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| 00:01:00 | <abhixec> | thanks! |
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| 05:51:42 | <electr0n> | abhixec: https://blog.realogs.in/a-more-practical-beginning-to-haskell/ |
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| 16:36:09 | <rarelyafk> | i asked a few days ago, does anyone have a good solution for alt+tab behavior *between* workspaces, in other words, always goint to the most recently focused window in the stack |
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| 17:11:45 | <themc47> | isn't there a contrib module that does that? |
| 17:16:40 | <geekosaur> | there's a contrib that goes between workspaces (not windows in workspaces) and one which goes between windows on the current wokspace |
| 17:16:56 | <geekosaur> | I think one could be built fairly easily but there isn't one yet |
| 17:50:24 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Hey guys, been messing around with the new git version of XMonad and XMonad-Contrib in a VM, and I love it, so much more things are possible with the new loggers etc.. But I have one question, how would I make the logTitles logger which is in ppExtras respond to a click?? I want to make it so that when I click on it with the left mouse button, it will switch to the unfocused window?? Would I use some sort of escape? |
| 17:51:37 | <geekosaur> | that depends on what you're logging it to |
| 17:51:52 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | XMobar |
| 17:52:06 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Using X properties, not StDinreader |
| 17:52:23 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Would I use xmobarAction ? |
| 17:52:26 | <geekosaur> | if you're sending it to xmobar there's an escape you can use to specify a command to run; that command would presumably be wmctrl |
| 17:52:30 | <geekosaur> | yes |
| 17:52:44 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Oh k nice |
| 17:53:11 | <geekosaur> | you might also need to modify the logger to capture the window ID so you can send it to wmctrl; you coyuld specify it by the title but it'll be somewhat unreliable |
| 17:56:14 | <liskin> | for a specific example of a clickable window titles, see https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/b89803e15b5e384b7586551c6b8657b0861ceda8/.xmonad/XMonad/Util/My.hs#L142 and https://github.com/liskin/dotfiles/blob/b89803e15b5e384b7586551c6b8657b0861ceda8/.xmonad/xmonad.hs#L397 |
| 17:57:18 | <abhixec> | electr0n: Thanks will check that out! I got PIH(Graham Hutton) and reading it now :) |
| 17:57:37 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | liskin: nice, thank you I will look at these aswell |
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| 19:16:55 | <jakefromstatefar> | What type should I set my layoutHook to? I'm trying to do `layoutHook = foldr1 (|||) $ [layouts here] <> [layouts here] <> [layouts here]`, but it keeps giving me a wall of different type mismatchings... |
| 19:17:19 | <geekosaur> | yeh, types are really difficult for layoutHooks |
| 19:17:39 | <jakefromstatefar> | Is there any solution though? |
| 19:17:43 | <geekosaur> | LayoutClass l => l Window |
| 19:17:47 | <geekosaur> | may work |
| 19:17:49 | <jakefromstatefar> | Not giving it one doesn't work in this case |
| 19:18:14 | <geekosaur> | but depending on what's going on it may not be specific enough and then you can't use e.g. foldr1 at all |
| 19:18:51 | <jakefromstatefar> | Is there any mapping function that would work here? |
| 19:19:00 | <geekosaur> | not really |
| 19:19:22 | <geekosaur> | there are too many existential games being played behind the scenes with layoutHooks |
| 19:19:38 | <jakefromstatefar> | ack |
| 19:21:37 | <jakefromstatefar> | Also, that type didn't work: `Expecting one more argument to 'LayoutClass l' Expected a constraint, but 'LayoutClass l' has kind '* -> Constraint' • In the type signature: 'af :: [LayoutClass l => l Window]'` |
| 19:21:56 | <jakefromstatefar> | Did the []'s break it? |
| 19:23:30 | <geekosaur> | hm |
| 19:23:45 | <geekosaur> | the [] will break it later but I thought I remembered how that worked, sorry |
| 19:24:05 | <jakefromstatefar> | I'll try converting it to a chain with `|||`, rather than a list, then maybe it'll work |
| 19:26:41 | <geekosaur> | LayoutClass l a => l Window, maybe |
| 19:26:56 | <geekosaur> | but again you can't use that in a list, so it doesn't really matter |
| 19:27:10 | <geekosaur> | you'd have to wrap it in a newtype but thne that'd break everything else |
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| 19:45:21 | <jakefromstatefar> | Now I'm getting an error: `Data constructor not in scope: Dwindle` `Perhaps you want to add Dwindle to the import list in the import of 'XMonad.Layout.Dwindle'` |
| 19:45:41 | <jakefromstatefar> | Funny thing is, my import of that module is: `import XMonad.Layout.Dwindle (Dwindle, Chirality(CW))` |
| 19:46:06 | <jakefromstatefar> | I have two other imports behaving this way. |
| 19:46:08 | <jakefromstatefar> | Why? |
| 19:46:29 | <geekosaur> | because you only imported the type constructor |
| 19:46:34 | <geekosaur> | try Dwindle(..) |
| 19:46:55 | <jakefromstatefar> | Ahh.. Thanks. |
| 19:47:09 | <geekosaur> | or Dwindle(Dwindle) if you only want the onbe and not all three |
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| 19:52:33 | <jakefromstatefar> | OK, well now that all the import problems are gone, there's this type issue: [error](https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/c62d6eb2) [file](https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/7aca2b94). |
| 19:52:48 | <jakefromstatefar> | Adding that type you gave me gave the same error |
| 19:53:35 | <jakefromstatefar> | there're two links, just realized how unclear that is... |
| 19:53:38 | <geekosaur> | right, I was afraid that would happen. I think you can't really get away with anything but full types, which will prevent you from making a list of them |
| 19:53:51 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I understood the links |
| 19:54:13 | <jakefromstatefar> | I didn't make a list, I made a long chain of them joined by `|||`. Unless that's what you're referring to. |
| 19:54:31 | <geekosaur> | also fully specified layoutHook types are messy and nasty; I just let them be inferred |
| 19:54:49 | <geekosaur> | even though normally I prefer specifying types |
| 19:55:16 | <jakefromstatefar> | I get that. |
| 19:55:56 | <jakefromstatefar> | I stopped typing about half my xmonad config because it got tedious to maintain. In my config, I only type something when it breaks without it. |
| 19:56:18 | <jakefromstatefar> | Probably not the best habit... But it's saved me time |
| 19:56:20 | <jakefromstatefar> | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 19:57:53 | <geekosaur> | there's also that you're often just restating the layoutHook itself, often morer verbosely |
| 19:58:22 | <geekosaur> | since the layoutHook is usually a chain of data constructors (or simple wrappers thereof) |
| 20:02:47 | <jakefromstatefar> | Yeah |
| 20:03:18 | <jakefromstatefar> | After reading those long errors closer, I was able to resolve most of them by fixing some declarations. Turns out I'd missed a few arguments here and there. |
| 20:03:34 | <jakefromstatefar> | Those example docs probably need some updating in that regard. |
| 20:04:12 | <geekosaur> | possibly |
| 20:05:03 | <jakefromstatefar> | Since I've made all the examples work (all but 1, so far) maybe I could update them. That would be one heck of a script to write, or a lot of time though... |
| 20:05:22 | <geekosaur> | actually if you mean docs in the module haddocks themselves, then by all means report bugs for the ones that are wrong |
| 20:05:39 | <jakefromstatefar> | I do mean the haddocks. |
| 20:07:27 | <geekosaur> | also if you think any of them could be clarified, report those too (possibly with matching PRs) |
| 20:07:59 | <geekosaur> | some of them, especially the earlier ones, assume the user is well versed in Haskell and/or Unix |
| 20:08:19 | <geekosaur> | but that hasn't been true of the xmonad community in general since 0.4ish |
| 20:08:41 | <jakefromstatefar> | Yeah. Turns out the module exported its own `Tall`, I had to qualify the import, and pull it that way. |
| 20:08:49 | <jakefromstatefar> | But, it compiled! |
| 20:08:59 | <jakefromstatefar> | So, I can start mucking with the screenshots now. |
| 20:10:16 | <jakefromstatefar> | Oh dear... I think I just ran into the black screen bug. |
| 20:10:52 | <jakefromstatefar> | On a secondary TTY, I fired it up, after 3s of just sitting there, not accepting input or showing the mouse, it went completely black. |
| 20:10:57 | <jakefromstatefar> | My other session's fine though. |
| 20:11:23 | <geekosaur> | check stderr, wherever it's going/being logged, for exception output; that often means it defaulted to Full |
| 20:11:40 | <geekosaur> | which is all it can do if the layout causes an exception |
| 20:17:08 | <jakefromstatefar> | The last ~200 lines of the log: https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/d042e93f |
| 20:17:55 | <jakefromstatefar> | That was from my Xorg log, my stderr had the errors it usually does. It loves to complain about missing keymaps, but it works fine. |
| 20:19:30 | <geekosaur> | I needed the stderr, not xorg, but I do fild the nvidia permissions stuff at the end suspicious |
| 20:19:49 | <geekosaur> | and that could also lead to a black screen just because the display buffer is too confused to display at all |
| 20:20:42 | <geekosaur> | I don't have any nvidia-based stuff here so I never bothered to learn about it and don't know what would cause the permissions error |
| 20:22:00 | <geekosaur> | mm, come to think of it an exception in the layout might not get reported usefully, might need to set GHCRTS=-xc in the environment before running xmonad |
| 20:24:24 | <jakefromstatefar> | Hm, turns out I had an alacritty flag wrong, so my terminal wasn't showing up. But, whenever I try to change windows, my xmobar disappears. |
| 20:24:38 | <jakefromstatefar> | So, not the black screen bug, false alarm. But still a strange occurance. |
| 20:25:08 | <geekosaur> | do you have avoidStruts in the right place? |
| 20:25:16 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
| 20:25:16 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
| 20:25:45 | <jakefromstatefar> | I don't have it at all yet, but, even after removing the windows, or floating them and moving them... It's still gone. |
| 20:26:10 | <geekosaur> | ok, that sounds weird |
| 20:26:21 | <jakefromstatefar> | If I start it manually it's fine. |
| 20:26:36 | <geekosaur> | unless you are also missing manageDocks and then xmobar will behave oddly at best |
| 20:26:54 | <jakefromstatefar> | nope, vanilla docks behavior in this config |
| 20:36:46 | <jakefromstatefar> | Oh, misconfigured loghook. |
| 20:36:54 | <jakefromstatefar> | weird behavior for that though... |
| 20:39:27 | <geekosaur> | if the behavior expresses as an exception you quietly get the Full layout (actually the no-layout default; layout Full is literally instance LayoutClass Full where {}) |
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| 21:26:48 | <Nosrep> | if anyone uses dzen2 here |
| 21:26:57 | <Nosrep> | echo "^p(_LEFT)test" | dzen2 -p <- why doesn't this left align |
| 21:44:33 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Hey everyone, can someone link me to the deprecations page, I forgot where it was... |
| 21:45:17 | <geekosaur> | it's part of https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/CHANGES.md |
| 21:49:12 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | geekosaur: nice, thanks |
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| 22:16:25 | <jakefromstatefar> | https://github.com/mikenrafter/xmonad-layout-screenshots :) |
| 22:23:18 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | wow |
| 22:23:27 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | A lot of dedication went into that lol |
| 22:24:29 | <geekosaur> | a lot of scripting, I think |
| 22:29:34 | <liskin> | jakefromstatefar: nice! |
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| 22:30:01 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | liskin: are they going on the website? |
| 22:31:27 | <liskin> | FOSSHuman[m]: I think they were meant for the documentation but having a layout gallery on the website is a brilliant idea, too |
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