26:23 <tsujp> Spelling error even with correct `xmonad` spelling it still doesn't work
16:26:27 <tsujp> pidof xmonad returns nothing
16:27:16 <tsujp> oh duh because it's xmonad-x86_64-linux derp lemme try this instead
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16:28:07 <tsujp> now it works, excuse me I was being a dumb dumb
16:28:22 <Solid> ah don't worry about it :)
16:30:31 <Solid> mc47: it does yes
16:30:41 <Solid> my gut feeling would be to just include the file we build up in the tutorial
16:30:47 <Solid> with some additional comments
16:31:43 <mc47> I mean, do we need it?
16:31:57 <mc47> I'd argue we'd do better without it
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16:41:09 <Solid> mh perhaps that is true
16:41:11 <Solid> I'm not sure
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16:59:08 <backleet> "Could not load module ‘Codec.Binary.UTF8.String’ It is a member of the hidden package ‘utf8-string-1.0.2’. You can run ‘:set -package utf8-string’ to expose it."
16:59:10 <backleet> how to fix this
16:59:38 <backleet> utf8-string is installed
17:00:28 <dminuoso> backleet: How do you build xmonad?
17:00:34 <backleet> dminuoso: with xmonad --recompile
17:00:45 <dminuoso> backleet: How did you install utf8-string?
17:01:06 <backleet> dminuoso: didn't install it explicitly, probably a dep for another package?
17:02:42 <dminuoso> backleet: Asked differently, how did you install xmonad?
17:03:06 <backleet> dminuoso: oh, with cabal install xmonad --lib I think?
17:03:24 <dminuoso> Then also run `cabal install --lib utf-8string` and hope things dont break. :)
17:04:21 <backleet> it says rejecting ghc etc, can't resolve dependencies or something
17:04:29 <dminuoso> Yeah I almost assumed as much
17:05:01 <backleet> so need newer ghc?
17:05:17 <dminuoso> Can you share the full output?
17:05:28 <dminuoso> And no, the problem has to do with the way you're (mis)using cabal.
17:05:55 <backleet> dminuoso: I don't understand cabal, haskell lol just copy paste stuff until it works haha
17:06:09 <dminuoso> backleet: It's all fine. Just share the full output you got from the last command.
17:06:44 <dminuoso> Modern `cabal` is designed to facilitate building isolated projects. You can roughly compare it with say `virtualenv` or maybe `yarn`.
17:06:58 <backleet> https://dpaste.com/5YZPYVR24
17:07:17 <dminuoso> Normally you have a file declaring dependencies. But outside a project, there's this weird bizarre global implicit project, and incrementally adding dependencies will quickly lead to unresolvable build plans
17:07:39 <dminuoso> (Because rather than finding a build plan that satisfies multiple packages, each installed version leads to more fixed constraints)
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17:09:55 <backleet> dminuoso: I don't understand most of what you said, way over my head lol, is there reason why there's no practical way to uninstall cabal packages?
17:09:57 <dminuoso> It seems like you upgraded ghc at some point, is that right?
17:10:15 <dminuoso> backleet: because this "global project" is not really its main mode of operation.
17:10:18 <backleet> dminuoso: not explicitly, maybe through distro's package manager (regular updates? rolling release)
17:10:24 <dminuoso> Yeah, it's probably
17:10:33 <dminuoso> Just nuke your cabal store
17:11:09 <Solid> we need to purge every mention of people saying to use `cabal install --lib xmonad` from the web
17:11:21 <dminuoso> +1
17:11:30 <dminuoso> Or just `cabal install` at all
17:12:09 <dminuoso> backleet: just delete the entirety of your ~/.cabal I say
17:12:19 <dminuoso> That's easier than going through the gory details
17:12:30 <dminuoso> Or should ~/.ghc deleted be too?
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17:12:36 <dminuoso> Im not sure. Delete both for good measure. :-)
17:12:45 <Solid> :D
17:13:16 <dminuoso> backleet: ^- I'm not kidding by the way. There's probably a more precise way, but if you want the simple "give me a damn command solution", that's it.
17:13:23 <Solid> backleet: if your distro doesn't package xmonad or you want to install a newer version, I'd recommend installing via a stack project as per the install instructions ( https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/INSTALL.md )
17:15:09 <dminuoso> backleet: Normally `cabal` is for building projects, so each project would have a `foo.cabal` file declaring its build dependencies. And then you just run `cabal build`, it would automatically grab dependencies for this project in isolation behind the scenes (avoiding dependency hell), there's no way to "install/uninstall" dependencies anymore
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17:16:58 <backleet> I got disconnected dminuoso, did you write anything?
17:17:02 <dminuoso> xmonad is an odd candidate, because it requires this full compilation process. The proper way to fit this together is to have a my-xmonad project with a my-xmonad.cabal file, which declares the dependencies on xmonad, utf8-string and whatever else you want. This approach can be done, but it takes some minor additional work to play nice
17:17:20 <dminuoso> backleet: https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/9ba01b6d0d6722fdfb6a9212a035d861
17:18:00 <Solid> (there's a channel logger available at https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad )
17:18:08 <dminuoso> Stack is an alternate solution to all of this, which has the benefit of being documented
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17:18:41 <backleet> Solid: thanks!
17:19:23 <backleet> dminuoso: hmm, what do you think of the polybar issue? what is the best way to connect it to xmonad? Dbus, log file or ewmh?
17:19:45 <dminuoso> What issue?
17:20:46 <backleet> dminuoso: oh man, I wrote, but I guess it didn't go through since I got disconnected.
17:20:55 <backleet> dminuoso: will try that, thanks! When using Xmonad + polybar will there be difference between │ burp
17:20:57 <backleet> │ | logging workspace+layout data to file then reading it from polybar vs connecting to polybar │ By_JumperX4[m]
17:20:59 <backleet> │ | through DBUS from xmonad code?
17:21:06 <backleet> sorry
17:21:13 <dminuoso> backleet: xmonad and dbus wont work well together out of the box
17:21:19 <By_JumperX4[m]> wat
17:21:48 <Solid> By_JumperX4[m]: accidental highlight :)
17:21:48 <dminuoso> the main loop sleeps on XNextEvent(), so..
17:22:08 <Solid> dminuoso: there is xmonad-log which enables this
17:22:16 <Solid> many people use it with polybar afaik
17:22:16 <dminuoso> sounds like black magic.
17:22:33 <dminuoso> is xmonad-log a fork with a modified main loop?
17:22:38 <Solid> or xmonad-dbus? I forget
17:23:05 <dminuoso> Ahh, xmonad-log is a standalone solution I see.
17:23:05 <Solid> dminuoso: no it just starts a separate dbus session outside of xmonad
17:23:10 <dminuoso> Solid: Gotcha!
17:23:17 <Solid> you have a whole xmonad.hs to play with, afterall :)
17:23:28 <Solid> ah yes, I think xmonad-dbus is a rewrite of xmonad-log in haskell or something
17:23:32 dminuoso is evil and glues all kinds of things into his xmonad
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17:24:04 <dminuoso> I have confidence in GHCs ability to correctly elaborate my programs into core. So I dont mind if it runs yesod.
17:24:10 <dminuoso> </sarcasm>
17:24:12 <Solid> :>
17:24:38 <Solid> backleet: writing to a file via pipes has the same issues that pipes usually have, if it fills up (when polybar stops reading from it) then xmonad could appear to freeze
17:24:57 <Solid> dbus sounds like the more sensible solution, although it requires more setup
17:25:35 <Solid> if polybar could read from X11 properties then that would be even better, as that's very well integrated into xmonad-contrib at this point
17:27:09 <dminuoso> I mean heck, some people use emacs as their window manager. No reason I couldn't run yi directly from my xmonad.
17:27:35 <dminuoso> That sounds evil, and perhaps like a hackathon project for this weekends zurihac
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17:29:14 <Solid> is yi still alive?
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17:29:40 <backleet> dminuoso: Solid I found someones code implementing Dbus solution, ewmh works well for workspaces, but will have to output the rest of the data separately (layout mode), logging data to file then reading from polybar with tail -F has speed issues I think?
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17:30:12 <dminuoso> tail is extremely efficiently implemented
17:31:50 <backleet> dminuoso: I noticed lag in visuals when logging workspace data to file in older laptop
17:33:10 <backleet> https://github.com/gvolpe/nix-config/blob/master/home/programs/xmonad/config.hs
17:34:00 <backleet> Solid: will using Dbus method make workspaces clickable?
17:36:13 <Solid> backleet: I don't believe it would do that by default
17:36:24 <Solid> though I certainly think you _can_ make them clickable even via dbus
17:36:57 <Solid> at least X.U.ClickableWorkspaces only modifies the PP record (which is something you still have)
17:37:19 <Solid> (I have never used the above module, nor polybar, nor dbus, so no guarantees :))
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17:41:10 <backleet> thanks Solid dminuoso
17:45:25 <backleet> Solid: do yo use xmobar? is it possible to make elements in it clickable for ex. wifi icon etc. Main reason I'm switching to polybar
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18:19:30 <Solid> ?tell backleet I do use xmobar yes. I don't think what you want is (easily) possible with xmobar, no, so you are probably better off just using polybar
18:19:30 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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18:58:24 <liskin> dminuoso: will you be at zurihac?
18:59:30 <liskin> (I still don't know about myself, there's been awfully little information about the hackathon part of it so I may as well just prioritize my vacation instead.)
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19:45:36 <dminuoso> liskin: As far as current plans go, yes.
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