Logs on 2021-08-23 (liberachat/#xmonad)
| 00:32:49 | <elonsroadster[m]> | liskin I went the git blame route. Seems like it happened as part of the rewrite but there was no discussion about the deprecations. |
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| 05:36:32 | <Solid> | elonsroadster[m]: I'm almost convinced the module just needs actual documentation in order to be less of a clusterfuck |
| 05:36:42 | <Solid> | but it's true that the decision to deprecate these functions is very weird |
| 05:37:08 | <Solid> | especially since in other modules we explicitly do provide some of these "here is a function that contains some sane defaults if you want to do X" type functions |
| 05:46:08 | <elonsroadster[m]> | <Solid> "elonsroadster: I'm almost..." <- Sure, but lack of documentation is not a justification for deprecating a function |
| 05:46:36 | <Solid> | nono, definitely not |
| 05:47:05 | <elonsroadster[m]> | I mean the suggestion to use `spacingRaw` is asinine. Not everyone wants to learn the details of how that module is implemented, and the vast majority of people are going to be happy with a uniform border. |
| 05:47:22 | <Solid> | to me #243 reads like all of these functions were simply removed in the first version and after LSLeary noted that simply breaking user configs was bad they were added back in in a deprecated form |
| 05:47:58 | <Solid> | oh there's even commits for that, it wasn't squashed |
| 06:08:07 | <Solid> | well, nothing's stopping us from undeprecating these and writing proper docs I suppose |
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| 20:42:46 | <Tisoxin> | themc47: hi |
| 20:44:29 | <Tisoxin> | (i wanted to speak to you about #593) |
| 20:50:36 | <mc47> | Tisoxin hey! I'm not around, you can write to me and I'll check it later |
| 20:50:41 | <mc47> | or on github |
| 20:54:37 | <Tisoxin> | Well, with a normall 1.16 config, xmonad just restarts the bar when i reload it with `M-q` doesn't it? (With a standard `main = xmonad $ myConf' =<< spawnPipe "xmobar"` config) |
| 20:55:45 | <geekosaur> | xmonad doesn't restart it, xmonad just goes away so the bar sees EOF and exits |
| 20:56:25 | <Tisoxin> | but xmobar somehow starts again after that, doesn't it? |
| 20:56:43 | <geekosaur> | the spawnPipe reruns when xmonad is restarted, yes |
| 21:03:06 | <Tisoxin> | Well, with X.H.StatusBar XMonad doesn't seem to start the bars by itself |
| 21:04:02 | <Tisoxin> | I have to manually execute `xmobar -x 0 $HOME/.config/xmobar/xmobarrc0` and `xmobar -x 1 $HOME/.config/xmobar/xmobarrc1` |
| 21:05:07 | <geekosaur> | I saw that but I really don't know much about the new stuff; I have to use the old becausse I use xmonad-log-applet |
| 21:45:53 | <mc47> | that's weird, can you provide your config? |
| 21:46:51 | <mc47> | either something is wrong or the documentation isn't clear enough |
| 21:47:23 | <mc47> | I remember that I ran xmobar with stdin logging for at least 2 or three weeks, and it was working fine |
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| 22:51:49 | Tisoxin | sent a code block: https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/f494e871d2c1dfc908f56fc219f807106d8b1fa5 |
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| 22:52:23 | <Tisoxin> | mc47: i think everything important should be in this config snippet |
| 22:53:55 | <Tisoxin> | * ```... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e437dd3aadd9dbaf34f34a9d80aff553bcd96068) |
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| 23:27:57 | <dminuoso> | Hi. The middle mouse click, how does that actually cause text to appear in a given window? |
| 23:28:42 | <geekosaur> | selections are complicated |
| 23:29:53 | <geekosaur> | the program has to recognize some kind of "get the current selection" request (middle click, ctrl-insert, etc.), then negotiate with the holder of the current selection to agree on a type for it |
| 23:30:18 | <geekosaur> | then transfer the result, which it's up to the program to insert |
| 23:32:25 | <dminuoso> | I see. So if I middle clicked on a terminal, it's actually just the terminal that sets KeyPressMask in the event mask, and then interpreted the middle mouse click as a request to get XA_PRIMARY |
| 23:32:34 | <dminuoso> | Is this about right? |
| 23:33:20 | <geekosaur> | yes, roughly |
| 23:34:00 | <dminuoso> | Cheers, that's helpful. |
| 23:35:26 | <dminuoso> | Oh, and that'd be Button*Mask, for some suitable number Id have to look up. |
| 23:35:33 | <dminuoso> | Rather than KeyPressMask |
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