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07:23:07 <Jazzah> indeed, making an ifTaller seems like the way to go. gotta try to dig enough haskell to do that
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07:48:33 <liskin> There's an open PR for a generic conditional layout somewhere in contrib. Unfortunately a bit lacking in docs at this point
07:49:16 <liskin> Actually not just a conditional layout, a conditional layout modifier, too, which is much better for this usecase
08:11:36 <Solid> (probably not going to make it into the release, but feel free to apply the patch)
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08:17:23 <Solid> liskin: I remember you saying that you had some ideas for #605, right? This is something that I think we should definitely include in 0.17
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08:17:41 <Solid> (if you don't have the time it's fine; imo it's good enough to merge in its current state)
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08:46:47 <liskin> Solid: yes I have some code that needs like an hour or two of work
08:47:28 <liskin> Agree that we should aim to include this in the release
08:47:43 <liskin> Can you ping me tomorrow pls?
08:48:31 <Solid> sure
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09:29:51 <FOSSHuman[m]> Hello everyone, I have a question, I use statusBarGeneric to launch stalonetray in my setup and I wonder where spawnStatusBar and killStatusBar are to be used with it... I don't use either and just did: `statusBarGeneric "stalonetray" (mempty)` and it seems to work, is spawnStatusBar and killStatusBar needed for statusBarGeneric???
09:29:58 <FOSSHuman[m]> s/did/used/
09:30:12 <FOSSHuman[m]> s/did/used/, s/work/kill and launch stalonetray/
09:30:52 <FOSSHuman[m]> Nvm just looked at the source and it looks like statusBarGeneric kills the statusbar using the string that is supplied..
09:31:14 <FOSSHuman[m]> * statusBarGeneric kills and spawns the statusbar
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09:41:04 <Solid> indeed
09:41:21 <Solid> maybe it's worth emphasizing it more that a normal user doesn't really have to touch these helper functions at all
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15:18:46 <jakefromstatefar> https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/a293fb47 - is there a better way to do this? And, how should I go about creating a third fallback, with predefined variables?
15:19:39 <jakefromstatefar> fcs = ... and bcs = ... aren't particularly relevant here, don't worry about those.
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15:42:44 <Solid> which part, exactly?
15:43:11 <Solid> I suppose you could use alternatives for wm{b,f}c
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16:26:49 <Solid> r.e. the logo contest; what do we think a good system would be?
16:27:21 <Solid> I think a public vote would be great, but I fear we might run into boaty-mc-boatface type situations
16:27:26 <Solid> (or worse)
16:28:09 <liskin> We need a committee! :-D
16:28:16 <Solid> x)
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16:33:48 <alternateved> I am not sure how open are you to that idea and how much of xmonad community uses reddit, but you might think of announcing the contest on reddit
16:34:33 <alternateved> Like, encourage people to send the logo propositions as reddit posts on xmonad subbreddit and decide by a number of upvotes
16:35:01 <alternateved> But this would put the the case in people
16:35:39 <Solid> if we do this publicly I was more thinking a github issue with one post per submission
16:36:23 <alternateved> Yeah, that might be better
16:37:03 <alternateved> And less random I presume
16:47:45 <jakefromstatefar> <Solid> "which part, exactly?" <- The logic shown in there is as follows: `if .cache/.../colors then .cache/.../colors otherwise if ./colors then ./colors else [predefined,colors]`
16:48:57 <geekosaur> this is a good use case for monadic Maybe
16:49:34 <jakefromstatefar> But, I don't have that last if statement in the paste I provided.
16:53:42 <Solid> For this specific example, perhaps something like http://ix.io/3BKg/haskell would work
17:16:30 <liskin> Solid: we can enable discussions on Github perhaps, make a category for the logos
17:18:22 <jakefromstatefar> Where do I import `<|>` from?
17:19:24 <alternateved> XMonad.Prelude?
17:19:25 <Solid> liskin: oh that's a neat idea!
17:19:30 <Solid> Control.Applicative
17:19:37 <Solid> or XMonad.Prelude, yes
17:19:54 <Solid> jakefromstatefar: for cases like this hoogle is great: https://hoogle.haskell.org/?hoogle=%3C%7C%3E
17:21:03 <jakefromstatefar> I used hoogle, but it gave me a bunch of general things, none of which were for xmonad.
17:21:15 <jakefromstatefar> Perhaps I should've used my local git version...
17:29:29 <Solid> XMonad.Prelude just re-exports Control.Applicative.(<|>)
17:29:35 <Solid> so it's not xmonad specific at all
17:30:59 <liskin> https://x0.at/OqnK.png
17:31:14 <liskin> That's a nice number!
17:35:07 <Solid> :D
17:35:11 <Solid> very nice
17:49:29 <FOSSHuman[m]> https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/issues/239
17:49:43 <FOSSHuman[m]> Useful script for XMobar
17:50:31 <FOSSHuman[m]> <liskin> "https://x0.at/OqnK.png" <- Very nice! This project deserves sponsors
17:51:18 <geekosaur> not bad
17:51:25 <geekosaur> now, can we keep it up?
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17:53:31 <liskin> We'll see. From what tbabej told me, some cancellations are expected, so we'll need to make up for it by working on acquiring new sponsors here and there.
17:54:18 <liskin> And it's also compensated by one-off donations, which there were lots as well. If GitHub was right (and it isn't), we'd be over $1k in balance by the next payout.
17:55:05 <liskin> Realistically we might have like $700 to spend in our collective by the end of October.
17:57:03 <alternateved> In that situation, the more people know about it, the better
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17:59:21 <liskin> Yes and no. People don't really like to be spammed with requests for money, so the ideal strategy is to tell everyone exactly at the moment they're ready and willing to donate.
17:59:27 <liskin> Which is obviously impossible.
18:00:13 <alternateved> I was more thinking about some forms of showing what could you do with xmonad
18:00:25 <liskin> Oh I see
18:01:03 <alternateved> The more people appreciate it the more of them will be willing to check how they could help
18:02:41 <alternateved> But this is obvious I guess
18:03:00 <liskin> Certainly, if we were able to write interesting blog posts showing off new (and old) features, demoing configuration snippets, talking about different workflow, etc., that would be good PR
18:03:21 <FOSSHuman[m]> https://xmonad.org/posts.html
18:03:26 <FOSSHuman[m]> ??
18:03:37 <liskin> Indeed, we do have the infrastructure for that now
18:04:08 <liskin> Probably nobody subscribes to the RSS feed, but we have a place to publish them, and we have reddit and twitter to announce them.
18:04:15 <liskin> Now we just need someone to write them :-)
18:04:33 <alternateved> Yeah, exactly that. Some videos showing off what xmonad could do would be also great
18:05:12 <alternateved> For example, there is not a lot of this stuff on YouTube - and a lot of newcomers would check there first
18:05:54 <alternateved> You might also consider contacting the Distrotube guy about your new release
18:06:28 <alternateved> He's got some audience, so he could promote you a bit in that time
18:07:23 <liskin> We can do guest posts, and I would have no trouble paying some rewards for those. (Although there's obviously the little problem that someone might do a subpar post just for the money, just as people do shitoberfest PRs just for t-shirts. Absolutely no idea how to deal with this in a fair way. But if someone's fine with writing a post just for the fun of it and if it's any good then having it
18:07:25 <liskin> posted on our website with some bonus payout, that's super easy to do.)
18:08:45 <alternateved> I might consider doing something like that
18:08:57 <liskin> (I mean, we can also ignore the problem altogether. xmonad is a niche little project in a niche little Haskell community. Ignoring problems that plague other projects/communities has worked very well for us for over a decade. :-))
18:09:07 <alternateved> But not for the money, just for the fun and writing practice
18:09:41 <alternateved> (Yeah, after all some people might consider Haskell a hurdle impossible to overcome)
18:09:44 <liskin> Awesome!
18:11:54 <Solid> liskin: where is the RSS feed at? I don't see it mentioned anywhere on the site
18:12:22 <liskin> Solid: <link type="application/atom+xml" rel="alternate" href="https://xmonad.org/feed.xml" title="xmonad - the tiling window manager that rocks" />
18:12:49 <liskin> might be worth mentioning it explicitly in posts.html though
18:14:20 <Solid> oh neat
18:16:03 <alternateved> You might also want to mention it as bullet in `What's new?` section
18:16:27 <alternateved> since it is pretty what RSS feed is about
18:16:40 <liskin> my RSS reader (liferea) does autodiscovery, so I just "add feed" with the webpage URL and it usually works
18:16:59 <liskin> (and I also have a browser extension, but most people won't)
18:17:11 Solid has not
18:17:29 <alternateved> Yeah, I don't really use RSS feed that much.
18:19:32 <Solid> it'll grow on you
18:20:13 <alternateved> Haha, maybe. I'm just starting.
18:21:16 <alternateved> Is there anything Haskell-wise worth tracking via RSS feed?
18:22:04 <geekosaur> new learning-Haskell resources, maybe
18:22:58 <geekosaur> oh, I misunderstood that
18:23:11 <geekosaur> there used to be planet haskell but I think it's dead
18:23:50 <geekosaur> and… well, it used to track a lot of esoterica rather than what I'd consider useful stuff
18:23:58 <geekosaur> especially in the context of xmonad
18:24:11 <Solid> seems to still be alive https://planet.haskell.org/
18:24:17 <Solid> (never heard of it though)
18:24:40 <geekosaur> I mean, I think most of us are out of here if someone introduces type level programming into xmonad :)
18:24:52 <Solid> :D
18:25:52 <geekosaur> (that said, I think there's some HList foo in -extras and possibly MultiToggle)
18:26:33 <Solid> yeah MultiToggle uses HLists
18:26:50 <Solid> so that ship seems to have sailed already
18:26:52 <Solid> time to go nuts :>
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20:18:04 liskin has almost a dozen rss feeds related to Haskell but doesn't read any of them :-/
20:19:56 <mc47> liskin, about the xmonad-docs thingy
20:20:02 <mc47> Solid as well
20:20:21 <mc47> are you suggesting to freeze xmonad-docs once we do the release, so it points to 0.17 and 0.16?
20:20:32 <mc47> Or am I misunderstanding something?
20:21:10 <mc47> (I'll be on mc47[m])
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20:21:19 <liskin> mc47[m]: what I'm suggesting is to bump to 0.17.0.999 immediately so that 0.17 in xmonad-docs keeps being the doc for 0.17
20:22:12 <liskin> (not necessarily three nines, that's a convention from elsewhere)
20:22:52 <geekosaur> 0.17.0.3.1.4.5.9…
20:23:04 <geekosaur> dropped a 1, whoops
20:23:26 <geekosaur> h/t Don Knuth of course
20:25:18 <mc47[m]> Wait, doesn't xmonad-docs containd the docs for the current git version?
20:25:20 <mc47[m]> Haha
20:25:37 <geekosaur> I thought so, and we get current release version from hackage
20:25:54 <geekosaur> certainly that's what I've been doing
20:26:32 <geekosaur> release versions in xmonad-docs dates from a period when early hackage was highly unstable and we wanted independent docs to be available
20:29:24 <mc47[m]> Yeah same
20:30:17 <liskin> xmonad-docs contains all versions since we had xmonad-docs, for the simple reason that URLs on Teh Internet shall not be broken
20:30:57 <liskin> and there are also symlinks so that one can meaningfully link to the latest version (like one can with hackage)
20:31:08 <liskin> but we haven't had xmonad-docs for long.
20:31:56 <liskin> (by all versions I mean all version numbers, not all git revisions)
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20:32:36 <liskin> it acts like an unversioned filesystem that we keep adding stuff to, if the filename is the same it's overwritten, if the filename is different it's added
20:32:56 <mc47[m]> Oh that's awesome
20:33:25 <mc47[m]> I suppose it's a good alternative
20:47:53 <FOSSHuman[m]> Hello everyone; I've been using stalonetray and I just added the new `ewmhFullscreen` function to my config (this issue also happened on the non-git version of XMonad and XMonad-Contrib); I added a parameter in stalonetray's config to lower it on start and I still experience the issue where stalonetray is above fullscreen windows, this happens occasionally though and sometimes stalonetray is below fullscreen windows, but most of the time
20:47:53 <FOSSHuman[m]> it is above fullscreen windows, any idea how to fix this??
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22:50:27 <jakefromstatefar> I've found that to be completely unreliable as well...
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